Israel says it will attack Iran in a month or so

[Guest Peeves]

there is a reason why israel is disliked in the middle east and it's not because of racism. the reason is understandable and legitimate. it's because israel will not allow a palestinian state to form while continuing to annex (steal) more palestinian land with their illegal settlements. nobody likes a bully.

Bull puckey, from a pedantic pedagogue of the school of Joseph Goebbels. He, Goebbels, made sure Jews there were disliked in Germany too.

Most of that Goebbels school have by their own words,lost any credibility with any with a modicum of non bias.

You would deny a legitimate state of Israel that has been attacked by its Arab neighbors the same rights that any other country has to protect its borders and its Jewish/Arab citizens.

You might be exaggerating just a bit for effect when you blame Israel for no Palestinian state given the fact that one was offered in 1947.

The UN established a Special Commission on Palestine (UNSCOP) to devise a solution. Delegates from 11 nations* went to the area and found what had long been apparent: The conflicting national aspirations of Jews and Arabs could not be reconciled.

When they returned, the delegates of seven nations—Canada, Czechoslovakia, Guatemala, The Netherlands, Peru, Sweden and Uruguay—recommended the establishment of two separate states, Jewish and Arab, to be joined by economic union, with Jerusalem an internationalized enclave. Three nations—India, Iran and Yugoslavia—recommended a unitary state with Arab and Jewish provinces. Australia abstained.

The Jews of Palestine were not satisfied with the small territory allotted to them by the Commission, nor were they happy that Jerusalem was severed from the Jewish State; nevertheless, they welcomed the compromise. The Arabs rejected UNSCOP’s recommendations.

The ad hoc committee of the UN General Assembly rejected the Arab demand for a unitary Arab state. The majority recommendation for partition was viewed as a more just solution and subsequently adopted by a vote of 33–13 with 10 abstentions on November 29, 1947. 1

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths3/MFpartition.html

Since then, Arabs might have accepted the terms from negotiated peace accords to have their own state, but have declined.

Since Arabs and their countries, and Persians and their country refuse to accept Israels right to exist, since Hamas, Fatah and Hizbollah have mandates outlining the requirement of Israel's demise, one might rather blame any reason for not having a state of Palestine where it belongs, on their, (Israels), declared enemies.

Edited April 24, 2012 by Peeves

[bush_cheney2004]

how do you respond to criticism of israel? simple; post something bad about something or someone else.

Something bad? But everyone just loves Palestinians and Palestine. They have done/can do no wrong. Must be Israel's fault, eh? Don't be a party poop....the 40th anniversary of the Munich Olympics is coming up. Yay Palestinians! Gold medal winner in two events....kidnapping and murder.

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[bud]

Something bad? But everyone just loves Palestinians and Palestine. They have done/can do no wrong. Must be Israel's fault, eh? Don't be a party poop....the 40th anniversary of the Munich Olympics is coming up. Yay Palestinians! Gold medal winner in two events....kidnapping and murder.

you are unable to accept and acknowledge israel's actions which generate the reactions.

[bud]

Bull puckey, from a pedantic pedagogue of the school of Joseph Goebbels. He, Goebbels, made sure Jews there were disliked in Germany too.

Most of that Goebbels school have by their own words,lost any credibility with any with a modicum of non bias.

you're babbling.

you were supposed to comeback to me when you were able to be honest, truthful and objective instead of trying to push an agenda in any means possible.

You would deny a legitimate state of Israel that has been attacked by its Arab neighbors the same rights that any other country has to protect its borders and its Jewish/Arab citizens.

land theft and not allowing a palestinian state to be formed is not self defense. it doesn't matter how many times you repeat it.

You might be exaggerating just a bit for effect when you blame Israel for no Palestinian state given the fact that one was offered in 1947.

the creation of israel was an injustice that is now has to be accepted. injustice because a foreign country decided to allocate land to people from other parts of the world, without consultation and acceptance by the people who have been living there for centuries. but we must forgive this injustice in order to live in peace and accept what majority of the world, including canada accepts, which is land based on the 1967 green line. this is something most of the current palestinian leaders (either officially or unofficially) agree on but every single israeli government cannot bring itself to agree on. all we've seen is more land theft and more excuses.

this is the truth. can you start from there?

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[bush_cheney2004]

you are unable to accept and acknowledge israel's actions which generate the reactions.

Yeah...me and the rest of the nations at the 1972 Summer Olympics. We just can't wrap our heads around why it is A-OK to kidnap and murder Olympic athletes. I guess we're not as enlightened as you, so understanding and tolerant of holy reactions that kill Israelis, Americans, Canadians, and other Palestinians.

Yay Palestine....Killer of Kennedys!

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[bush_cheney2004]

the creation of israel was an injustice that is now has to be accepted. injustice because a foreign country decided to allocate land to people from other parts of the world, without consultation and acceptance by the people who have been living there for centuries.

Gee...that sounds just like Canada...let's start shooting rockets at Toronto!

but we must forgive this injustice in order to live in peace and accept what majority of the world, including canada accepts, which is land based on the 1967 green line.

Where is the "green line" for First Nations in Canada?

[DogOnPorch]

fud: injustice because a foreign country decided to allocate land to people from other parts of the world

Without the Western Allies, the region would still be in the hands of the Ottoman Turks. But what are tens of thousands of Allied dead to you? Nothing.

[bleeding heart]

...much more popular than skinheads from Canada.

[bleeding heart]

Israel isn't the problem in the middle east. Iran is. That's why other than Syria, every other middle eastern country hates Iran, and wants to see their nuclear capacity disabled.

No....most of the middle eastern tyrants hate Iran, and want to see their nuclear capacity disabled. (You learned this from Wikileaks, by the way, just in case you were wondering from where you got this info!).

However, most of the people in the Middle East consider the US and Israel to be the major threats, not Iran.

Just so we know about whom we're talking here...and with whose views you are personally aligned.

[Army Guy]

Eyeball.

Oh look, it's another drunken uncle jeering in the stands.

Now that shit was funney.

[Army Guy]

there is a reason why israel is disliked in the middle east and it's not because of racism. the reason is understandable and legitimate. it's because israel will not allow a palestinian state to form while continuing to annex (steal) more palestinian land with their illegal settlements. nobody likes a bully.

You've yet aswered the question, how do you explain the wars prior to 1967, when Israel did not occupy Palestine. was it racism then, was it because they were bullies....did they have any illigal settlements, inquiring minds want to know.

[bud]

You've yet aswered the question, how do you explain the wars prior to 1967, when Israel did not occupy Palestine. was it racism then, was it because they were bullies....did they have any illigal settlements, inquiring minds want to know.

oh maybe because the arabs could not accept that a foreign country (britain) decided to create a country in the middle of their land without the palestinian consent and acceptance. oh and there is the whole, 500+ palestinian villages being destroyed by jewish militant groups and israeli army and over 2/3 palestinians being driven out of what is now israel.

Edited April 27, 2012 by bud

[Guest Peeves]

You've yet aswered the question, how do you explain the wars prior to 1967, when Israel did not occupy Palestine. was it racism then, was it because they were bullies....did they have any illigal settlements, inquiring minds want to know.

For a generation individuals and countries leaders and pundits of all stripes have been blaming Islamist violence, bombings and the like on Israel's existence, (or alternatively Americas expansionism.)

This past year or so, the Arab wold has torn itself apart over the brutal regimes in power.

thousands of Arabs have been killed by..Arabs.

When an Arab attacks another Arab it can no longer be construed by the media, the EU, as a result of there being a Jewish homeland. That no longer washes.

I ask,

Is Israel ..the USA...guilty of that Arab spring..those insurrections ? The shooting of Arab civilians by Arab authorities?

It has come to pass that even Arabs have recognized the corruption and oppression by their leaders, nothing to do with Israel.

Tail wags dog.

Yet, we still have more words day after day about Israel's behavior, and few of the violence in Arabia..Arabs, shot in the streets by the thousands.

Leave Israel alone and there will be no military response.

Kick a hornet's nest and you might well expect a response.

Agree to Israel's existence and borders and there will be peace and a Palestine.

[DogOnPorch]

oh maybe because the arabs could not accept that a foreign country (britain) decided to create a country in the middle of their land without the palestinian consent and acceptance. oh and there is the whole, 500+ palestinian villages being destroyed by jewish militant groups and israeli army and over 2/3 palestinians being driven out of what is now israel.

Stop pretending the Ottoman Empire didn't exist since the Middle Ages.

[bush_cheney2004]

oh maybe because the arabs could not accept that a foreign country (britain) decided to create a country in the middle of their land without the palestinian consent and acceptance.

Do you mean Israel...or Canada! Let's ask the PalestIndians.

[WWWTT]

Where is the "green line" for First Nations in Canada?

Good question!

Where's the green line for first nations in the US?

How about former African slaves?

WWWTT

[bush_cheney2004]

Good question!

Where's the green line for first nations in the US?

How about former African slaves?

Wherever we say it is...without any whining apologies. Try it some time.

[dre]

You've yet aswered the question, how do you explain the wars prior to 1967, when Israel did not occupy Palestine. was it racism then, was it because they were bullies....did they have any illigal settlements, inquiring minds want to know.

As far as the conflict prior to the armistice the Arabs just didnt want foreigners setting up shop in the middle east.

After the armistice, they were competing for resources. When Israels NWC was completed it significantly stemmed the flow of water to the Hashemites... So the Arabs responded with a similar water diversion project of their own. Israel bombed it. From that point on there was nearly constant skirmishes along the border which lead to the war in 1997.

Scumbags killing each other! What can ya do?

[WWWTT]

Wherever we say it is...

Who is "we"?

WWWTT

[DogOnPorch]

Who is "we"?

WWWTT

Les Etats-Unis d'Amérique.

[WWWTT]

Les Etats-Unis d'Amérique.

So in other words the ones who killed off their opponents to the best of their ability so that their opponents were no longer around to provide opposition to "we".

Thanks for making that clear

WWWTT

[DogOnPorch]

So in other words the ones who killed off their opponents to the best of their ability so that their opponents were no longer around to provide opposition to "we".

Thanks for making that clear

WWWTT

The Indians didn't fight back in America? The Indians didn't take sides in America?

[bush_cheney2004]

The Indians didn't fight back in America? The Indians didn't take sides in America?

They sure didn't like General Custer!

[DogOnPorch]

They sure didn't like General Custer!

We get the same nobel savage crap around these parts of Weatern Canada. Like they were a big happy brotherhood until we arrived on the scene to ruin everything. Whenever I bring-up the fact that most tribes here were terrified of the Haida for their brutal & bloody slave-taking raids, I get blank stares of PC disbelief.

[Guest Peeves]

We get the same nobel savage crap around these parts of Weatern Canada. Like they were a big happy brotherhood until we arrived on the scene to ruin everything. Whenever I bring-up the fact that most tribes here were terrified of the Haida for their brutal & bloody slave-taking raids, I get blank stares of PC disbelief.

As I have read, natives waged war, took slaves, tortured victims and ate human parts. Sounds much like the rest of society. They made very little advances over thousands of years, no written language, never invented the wheel or much else. The introduction of the horse made them more advanced and productive.

They as first peoples in North America, sure weren't anything much in the way of superior social behavior or typical of a civilized people to emulate or look up to, though I admire some of their customs.

Accepted gays and the mentally disabled. Took care of their elders. Tribal loyalty.