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while natanyahu, who leads a country with an illegal nuclear weapons program tries to distract the world with a nuclear weapons program that doesn't exist, the illegal jewish settlements continue to grow at a fast pace and the jewish settlers continue provoke.

According to B'Tselem, which uploaded the footage to YouTube, a large group of settlers, some masked and armed, approached the village from the nearby settlement of Yitzhar and began throwing rocks and starting fires. After a group of Palestinians gathered and threw rocks in return at the settlers, Israeli police and soldiers arrived on the scene. One of the settlers is seen crouching while aiming and then firing his pistol at the group of Palestinians. Another settler is seen firing an assault rifle. "The video footage raises grave suspicions that the soldiers present did not act to prevent the settlers from throwing stones and firing live ammunition at the Palestinians," said B'Tselem. "The soldiers did not try to remove the settlers and in fact are seen standing by settlers while they are shooting and stone throwing."

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I think the world should start taking a blind eye to both Israelis and Palestinians until they both start to grow up and act like civil human beings instead of babies fighting over a sandbox. That region isn't even worth our time. I'm tired of reading about this problem in the news and everywhere else because parts of each group has hateful, vengeful narratives against the other.

Bud, you're part of the problem, not part of the solution. Grow up.

"All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain

Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.

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I think the world should start taking a blind eye to both Israelis and Palestinians until they both start to grow up and act like civil human beings instead of babies fighting over a sandbox. That region isn't even worth our time. I'm tired of reading about this problem in the news and everywhere else because parts of each group has hateful, vengeful narratives against the other.

Bud, you're part of the problem, not part of the solution. Grow up.

Well said.

I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

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I think the world should start taking a blind eye to both Israelis and Palestinians until they both start to grow up and act like civil human beings instead of babies fighting over a sandbox. That region isn't even worth our time. I'm tired of reading about this problem in the news and everywhere else because parts of each group has hateful, vengeful narratives against the other.

Bud, you're part of the problem, not part of the solution. Grow up.

i like to know why you think i'm part of the problem.

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i like to know why you think i'm part of the problem.

Giving the conflagration oxygen, which in this case is a spotlight, keeps it burning.

I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

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I think the world should start taking a blind eye to both Israelis and Palestinians until they both start to grow up and act like civil human beings instead of babies fighting over a sandbox. That region isn't even worth our time. I'm tired of reading about this problem in the news and everywhere else because parts of each group has hateful, vengeful narratives against the other.

Yeah it really is the asshole of the planet.

I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger

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Giving the conflagration oxygen, which in this case is a spotlight, keeps it burning.

why shouldn't the treatment of palestinians be given a spotlight? were those who gave a spotlight on the treatment of blacks in apartheid south africa part of the problem?

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why shouldn't the treatment of palestinians be given a spotlight? were those who gave a spotlight on the treatment of blacks in apartheid south africa part of the problem?

No I suppose not, leaving the region to it's own devices is probably what ultimately helped solve it.

I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

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i like to know why you think i'm part of the problem.

Because you always seem to blame & criticize the other "side" without doing the same for your own "side". Bud is to Palestinians as Shady is to Republicans.

"All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain

Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.

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why shouldn't the treatment of palestinians be given a spotlight? were those who gave a spotlight on the treatment of blacks in apartheid south africa part of the problem?

The news has to be reported, yes.

But yours is the typical narrative, where each side sees themselves as the "victim" and the other side as the evil monster. Plenty of evil monsters on either side.

"All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain

Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.

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No I suppose not, leaving the region to it's own devices is probably what ultimately helped solve it.

i would disagree. it was the movement and the empathy of the people around the world that ultimately put pressure on our governments that eventually ended the support for the apartheid government. the same thing is happening against the zionist ideology. it's not a matter of if it will happen, but a matter of when.

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Because you always seem to blame & criticize the other "side" without doing the same for your own "side". Bud is to Palestinians as Shady is to Republicans.

i'm not offended by that comparison, because you are either not paying attention to what i have been saying or you're trying to defend and cover your earlier outburst.

all i have ever defended was justice and human rights. that's the only side i try to defend. criticism of israel does not have to be followed by criticism of palestinians to try to make myself look unbiased.

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all i have ever defended was justice and human rights. that's the only side i try to defend. criticism of israel does not have to be followed by criticism of palestinians to try to make myself look unbiased.

But you shouldn't have to try to make yourself look unbiased, if you value peace over blame, and you defend "justice and human rights", shouldn't that be your bias?

"All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain

Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.

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Palestine shall be free...

No doubt people there will be one day.

I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

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But you shouldn't have to try to make yourself look unbiased, if you value peace over blame, and you defend "justice and human rights", shouldn't that be your bias?

that is my bias. i was responding to your comment about not showing enough criticism of the palestinian side or as you call it, my side.

i simply don't see this as a 50/50 situation. i see most of what is happening as a symptom of israel's treatment of the palestinians.

i don't need to sit here and bring up palestinian militants' rocket attacks every time, because everyone already knows those are wrong. i have never seen anyone here defend their actions. however, not only the few israeli apologists here on this board but also our governments continuously try to justify israel's continuous breach of international law and fail to hold israel accountable.

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Oh c'mon you can finish the chant. You know...from the river to the sea. From the top...

No, I don't know and I probably don't care either.

I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

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.... however, not only the few israeli apologists here on this board but also our governments continuously try to justify israel's continuous breach of international law and fail to hold israel accountable.

Hard to do that with any credibility given Canada's own domestic and international track record. Israel has actually been attacked on a regular basis.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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and more of the same tactic used by jewish settlers:

An Israeli settler shot and wounded a Palestinian man on Saturday in a clash that began when a group of settlers set fire to fields belonging to a Palestinian village in the occupied West Bank, officials said.

Residents said about 25 settlers, some of them carrying guns, set fire to wheat fields in the village of Orif, which is near the northern West Bank city of Nablus.

Some villagers came out to extinguish the fire and clashed with the settlers, said Nablus official Kassan Daglas. Israeli soldiers then came to the scene and broke up the clashes.

The Palestinian was shot in the stomach, medical officials said, and taken to the hospital.

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and more of the same tactic used by jewish settlers:

An Israeli settler shot and wounded a Palestinian man on Saturday in a clash that began when a group of settlers set fire to fields belonging to a Palestinian village in the occupied West Bank, officials said.

Residents said about 25 settlers, some of them carrying guns, set fire to wheat fields in the village of Orif, which is near the northern West Bank city of Nablus.

Some villagers came out to extinguish the fire and clashed with the settlers, said Nablus official Kassan Daglas. Israeli soldiers then came to the scene and broke up the clashes.

The Palestinian was shot in the stomach, medical officials said, and taken to the hospital.

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