TheNewTeddy Posted April 28, 2012 Report Posted April 28, 2012 From the "status box discussion" about these things. I think that Canada would work best as 4 countries, with all 4 western provinces as a single country. The_Squid says BC would never join such a country. Argus says that Ontario and Quebec should be split into 3 or 4 provinces each I agree somewhat. Here is my plan for Ontario: http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd408/TheNewTeddy/ontsplit.png And I'd be willing to settle for this: http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd408/TheNewTeddy/ontsplit2.png And this would be the Province of Vancouver Island, Regions by Population: http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd408/TheNewTeddy/vancouverisland.png Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
cybercoma Posted April 28, 2012 Report Posted April 28, 2012 I think at the very least, Northern Ontario would benefit by seceding from Southwestern Ontario. By having their own government, Northern Ontario would be better able to deal with its particular issues, since it seems like Queen's Park isn't the least bit interested. Quote
TheNewTeddy Posted April 28, 2012 Author Report Posted April 28, 2012 Where do you draw the border? South of Parry Sound? South of North Bay? South of Timmins? Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
Tilter Posted April 29, 2012 Report Posted April 29, 2012 Where do you draw the border? South of Parry Sound? South of North Bay? South of Timmins? About French River. The share of fortune that filters to the north gets smaller each year. Quote
capricorn Posted April 29, 2012 Report Posted April 29, 2012 I don't want no freekin breakup until Ontario get out of its financial mess. I'm entitled to my entitlements and if Ontario goes it alone I might lose some cash. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
TheNewTeddy Posted April 29, 2012 Author Report Posted April 29, 2012 If Ontario was it's own country, it would be in surplus this year. If Toronto was it's own country, we could reduce sales taxes to 0, and, still be in surplus, this year. That's how much we contribute to Canada in corporate and income taxes. In return they insult us. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
Newfoundlander Posted April 29, 2012 Report Posted April 29, 2012 In return they insult us. How? Quote
TheNewTeddy Posted April 29, 2012 Author Report Posted April 29, 2012 http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22toronto+sucks%22+-leafs&oq=%22toronto+sucks%22+-leafs&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_nf=1&gs_l=serp.3...23922.24481.0.25086.5.5.0.0.0.0.133.472.4j1.5.0.f1G5w4IBs-U "toronto sucks" -leafs About 76,400 results Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
waldo Posted April 29, 2012 Report Posted April 29, 2012 http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22toronto+sucks%22+-leafs&oq=%22toronto+sucks%22+-leafs&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_nf=1&gs_l=serp.3...23922.24481.0.25086.5.5.0.0.0.0.133.472.4j1.5.0.f1G5w4IBs-U "toronto sucks" -leafs About 76,400 results so... dissing your fav hockey team is enough to break up the country! Just how old are you? Quote
TheNewTeddy Posted April 29, 2012 Author Report Posted April 29, 2012 "-leafs" takes out all search results with that word in it. I purposely disincluded it because even I think the leafs suck, and I don't even follow sports. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
waldo Posted April 29, 2012 Report Posted April 29, 2012 "-leafs" takes out all search results with that word in it. oh... right. Sorry, I immediately associated Leafs and Toronto Sucks. In any case, let's try again... dissing your fav city is enough to break up the country! Quote
TheNewTeddy Posted April 29, 2012 Author Report Posted April 29, 2012 It goes beyond "dissing" People honestly think that Toronto somehow gets billions upon billions from confederation when the opposite is in fact true. I say that Toronto, and/or Ontario should separate, just for a year, to show people the reality of the numbers. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
WWWTT Posted April 29, 2012 Report Posted April 29, 2012 http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22toronto+sucks%22+-leafs&oq=%22toronto+sucks%22+-leafs&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_nf=1&gs_l=serp.3...23922.24481.0.25086.5.5.0.0.0.0.133.472.4j1.5.0.f1G5w4IBs-U "toronto sucks" -leafs About 76,400 results Actually the leafs are one of the most successful sports teams in history! They have made billions of dollars! Its funny how die hard capitalists become communists in a freekin blink of the eye when it comes to sports! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Topaz Posted April 29, 2012 Report Posted April 29, 2012 The NAU, which people in the US and Canadians don't want, well, it seems they are changing it abit but I still don't trust the Canadians and Americans behind this, which would be the leader of the country. Here's Q&A's of what could be for North America and like it or not it includes ALL of NA not just changes within Canada. http://www.unitednorthamerica.org/faq.htm Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 29, 2012 Report Posted April 29, 2012 .... Here's Q&A's of what could be for North America and like it or not it includes ALL of NA not just changes within Canada. Not going to happen....just a bunch of Canadians trying another way to bitch and moan about your government, regionalism, and paranoia. Canada is for Canadians. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
-TSS- Posted April 29, 2012 Report Posted April 29, 2012 I guess these conversations about the break-up of Canada must be very popular in your country especially when most people realize it will never happen in real life but toying with the idea and drawing imaginary borders must be fun. Quote
Tilter Posted April 30, 2012 Report Posted April 30, 2012 I guess these conversations about the break-up of Canada must be very popular in your country especially when most people realize it will never happen in real life but toying with the idea and drawing imaginary borders must be fun. "Toying" being the key word here. Quote
Tilter Posted April 30, 2012 Report Posted April 30, 2012 If Ontario was it's own country, it would be in surplus this year. . That's how much we contribute to Canada in corporate and income taxes. In return they insult us. I disagree about that completely---- Toronto no longer has Miller, the mayor that taxed the townspeople on everything from real estate fees to Car Registrations and if, even after all that extra money from that will be operating at a deficit. Toronto is actually a huge tax sinkhole---- no matter how much the people are taxed it will never be enuf. Quote
TheNewTeddy Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Posted April 30, 2012 I disagree about that completely---- Toronto no longer has Miller, the mayor that taxed the townspeople on everything from real estate fees to Car Registrations and if, even after all that extra money from that will be operating at a deficit. Toronto is actually a huge tax sinkhole---- no matter how much the people are taxed it will never be enuf. All those tall bank towers pay corporate taxes. Their workers pay income taxes. Ontario and especially Canada (which charges higher rates than Ontario) benefit from this. The City of Toronto levies no income or corporate taxes. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
Tilter Posted April 30, 2012 Report Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) All those tall bank towers pay corporate taxes. Their workers pay income taxes. Ontario and especially Canada (which charges higher rates than Ontario) benefit from this. The City of Toronto levies no income or corporate taxes. YET Edited April 30, 2012 by Tilter Quote
guyser Posted April 30, 2012 Report Posted April 30, 2012 I disagree about that completely---- You shouldn't. Toronto is actually a huge tax sinkhole---- If by sinkhole you mean cash cow....then all good. Ontario, sends $80+B to Ottawa, gets back $59B . You're welcomne Canada ! Quote
Fletch 27 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Posted April 30, 2012 As long as My Canada doesnt include Toronto, Im good with ANY re-structuring plan. Toronto is the thorn in Ontario's side and keeps the "same old, same old" in power provincialy. Get Rid of that armpit and lets move on! Quote
waldo Posted April 30, 2012 Report Posted April 30, 2012 I guess these conversations about the break-up of Canada must be very popular in your country especially when most people realize it will never happen in real life but toying with the idea and drawing imaginary borders must be fun. no, not really... usually it's just a small dedicated, 'fringe of the fringe' element that's always hot to talk about western alienation/perceived disparate taxation/"unfair" equalization payments/perceived Quebec favouritism/blah, blah, blah. On the other hand, occasionally, an unthinking neophyte will start up a nonsense thread like this one. Quote
guyser Posted April 30, 2012 Report Posted April 30, 2012 Toronto is the thorn in Ontario's side and keeps the "same old, same old" in power provincialy. When you pay the bills, you call the shots. Assuming you live in Ontario, you really want to live where there isn't any money? (If TO left) Quote
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