guyser Posted September 12, 2012 Report Posted September 12, 2012 US invasion repulsed=victory T'was a joke.... Quote
The_Squid Posted September 12, 2012 Report Posted September 12, 2012 That's what allies do! Good thing Germany wasn't an ally with us before WWII, eh? People like you would have goosestepped right alongside because we were "allies". It is absolutely stupid to side with an ally when you know they are wrong and it is going to cost the lives of Canadians... Canadians should die because Americans want a war that, it turns out, was complete folly, a waste of lives and money, just as predicted. Anyway, what retaliation from the US are you talking about???? Is this another "mis-interpretation" you got from reading a poorly translated arabic? Like when you claimed, "Bush said God wanted him to make war!" CITE! Harper didn't want economical retaliation.... http://www.macleans.ca/columnists/article.jsp?content=20070129_139786_139786 Harper stood in the House of Commons in January 2003, to remind MPs that as early as the previous October, "I noted that there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein operates programs to produce weapons of mass destruction. Experience confirms this. British, Canadian and American intelligence leaves no doubt on the matter."Therefore, Canada must help depose Saddam Hussein. Failure to do so, Harper said, "is not fitting with the greatness of our history or with our standing as a nation." Later in March, the Bloc Québécois provoked a Commons vote on a motion "that this House call upon the government not to participate in the military intervention" in Iraq. As fate would have it, the vote came on March 20. The 50 MPs who voted nay -- who did not want Canada to stay out of Iraq -- included almost every Alliance MP present, including Stephen Harper. Later that day the U.S. and the United Kingdom finally began their bombing campaign against Baghdad. Six days later, Harper told the Commons: "We should be there with our allies when it counts against Saddam Hussein." Two days after that, he published a letter in the Wall Street Journal. "Jean Chrétien has left Canada outside this multilateral coalition of nations," he wrote. "This is a serious mistake." Months later, Harper was still furious. He told this magazine in August 2003: "Canada remains alienated from its allies, shut out of the reconstruction process to some degree, unable to influence events. There is no upside to the position Canada took." I belabour these points because, as soon as the Iraq adventure went sour, Harper put as much distance as he could between himself and his erstwhile allies, Bush, Tony Blair and Australia's John Howard. Say what you will about their wisdom; at least they stuck with their policy after it became unpopular. Harper cut and ran. Quote
BubberMiley Posted September 12, 2012 Report Posted September 12, 2012 .... and then his administration giving out an initial statement (after the killing of the Ambassador to Libya) that offers practically an apology for free expression ( which implies the killing was justified!) You really don't have the foggiest clue what you're talking about, do you? Cite what the administration said and how it was "practically an apology" or admit that you broke God's law about bearing false witness. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
cybercoma Posted September 12, 2012 Report Posted September 12, 2012 Does anyone remember the group Baha Men? This thread now reminds me of them. Look them up if you don't know who they are. Quote
TheNewTeddy Posted September 13, 2012 Report Posted September 13, 2012 Was this even mentioned in CBC or CTV? No and I think I know why. Harper will be awarded the World Statesman of the Year award by a prominent New York foundation.The award is given out annually by the Appeal of Conscience Foundation, founded by Rabbi Arthur Schneier in 1965. I've been alive for a number of those years; since 1965; and this is the first I hear about this "Foundation" Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
jbg Posted September 13, 2012 Report Posted September 13, 2012 okay ..let's swap but you have to keep bieber and celine dion or the deal is off!... I'm good with that, as long as we get Gordon Lightfoot and Neil Young in the process. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
madmax Posted September 13, 2012 Report Posted September 13, 2012 However, this award only confirmed what I've stated before! That's the big difference. Nah, you've been around here a long time. I am sure you have been right before. That said, I rolled my eyes when Obama won the Noble Peace Prize. Still can't figure out what he did to receive that. Quote
madmax Posted September 13, 2012 Report Posted September 13, 2012 I'm good with that, as long as we get Gordon Lightfoot and Neil Young in the process. No deal... Canadian Icons.... Besides... Leonard Skinnard rollin in the grave.. wouldn't want to start a civil war... Quote
jbg Posted September 13, 2012 Report Posted September 13, 2012 No deal... Canadian Icons.... Besides... Leonard Skinnard rollin in the grave.. wouldn't want to start a civil war... But if Harper unites us as one country, we both keep Celine Dion et. al. as well as the icons. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Manheimer Posted September 13, 2012 Report Posted September 13, 2012 well worth the read. I found www.mapleleafweb.com very informative as I have been researching a lot lately on practical matters such as you talk about… Best regards! Quote
guyser Posted September 13, 2012 Report Posted September 13, 2012 No and I think I know why. Yes it was. Betsy has an agenda and could have easily seen it was there. Quote
guyser Posted September 13, 2012 Report Posted September 13, 2012 we both keep Celine Dion . Deal! Means we cut her in half which isnt all bad I guess. Quote
jacee Posted September 13, 2012 Report Posted September 13, 2012 (edited) Mean while christians were told they could not protest the iranian speakers at carlton U. Nobody can stop you from protesting legally. Edited September 13, 2012 by jacee Quote
jacee Posted September 13, 2012 Report Posted September 13, 2012 Maybe Harper is going to try to win Outremont. Ah! Now it becomes clear! Suck up to everyone but the francophones. He's not exactly an all 'inclusive' kinda guy is he? A divisive leader is a stupid leader. Quote
jacee Posted September 13, 2012 Report Posted September 13, 2012 That's what allies do! Follow another blindly into a corporate profiteer war, killing millions of innocent civilians and thousands of soldiers ... for oil and uranium profits? You do know Bush's Texas oil buddies are reaping the profits? Quote
jacee Posted September 13, 2012 Report Posted September 13, 2012 But if Harper unites us as one country, we both keep Celine Dion et. al. as well as the icons. EEWWWWWW! Quote
madmax Posted September 14, 2012 Report Posted September 14, 2012 But if Harper unites us as one country, we both keep Celine Dion et. al. as well as the icons. JBG this ones for you. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/canada-party-offers-viable-candidate-u-presidential-race-204828868.html Enjoy Quote
PIK Posted September 14, 2012 Report Posted September 14, 2012 Nobody can stop you from protesting legally. Well it happens. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
wyly Posted September 14, 2012 Report Posted September 14, 2012 No deal... Canadian Icons.... Besides... Leonard Skinnard rollin in the grave.. wouldn't want to start a civil war... but gordie has reached his expiry date and neil is well past his past his best years...whereas beiber will be around to torment and embarrass us for decades... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
bleeding heart Posted September 16, 2012 Report Posted September 16, 2012 Chretien won it too. So did the CEOs of Citibank and IBM I'm starting to think it ain't that special.... Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
PIK Posted September 17, 2012 Report Posted September 17, 2012 Follow another blindly into a corporate profiteer war, killing millions of innocent civilians and thousands of soldiers ... for oil and uranium profits? You do know Bush's Texas oil buddies are reaping the profits? Show us where the states are making money on Iraqi oil. How much is being shipped out of iraq and how much profits are they making . And tell me who is bush's texas oil buddies that you say are reaping all the profits.? Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
guyser Posted September 17, 2012 Report Posted September 17, 2012 How much is being shipped out of iraq and how much profits are they making . 2.3 M barrels a day. $6.9 B in income. And tell me who is bush's texas oil buddies that you say are reaping all the profits.? Halliburton and Baker Hughes. Quote
Tilter Posted September 17, 2012 Report Posted September 17, 2012 Deal! Means we cut her in half which isnt all bad I guess. We get the bottom half Quote
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