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cybercoma Grand Master

cybercoma

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Given all of the allegations and problems with the electoral process that has been going around, I'm curious to see if politically engaged people, like those on this forum, still trust the electoral process.

Anti-Am Community Regular

Anti-Am

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Canada's electoral process is still one of the best in the world.. maybe top 10-15. I would like to see an end to robocalls and more social media being used. I say get rid of election expense limits since they aren't followed anyway and they are given a light tap on the wrist when caught. Other than that sure I trust Canada's electoral process. What I don't trust are Canadians. Apathetic, cowards who do not vote.

Topaz Grand Master

Topaz

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Unfortunately, C-38 Budget Bill is taking money away from Election Canada and not sure yet if they will be able to do their job but then again, perhaps that what the Alliance/Tories want.

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Unfortunately, C-38 Budget Bill is taking money away from Election Canada and not sure yet if they will be able to do their job but then again, perhaps that what the Alliance/Tories want.

Elections Canada is a waste of money anyway. Takes them years to investigate and then the only punishment are small fines. Why do we need them?

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Fletch 27 Mentor

Fletch 27

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Soooo, by your rational, too make it 100% FLAWLESS... Should we incect 1 or 2 Billion dollars into them... Or do you "Maybe" think that there could quite possibly be some waste there??? Hmmmm

Yes, More money for them it is!!!!!!!!!!

Can you please post the link you found on where the Elections Canada Cuts are? I cant find them..

And, I find it interesting that Mark Kelly and that "connect" show is still on. It was supposed to be last aired on June 1st? Hmm, Maybe the CBC found some waste and can now allow him to proceed?? Interesting indeed how much waste a company can find when the purse strings get shaved....

Thanks

Unfortunately, C-38 Budget Bill is taking money away from Election Canada and not sure yet if they will be able to do their job but then again, perhaps that what the Alliance/Tories want.

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kolak Apprentice

kolak

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I'd say the biggest risk to Canadian elections (and government) is becoming more like the American system with two camps just cursing and spitting on each other day in and day out.

It might be just me, but I've recently seen a small but growing movement that is becoming more radical in their approach to politics. Examples include calling Stephen Harper a fascist/Nazi, referring to Canada as a totalitarian regime, etc. I just hope it doesn't spread as I don't want to see ridiculous election campaigns as in the USA.

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-TSS- Grand Master

-TSS-

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As long as the first-past-the -post system is being used with single-memeber constituencies, or ridings as you call them, the system is open to manipulation and corruption. Do the people in Canada trust the commission and its impartiality when the boundaries of those ridings are drawn and are they redrawn often enough to correspond the changes in population?

MiddleClassCentrist Mentor

MiddleClassCentrist

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I don't.

But more because of corporate lobbyists/wealthy elite who fund bogus news articles and studies to suggestively slander anything that isn't pro-corporation and anti anything beneficial to regular people.

People vote with those lies in mind.

I just want a government that actually governs for the people... regardless of ideology.

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Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.

dre Grand Master

dre

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Canada's electoral process is still one of the best in the world.. maybe top 10-15. I would like to see an end to robocalls and more social media being used. I say get rid of election expense limits since they aren't followed anyway and they are given a light tap on the wrist when caught. Other than that sure I trust Canada's electoral process. What I don't trust are Canadians. Apathetic, cowards who do not vote.

Getting rid of expense limits is a REALLY bad idea. We shoudl enforce them more vigorously, and stop special interests from donating completely.

I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger

kolak Apprentice

kolak

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I don't.

But more because of corporate lobbyists/wealthy elite who fund bogus news articles and studies to suggestively slander anything that isn't pro-corporation and anti anything beneficial to regular people.

People vote with those lies in mind.

I just want a government that actually governs for the people... regardless of ideology.

Yes and no, I know a lot of people that always vote Conservative, that always vote Liberal, or always vote NDP (with a couple who have gotten into the habit of voting Green because they don't want anyone else to get their vote). It doesn't matter what the media runs, these people are stuck in stone (like the lifetime Republicans vs Democrats but no were near as severe).

Topaz Grand Master

Topaz

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Elections Canada is a waste of money anyway. Takes them years to investigate and then the only punishment are small fines. Why do we need them?

ok using your logic, why do we need the federal government?

kolak Apprentice

kolak

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ok using your logic, why do we need the federal government?

Because anarchy is so much better... oh wait...

Topaz Grand Master

Topaz

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Soooo, by your rational, too make it 100% FLAWLESS... Should we incect 1 or 2 Billion dollars into them... Or do you "Maybe" think that there could quite possibly be some waste there??? Hmmmm

Yes, More money for them it is!!!!!!!!!!

Can you please post the link you found on where the Elections Canada Cuts are? I cant find them..

And, I find it interesting that Mark Kelly and that "connect" show is still on. It was supposed to be last aired on June 1st? Hmm, Maybe the CBC found some waste and can now allow him to proceed?? Interesting indeed how much waste a company can find when the purse strings get shaved....

Thanks

Sorry, I can't link it because I heard it in the House when they started debate on the Bill.

Fletch 27 Mentor

Fletch 27

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Should be available by now.. Can you post it? Thanks again Sir..

Sorry, I can't link it because I heard it in the House when they started debate on the Bill.

MiddleClassCentrist Mentor

MiddleClassCentrist

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Should be available by now.. Can you post it? Thanks again Sir..

Another hilarious comment.

Fletch holds other posters to standards that could never be met by Fletch themself.

Typical.

Edited by MiddleClassCentrist

Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.

Fletch 27 Mentor

Fletch 27

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Ohh, I backed mine up! So I take that's a "no" from you? Its ok, we are used to it..

Another hilarious comment.

Fletch holds other posters to standards that could never be met by Fletch themself.

Typical.

eyeball Grand Master

eyeball

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I think it's funny (sad...) how our little poll is shaping up, anyone noticing a pattern?

I think it was fairly predictable.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

MiddleClassCentrist Mentor

MiddleClassCentrist

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What I find interesting is how it stacks up to the exact same question asked in an online poll recently.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/inside-politics-blog/2012/06/power-politics-ballot-box-question-81.html

I think it just proves that this board is full of propaganda mouthpieces...

Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.

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