scribblet Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 Gosh looky here, whoda thunk it http://www.ottawacitizen.com/business/Vikileaks30%2Blinked%2BHouse%2BCommons%2Baddress/6165497/story.html OTTAWA — An IP address connected to what is known as the Vikileaks30 Twitter account originates within the House of Commons. In a bid to determine the origin of the account, which details personal information about Public Safety Minister Vic Toews, The Citizen undertook an investigation on Thursday. An email was sent to the writer of the Vikileaks30 Twitter account, containing a link to a website. The website was monitored by The Citizen and only the author of Vikileaks30 had the address of the website. About 15 minutes after sending the email, Vikileaks30 opened the link and visited the page, leaving behind an IP address that belongs to the House of Commons. .... OTTAWA — An IP address connected to what is known as the Vikileaks30 Twitter account originates within the House of Commons. In a bid to determine the origin of the account, which details personal information about Public Safety Minister Vic Toews, The Citizen undertook an investigation on Thursday. An email was sent to the writer of the Vikileaks30 Twitter account, containing a link to a website. The website was monitored by The Citizen and only the author of Vikileaks30 had the address of the website. About 15 minutes after sending the email, Vikileaks30 opened the link and visited the page, leaving behind an IP address that belongs to the House of Commons. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
olpfan1 Posted February 17, 2012 Author Report Posted February 17, 2012 wow... how much do you want to bet this was Toews idea to try to gain sympathy? Quote
capricorn Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 wow... how much do you want to bet this was Toews idea to try to gain sympathy? I must say, you're very creative in your thinking. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
olpfan1 Posted February 17, 2012 Author Report Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) I must say, you're very creative in your thinking. I think like this because CPC has done it before, Clement had his secretary tell the US to put Canada next to China & Russia on the worlds worst offenders list at violating copyrights and bootlegging etc, just to SHAME Canadians into agreeing with their New copyright bill that the US practically wrote for us Was that creative? yes, I didn't make that up! This behaviour is common from this government and most governments Edited February 17, 2012 by olpfan1 Quote
eyeball Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 I must say, you're very creative in your thinking. I recall when our RCMP busted a kid with something they assumed was a date-rape drug and the next thing you know there were reports of rape gangs roaming the mean beaches of Tofino in our local paper and on the national news. The RCMP were quickly called on their story and in a fairly shamelessly offhand manner admitted to exaggerating the case to highlight a crusade du jour. I can only imagine where we'll be if, or should I say when, these sorts of cops or other overzealous agents of the state get their hands on the sort of power the CPC are talking about giving it. Their universe is filled with galvanizing events and unless you're a card carrying member or some other obvious sycophant, you're a suspect. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Topaz Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 It was reported last night, that Vic was the second topic in the world on Tweeter!! Embarrassing for the Tories and anyone could be responsible for the tweeter, even a backbencher on the Tory side. Quote
Shakeyhands Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 It was reported last night, that Vic was the second topic in the world on Tweeter!! Embarrassing for the Tories and anyone could be responsible for the tweeter, even a backbencher on the Tory side. Yet the Ottawa Citizen traced the ip back to someone's computer on the Hill who has had pro NDP leanings in the past. Frankly, it doesn't matter to me who did it, it sure proves a bit of the old hypocrisy though. Article Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
scribblet Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 It was reported last night, that Vic was the second topic in the world on Tweeter!! Embarrassing for the Tories and anyone could be responsible for the tweeter, even a backbencher on the Tory side. Oh sure, and with NDP leanings Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
olpfan1 Posted February 17, 2012 Author Report Posted February 17, 2012 vigilantee justice is swift and painful Now Toews asked the Speaker for sn investigation rofl what a weak sack of wet flour the minister of having sex with babysitters is Quote
BubberMiley Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 Oh sure, and with NDP leanings I guess you would like to see legislation where you could actually find out for sure who tweeted it. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Guest Manny Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 Why should there be an investigation if all the information is already publicly available? Was something done illegally? Isn't this exactly the kind of thing this legislation would allow, collecting personal information about someone without their consent, in this case not from wire-tapping or what have you but from the internet. Quote
Shakeyhands Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 Oh sure, and with NDP leanings The facts are what the facts are... purportedly. Who do you think it was? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
scribblet Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) Well, according to the CBC there could be an investigation coming up. ETA link http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/tories-accuse-ndp-of-dirty-sleazy-twitter-attack-on-e-snooping-champion/article2342111/?utm_medium=Feeds%3A%20RSS%2FAtom&utm_source=Politics&utm_content=2342111 It shouldn't be too hard for their IT dept. to track an IP address (if the Ottawa Citizen will give it up) Edited February 17, 2012 by scribblet Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
capricorn Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 Why should there be an investigation if all the information is already publicly available? There are certain times when publicly available information should not be accessed and distributed. And what can be more public than what is found through the Internet. Here's one such example. Fourteen Vancouver police officers, ranking as high as inspector, are at the centre of a pornography e-mailing investigation involving images and video sent over eight months last year.--- The probe involved e-mails exchanged between Jan. 1 to Sept. 15, 2011. “(The images) are ranging from what you might find on the newspaper or Sports Illustrated to what might be an image that you’d have to search for on the Internet when you search for pornography,” Chu said. “None of the images that we looked at are illegal. Had we encountered images of that nature, a criminal investigation would be launched. This is an internal investigation.” --- He said the department would be installing software to track and flag inappropriate e-mails in future. Sim also confirmed the e-mails were stumbled upon after police checked an unrelated investigation where information was leaked to news media. http://www.lfpress.com/news/canada/2012/02/16/19391511.html I don't know of too many people who would approve of public servants surfing and sharing pornography sites during working hours at government workplaces. Is the House of Commons a government workplace? To me, it is. It matters not to me who's behind it and I'm indifferent to Toew's resulting hurt feelings. What matters most to me with this and similar cases is that taxpayer funded workplaces are being used in this manner. That's misuse and should not be tolerated. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Moonlight Graham Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 Vikileaks has been a great read. Internet vengeance is so hilarious. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Moonlight Graham Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) Gosh looky here, whoda thunk it http://www.ottawacitizen.com/business/Vikileaks30%2Blinked%2BHouse%2BCommons%2Baddress/6165497/story.html OTTAWA — An IP address connected to what is known as the Vikileaks30 Twitter account originates within the House of Commons. In a bid to determine the origin of the account, which details personal information about Public Safety Minister Vic Toews, The Citizen undertook an investigation on Thursday. An email was sent to the writer of the Vikileaks30 Twitter account, containing a link to a website. The website was monitored by The Citizen and only the author of Vikileaks30 had the address of the website. About 15 minutes after sending the email, Vikileaks30 opened the link and visited the page, leaving behind an IP address that belongs to the House of Commons. That just proves we need more internet privacy, not less. To me, it's scary that any website/blog etc. (including this side) can very easily know your IP, the area of a city you're connecting from, what browser you're using, your screen resolution, what you searched to get to that site, and of course track all your usage of their site etc. etc. I had a blog once and used Google Analytics, and was shocked by the amount of info anyone can track about their users. Edited February 17, 2012 by Moonlight Graham Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Guest Manny Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 I don't know of too many people who would approve of public servants surfing and sharing pornography sites during working hours at government workplaces. Is the House of Commons a government workplace? To me, it is. It matters not to me who's behind it and I'm indifferent to Toew's resulting hurt feelings. What matters most to me with this and similar cases is that taxpayer funded workplaces are being used in this manner. That's misuse and should not be tolerated. I understand what you mean. So if there is an investigation, it might not be criminal, but the use of company time to "play" on the internet needs to curtailed. Come to think of it... Quote
GostHacked Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 Gosh looky here, whoda thunk it http://www.ottawacitizen.com/business/Vikileaks30%2Blinked%2BHouse%2BCommons%2Baddress/6165497/story.html OTTAWA — An IP address connected to what is known as the Vikileaks30 Twitter account originates within the House of Commons. In a bid to determine the origin of the account, which details personal information about Public Safety Minister Vic Toews, The Citizen undertook an investigation on Thursday. An email was sent to the writer of the Vikileaks30 Twitter account, containing a link to a website. The website was monitored by The Citizen and only the author of Vikileaks30 had the address of the website. About 15 minutes after sending the email, Vikileaks30 opened the link and visited the page, leaving behind an IP address that belongs to the House of Commons. .... OTTAWA — An IP address connected to what is known as the Vikileaks30 Twitter account originates within the House of Commons. In a bid to determine the origin of the account, which details personal information about Public Safety Minister Vic Toews, The Citizen undertook an investigation on Thursday. An email was sent to the writer of the Vikileaks30 Twitter account, containing a link to a website. The website was monitored by The Citizen and only the author of Vikileaks30 had the address of the website. About 15 minutes after sending the email, Vikileaks30 opened the link and visited the page, leaving behind an IP address that belongs to the House of Commons. It may not have even come from the House of Commons. It's possible that the computer that was used was hacked from the outside. Quote
Shakeyhands Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 It may not have even come from the House of Commons. It's possible that the computer that was used was hacked from the outside. Wouldn't it be funny if it was Harpers... Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
BubberMiley Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) I don't know of too many people who would approve of public servants surfing and sharing pornography sites during working hours at government workplaces. I don't know of too many people who would approve of public servants ditching their wives and impregnating the babysitter. Just CPC-bots when it involves a "family values" CPC minister. Edited February 17, 2012 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
olpfan1 Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Posted February 18, 2012 There are certain times when publicly available information should not be accessed and distributed. And what can be more public than what is found through the Internet. Here's one such example. http://www.lfpress.com/news/canada/2012/02/16/19391511.html I don't know of too many people who would approve of public servants surfing and sharing pornography sites during working hours at government workplaces. Is the House of Commons a government workplace? To me, it is. It matters not to me who's behind it and I'm indifferent to Toew's resulting hurt feelings. What matters most to me with this and similar cases is that taxpayer funded workplaces are being used in this manner. That's misuse and should not be tolerated. what about the expenses toews has racked up? 9 million in 4 years do you care that the taxpayers paid for his food, travel, pleasure? Quote
olpfan1 Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) There is nothing to investigate here, nothing was illegally done this already proves the government WILL abuse the powers Edited February 18, 2012 by olpfan1 Quote
BubberMiley Posted February 18, 2012 Report Posted February 18, 2012 There is nothing to investigate here, nothing was illegally done this already proves the government WILL abuse the powers All true. And it's an excellent way to give the story some legs to make sure everyone knows how sleazy Toews is. Are these people really professional political strategists? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
capricorn Posted February 18, 2012 Report Posted February 18, 2012 what about the expenses toews has racked up? 9 million in 4 years What about it? There is an internal H of C process to capture infractions and hold MPs to account. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
olpfan1 Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Posted February 18, 2012 All true. And it's an excellent way to give the story some legs to make sure everyone knows how sleazy Toews is. Are these people really professional political strategists? Harper probably does not know what to do Quote
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