eyeball Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 Like Red China? Not long. My advice to you is that you pay attention to that fellow waving the gun. Ignore @ your peril. So even the US would attack us for not enabling China. Phenomenal. These little Freudian slips are such wonderful little windows into the minds of the warhawks. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
DogOnPorch Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 "Gee I wonder why China needs such a large military. Must be to attack Canada" Conservative posters around here. In other news. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/india-tests-nuclear-capable-missile-that-can-reach-china/article2407238/ Scenario: It is the year 2031 and China has just set-up a 'research station' on top of a huge natural gas deposit in Canada's former high arctic. Comrade PM Punked today wished his new overlords "good luck" with their research and hopes one day to be allowed to purchase some of the resulting natural gas if China portions out any surpluses. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 So even the US would attack us for not enabling China. Phenomenal. These little Freudian slips are such wonderful little windows into the minds of the warhawks. America would invade us in a heart-beat if we "changed sides". Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
punked Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 Yah yah yah we heard it all with the Russians. They are more armed then we think, they are communists so our numbers don't reflect theirs blah blah blah. Fact was when the dust cleared people that kept saying "our numbers are off they have a more advanced military then we think" were right about one thing. Our numbers were off they had less then our intelligence estimated and people like you were WAAAYYYY OFF. Fool me one. Quote
punked Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) Scenario: It is the year 2031 and China has just set-up a 'research station' on top of a huge natural gas deposit in Canada's former high arctic. Comrade PM Punked today wished his new overlords "good luck" with their research and hopes one day to be allowed to purchase some of the resulting natural gas if China portions out any surpluses. I can make stuff up to. Scenario: China sees Canada as a peaceful nation and rewards with Trillions of dollars for no reason. See when we play make believe we can do whatever we want. Edited April 19, 2012 by punked Quote
DogOnPorch Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 Yah yah yah we heard it all with the Russians. They are more armed then we think, they are communists so our numbers don't reflect theirs blah blah blah. Fact was when the dust cleared people that kept saying "our numbers are off they have a more advanced military then we think" were right about one thing. Our numbers were off they had less then our intelligence estimated and people like you were WAAAYYYY OFF. Fool me one. Ummm...if you push forward on the stick, the airplane goes down, not up. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 I can make stuff up to. Scenario: China sees Canada as a peaceful nation and rewards with Trillions of dollars for no reason. See when we play make believe we can do whatever we want. Why are they giving us trillions of dollars? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest Derek L Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 "Gee I wonder why China needs such a large military. Must be to attack Canada" Conservative posters around here. In other news. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/india-tests-nuclear-capable-missile-that-can-reach-china/article2407238/ That's hardly news... Quote
punked Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 Ummm...if you push forward on the stick, the airplane goes down, not up. If that is all you got to support your argument then I rest my case. You making up things in your head and want Canada to spend money because their communists hiding under your bed. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 That's hardly news... Thank goodness we have punked to calm our minds re: Communist China's global ambitions. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
punked Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 That's hardly news... Don't worry now that India has a missile that deliver a nuke to China maybe another cold war but no more hot war. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 If that is all you got to support your argument then I rest my case. You making up things in your head and want Canada to spend money because their communists hiding under your bed. ...and no, you don't wind-up the rubber band to make aircraft 'go'. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
punked Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 Thank goodness we have punked to calm our minds re: Communist China's global ambitions. They have global ambitions and don't need an army for them. They are buying up Canada and African resources and I have yet to hear you say boo about that. Quote
punked Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) ...and no, you don't wind-up the rubber band to make aircraft 'go'. Yah I get it. Logic and reason are beyond you, we just need the biggest and newest toys, TAX THE POOR to buy them. Edited April 19, 2012 by punked Quote
Guest Derek L Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) They have global ambitions and don't need an army for them. They are buying up Canada and African resources and I have yet to hear you say boo about that. Assume you mean the Chinese………Then why are they drastically increasing the expeditionary nature of their military? Edited April 19, 2012 by Derek L Quote
Guest Derek L Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 Don't worry now that India has a missile that deliver a nuke to China maybe another cold war but no more hot war. The Chinese are currently damming one of the largest fresh water supplies to India………NATO and the Warsaw Pact never went that far…… Quote
DogOnPorch Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 They have global ambitions and don't need an army for them. They are buying up Canada and African resources and I have yet to hear you say boo about that. As suspected, you can't read. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=20677&view=findpost&p=788034 Yah I get it. Logic and reason are beyond you, we just need the biggest and newest toys, TAX THE POOR to buy them. I'm all for trying it your way by disbanding the military, pissing off the Americans and cozying-up to Communist China. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Wild Bill Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 my comment wasn't intended to disparage - most certainly not. I don't agree with the how/where/why of everywhere you've been deployed, but... you need to be paid well, extremely well, when you are there. But, for me, that's also tied into an entirely different discussion in terms of the bigger picture prioritization of spending versus roles for Canada. Waldo, you've just proven what I thought I was the only one on this board who knew - you DO have a heart! You are a man unfairly maligned... Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
punked Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 As suspected, you can't read. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=20677&view=findpost&p=788034 I'm all for trying it your way by disbanding the military, pissing off the Americans and cozying-up to Communist China. Give me a break. Now the Americans are ransoming us and we have to buy this plane? Some friendship we have. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 Give me a break. Now the Americans are ransoming us and we have to buy this plane? Some friendship we have. NORAD is ransom in your view? Interesting. But then, folks like you think that the USA should pick-up the entire tab for Canada's defence like they owe us for something...for being Canadians, I guess. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
punked Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 NORAD is ransom in your view? Interesting. But then, folks like you think that the USA should pick-up the entire tab for Canada's defence like they owe us for something...for being Canadians, I guess. So now NORAD required we buy these planes? You are making a lot of claims that have no backing you know. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 So now NORAD required we buy these planes? You are making a lot of claims that have no backing you know. Both NORAD and NATO require Canada to pony-up some gear. I'm shocked you think it is for free. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest Derek L Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 So now NORAD required we buy these planes? You are making a lot of claims that have no backing you know. NORAD requires us to contribute to the continental defence of North America......so yeah. Quote
Wilber Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 They have global ambitions and don't need an army for them. They are buying up Canada and African resources and I have yet to hear you say boo about that. Read your history, commercial expansion leads to a military capability to protect your interests. The Chinese know this very well from their own experience during the concession days. All the 19th century colonial military intervention in China was a result of Western countries protecting and advancing their commercial interests. They had no interest in actually conquering and occupying the place. Rightly or wrongly, Americans have often been criticized for this. Why would you expect China to be different? Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
DogOnPorch Posted April 19, 2012 Report Posted April 19, 2012 NORAD requires us to contribute to the continental defence of North America......so yeah. Shows the mind set going on. He thought it was free of charge. Why those nice Americans... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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