Guest Derek L Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/2011/10/19/18850681.html And good riddance……It truly has been ridiculous and an insult to hunters, sports shooters, farmers and ranchers……… While the order paper notice only hints at amendments to the Firearms Act, a source close to the file told QMI Agency the bill is expected to fully repeal the requirement to register long-guns. It will also re-write the Firearms Act to specify only restricted and prohibited firearms need to be registered. Now will it redefine what’s restricted and prohibited? Here’s hoping……. Quote
fellowtraveller Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 The millions of Canadians who never did register their weapons will greet this news with.... indifference. Quote The government should do something.
eyeball Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 And good riddance……It truly has been ridiculous and an insult to hunters, sports shooters, farmers and ranchers……… Oh well, it's not like Harper won't have all sorts of new ways soon to keep tabs on who you are and what you do. Now will it redefine what’s restricted and prohibited? Here’s hoping……. Be careful what you wish for. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Boges Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 The millions of Canadians who never did register their weapons will greet this news with.... indifference. I don't think so. I don't own a gun but I think this law is simple pandering to sensationalists. Legal gun-owners aren't the problem. It's illegal hand-gun owners that are the problem. Quote
Smallc Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 Be careful what you wish for. Why should he be careful? Some of the things considered restricted are absolutely ridiculous. Quote
eyeball Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 (edited) Why should he be careful? Some of the things considered restricted are absolutely ridiculous. What's really ridiculous is how the things that most anti-gun control people want the state to prohibit causes so much of the gun crime that gets them most excited. It's not as vicious a circle as much as a really stupid one. Edited October 20, 2011 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Smallc Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 (edited) You mean like how I'm in favour of legalizing marijuana and prostitution, as well as decriminalizing some other problem drugs? Edited October 20, 2011 by Smallc Quote
eyeball Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 You mean like how I'm in favour of legalizing marijuana and prostitution, as well as decriminalizing some other problem drugs? Sorry but I've heard all this get the state off the people's backs stuff before from small-c conservatives. Maybe you should come talk to us when YOU have 100% of all the power in this country. You don't seem to have anymore than anyone else when it comes to Harper's crew. I'm actually all for getting rid of the ridiculous gun registry too - now we can move past this charade and straight on to gun control like we should have in the first place. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Moonbox Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 You mean like how I'm in favour of legalizing marijuana and prostitution, Booya. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
fellowtraveller Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 I don't think so.I'm quite sure of it. Many, make that very many, other wise law abiding Canadians simply ignored the long gun registry, and they will greet the repeal of the registry legislation with the same response they met the introduction: they'll ignore it.It was an ongoing problem for regulators and cops:how do you enforce a law that is widely ignored by ordinary people? In this case, ignored by both ordinary peope and criminals. Quote The government should do something.
olp1fan Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 Glad the Long Gun registry is going to go Quote
Topaz Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 I don't think so. I don't own a gun but I think this law is simple pandering to sensationalists. Legal gun-owners aren't the problem. It's illegal hand-gun owners that are the problem. Was it a hand gun that killed the RCMP out west? Do hunters or farmer`s or anyone who have rifle, chose a hand kill to their spouse or some else. ALL guns are dangerous. Quote
Smallc Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 Was it a hand gun that killed the RCMP out west? Do hunters or farmer`s or anyone who have rifle, chose a hand kill to their spouse or some else. ALL guns are dangerous. And how does the registry prevent crime? Quote
Guest Derek L Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 Oh well, it's not like Harper won't have all sorts of new ways soon to keep tabs on who you are and what you do. Not if you have a Tin-foil hat... Quote
Guest Derek L Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 (edited) Why should he be careful? Some of the things considered restricted are absolutely ridiculous. Exactly………some guns were banned because they looked scary or have an “aggressive name”………Those that crafted the laws, know next to nothing related to the subject mater…. Edited October 20, 2011 by Derek L Quote
Smallc Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 Exactly. A semi auto that looks like an M16 isn't an M16, nor is a BB gun that looks like an AK47 (look to a recent news report for that). That said, I do agree with stringent licensing requirements as well as regulations regarding the size of clips that are allowed. I also agree with the regulations regarding handguns and automatic weapons, even if I don't agree with registration of them. Quote
Guest Derek L Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 Was it a hand gun that killed the RCMP out west? Do hunters or farmer`s or anyone who have rifle, chose a hand kill to their spouse or some else. ALL guns are dangerous. No a gun is a tool………It can be turned into a weapon by a person, much like a baseball bat, steak knife or a Toyota. And the Mayerthorpe tragedy was committed by a man with a rifle...... Quote
Smallc Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 No a gun is a tool………It can be turned into a weapon by a person, much like a baseball bat, steak knife or a Toyota. It is a very effective tool when it comes to killing though. Quote
Guest Derek L Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 It is a very effective tool when it comes to killing though. Like a car, depends on the human operating it.......I own various handguns, shotguns, bolt action, semi-auto and pump rifles…….I have for decades……I got a 10/22 when I was 8 years old……..my fifteen year old son, under my supervision, handles firearms……….never once have my firearms posed a threat to another person. Quote
guyser Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 Like a car, depends on the human operating it Bad analogy. A car is a horribly ineffective tool for killing. Quote
Guest Derek L Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 Bad analogy. A car is a horribly ineffective tool for killing. How many Canadian die each year in car related deaths as opposed to guns? Quote
guyser Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 How many Canadian die each year in car related deaths as opposed to guns? relevance ? Quote
Guest Derek L Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 relevance ? Bad analogy. A car is a horribly ineffective tool for killing. Quote
guyser Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 (edited) How many people have used a car to kill? Its a bad analogy as a car is horrible for trying to kill someone and a gun is a fast concise instrument. Edited October 20, 2011 by guyser Quote
RNG Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 How many people have used a car to kill? I'm a little too busy to google it right now, but many. If you include suicides, very meny. Quote The government can't give anything to anyone without having first taken it from someone else.
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