US Ambassador to Libya killed in attacks

[punked]

Then why did the White House also distance itself from the statement?

They didn't distance themselves Shady they said they didn't approve it. Which I would expect when embassy staff are trying to settle down a mob that is trying to kill them isn't something they would expect them to do. Shady get outside your right wing bubble you might learn something.

Right now you are acting as thick as Romney.

Edited September 12, 2012 by punked

[BubberMiley]

Then why did the White House also distance itself from the statement?

Because it wasn't approved beforehand.

I'm pretty certain that, unlike you, they know the difference between the words condemn and sorry.

[Shady]

Of course. Unless you want to incite violence like Pastor Jones does.

Complete nonsense. Luckily, in our society, we're allowed to mock anything we want, especially religion. And nobody has the right to committ violent acts in response. If you don't like our freedoms, perhaps you should move to another country. Same goes for the bunch of you, especially GH. Bill Maher insults, mocks, and disparages Christians on a weekly basis. His right to do that is a good thing. That right doesn't change depending on the person or the religion in question. Once again, if you don't like that, move somewhere else.

[Shady]

Because it wasn't approved beforehand.

Once again, you're completely wrong, as usual. They distanced themselves, because, quote, "the Cairo embassy’s statement does not reflect the view of the U.S. government." unquote. Nice try.

[punked]

Once again, you're completely wrong, as usual. They distanced themselves, because, quote, "the Cairo embassy’s statement does not reflect the view of the U.S. government." unquote. Nice try.

I have no idea how you can pretend reality doesn't exist while quoting things from reality. Your quote proves our point not yours.

[Shady]

I'm pretty certain that, unlike you, they know the difference between the words condemn and sorry.

I feel bad constantly kicking in your teeth, but it's the only way you'll ever learn.

Obama administration disavows Cairo 'apology'

Politico

I have no idea how you can pretend reality doesn't exist while quoting things from reality. Your quote proves our point not yours.

"The statement by Embassy Cairo was not cleared by Washington and does not reflect the views of the United States government," an administration official told POLITICO

[punked]

I feel bad constantly kicking in your teeth, but it's the only way you'll ever learn.

"The statement by Embassy Cairo was not cleared by Washington and does not reflect the views of the United States government," an administration official told POLITICO

They don't reflect the views of the White-house. Again the people at the embassy PUT OUT A STATEMENT ON THEIR OWN during a time when they are trying to diffuse a very intense situation where people could end up or did end up dead. No one blames them for that but THAT IS NOT HOW WHITE-HOUSE policy or statements are made.

What don't you understand Shady?

[BubberMiley]

I feel bad constantly kicking in your teeth, but it's the only way you'll ever learn.

Your teeth were kicked in long ago when you couldn't explain how condemning someone else's behaviour is an apology. I invite you to do so, but I know you can't.

Speaking of which, have you figured out what random sampling means yet?

Edited September 12, 2012 by BubberMiley

[Shady]

Your teeth were kicked in long ago when you couldn't explain how condemning someone else's behaviour is an apology. Speaking of which, have you figured out what random sampling means yet?

Read the link.

[bud]

so this basile guy is not an israeli businessman. he's a coptic egyptian who promotes islamophobia. here he is with pastor terry jones: http://www.guardianexpressla.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/MOREEES_513399752.jpg

here is a close-up of him: http://38.121.76.242/memoadmin/media//version4_s320096163456.jpg

here is more on the crew of the movie who were deceived:

The entire 80-member cast and crew of the film have released a statement saying they were misled. Via CNN:

The entire cast and crew are extremely upset and feel taken advantage of by the producer. We are 100% not behind this film and were grossly misled about its intent and purpose. We are shocked by the drastic re-writes of the script and lies that were told to all involved. We are deeply saddened by the tragedies that have occurred.

[punked]

Read the link.

Are you this detached from reality in real life?

[JerrySeinfeld]

Not true. The embarrassment of an apology from the embassy and the Obama administration needed to be criticized. So should Obamas disastrous foreign policy. It's Jimmy Carter all over again. Instead of replacing the shah with the mullahs, he's given us the Muslim brotherhood instead.

That's completely correct. Isn't it fun being attacked on all sides by liberals, Shady?

Liberals need to stick their head in the sand about the consequences of the post american Carter-esque dreamworld they're trying to create by peeing on the GOP. Reality hurts.

[JerrySeinfeld]

Every action has a reaction, legalities notwithstanding.

So the USA should ban religiously offensive movies?

If not, what;'s your point.

Edited September 12, 2012 by JerrySeinfeld

[bud]

i'm curious if any of the media is reporting this: http://imgur.com/a/tlCyI

[Shady]

That's completely correct. Isn't it fun being attacked on all sides by liberals, Shady?

Liberals need to stick their head in the sand about the consequences of the post american Carter-esque dreamworld they're trying to create by peeing on the GOP. Reality hurts.

Good point. It's funny how the media helps them out. Today, it was all about Romney's response, and whether it was appropriate, instead of actually focusing on Obama's foreign policy, or even the statement released by the Cairo embassy. It's Romney, Romney, Romney! Even though he had nothing to do with the current Egypt or Lybia policy.

Anyone else notice the dueling press conferences today? Romney spoke and then took question from the press. Obama just spoke and took no questions at all.

[bud]

So the USA should ban religiously offensive movies?

If not, what;'s your point.

austria, france and other european countries have laws against holocaust denial. people have gone to prison for writing books.

laws against holocaust denial

personally, i think any law against free speech is stupid. what do you guys think?

[Shady]

So the USA should ban religiously offensive movies?

Apparently. I wonder if that includes Bill Maher's Religulous. I bet you that would cause an awful lot of violence if shown in the Middle East as well.

[punked]

Good point. It's funny how the media helps them out. Today, it was all about Romney's response, and whether it was appropriate, instead of actually focusing on Obama's foreign policy, or even the statement released by the Cairo embassy. It's Romney, Romney, Romney! Even though he had nothing to do with the current Egypt or Lybia policy.

Anyone else notice the dueling press conferences today? Romney spoke and then took question from the press. Obama just spoke and took no questions at all.

Just so you know who is wrong.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j4fiqbCAmnlQDtX84k4NgjFGCu2A?docId=7bef9ab9585d4d7b87f7b8e171a9645a

[BubberMiley]

Read the link.

I did. If the White House doesn't agree and does not condemn the inciters of violence, that's their prerogative, but it doesn't mean that it was an apology.

Just to be clear, who do you think said "sorry" when?

[eyeball]

Libya was not attacked by the USA... they actually prevented (along with several other countries) the wholesale slaughter of Libyans.

I assumed we were talking about us vs them in a more regional and even global context. The fact the outrage is spreading to Tunisia and Egypt underscores how this event really has little to do with Libya and more to do with the longer complex chains of actions and reactions preceding this event. Given the historical, religious, geopolitical and above all else economic contexts that everything about the region around Libya is steeped in it's no wonder.

Edited September 13, 2012 by eyeball

[JerrySeinfeld]

Just so you know who is wrong.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j4fiqbCAmnlQDtX84k4NgjFGCu2A?docId=7bef9ab9585d4d7b87f7b8e171a9645a

Ah yes, the infamous "unnamed Romney advisor" of Associated Press and Reuters fame. :lol:

Romney is in the right here - nobody should be talking about the provocation. It steers the debate in the wrong direction.

As a free nation, people are free to say what they want. Period. It's the FIRST amendment.

Nobody in the government - Obama's government - should be scolding anybody in their own country about proper speech codes. It reeks of 1984 or Nazi Germany or, well, Obama's white house.

Romney is correct - condemn the attacks outright. And it took his leadership to drag Obama's reluctant absolution into the limelight.

The middle east is a mess. Syria is in flames. Iran is on the verge of a nuclear bomb and threatening Israel. The Obama Netenyahu relationship is more than strained, the muslim brother hood is in power in Egypt and US embassies are literally burning to the ground.

1979 anyone?

This guy is an incompetent boob.

[GostHacked]

Ah yes, the infamous "unnamed Romney advisor" of Associated Press and Reuters fame. :lol:

Romney is in the right here - nobody should be talking about the provocation. It steers the debate in the wrong direction.

Bullshit, the provocation is what drove it in this direction in the first place.

[Shady]

Ah yes, the infamous "unnamed Romney advisor" of Associated Press and Reuters fame. :lol:

Romney is in the right here - nobody should be talking about the provocation. It steers the debate in the wrong direction.

As a free nation, people are free to say what they want. Period. It's the FIRST amendment.

Exactly. It's interesting though, how the media never had much of a problem with John Kerry criticizing Bush in '04 on a day when 87 soldiers were killed in Iraq. Funny how the same standard doesn't seem to apply to Democrats.

Kerry Attacks Bush on Handling of Iraq

Later, addressing a crowd at a picnic in Racine, W.Va., Kerry devoted almost his entire 27-minute address to a critique of Bush. On a day when seven U.S. servicemen were killed in a suicide bombing attack in Iraq

Washington Post

John Kerry saw 7 dead Americans and didn't even wait till the bodies were cold before exploiting the death for his own personal gain. Eh punked?

[JerrySeinfeld]

Bullshit, the provocation is what drove it in this direction in the first place.

Wow. This statement truly betrays how out of touch you are.

Thousands of women worldwide in rape crisis centres suffer this exact same accusation on a daily basis, which is why so many are afraid to come forward: it's their fault.

Your statement is sickening.

[GostHacked]

Wow. This statement truly betrays how out of touch you are.

I keep hearing that and as days go by things just seem to reinforce what I already know.

Thousands of women worldwide in rape crisis centres suffer this exact same accusation on a daily basis, which is why so many are afraid to come forward: it's their fault.

I took a page out of Ryan Paul's handbook.

Your statement is sickening.

Thank you.