dre Posted November 8, 2011 Report Posted November 8, 2011 it would depend on the totality of collapse...if total first you eat the neighbours cats and dogs then you eat the neighbours... It would depend. I think urban areas would descend into chaos pretty quick. Most of the police, firefighters, etc would walk off the job to go and protect their families from the dead. Same goes for the folks that run the local power and water utilities. Within even a few hours you would have wide spread looting. Within a day or two youd lose water and power. Not as bad out in the sticks though. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
wyly Posted November 8, 2011 Report Posted November 8, 2011 It would depend. I think urban areas would descend into chaos pretty quick. Most of the police, firefighters, etc would walk off the job to go and protect their families from the dead. Same goes for the folks that run the local power and water utilities. Within even a few hours you would have wide spread looting. Within a day or two youd lose water and power. Not as bad out in the sticks though. no zombies required for this scenario...people in the sticks will be okay for a week or two then all those city dwellers are coming looking for food...i'd say the native communities with no road connections will have the best survival chances... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Boges Posted November 8, 2011 Author Report Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) Don't Read this comment if you plan on reading the comic. I just finished Trade paperback 11 and the group comes across some hunters that eat humans. But they don't just kill the humans they cut off limbs to keep the person fresh. When Rick and his group (most of which haven't been introduced yet) catch them they torture and kill them slowly. As sick as it might sound, it's a very satisfying part of the series. As for practical tactics in a Zombie Apocalypse: I live out in the burbs of Toronto. I would go as far away from the city as I could. A major city is totally dependent on daily imports. That stops you start running out of food in a week if not less. Especially with all these organic hipsters that think preservation tactics are bad for you. That many people in small space, it'd be chaos. If you could protect a rural farm like Herchel's farm it would be ideal (I know of one in Horse country). BUT the Walking Dead comics also highlight the problem of stayin at one spot. If zombies are randomly walking a loud noise like a gun shot will immediately attract them. They all follow each other and you get a herd like we saw in the season premiere. If a herd finds your farm you'd need a back up plan fast cuz you're fucked, they won't leave. Edited November 8, 2011 by Boges Quote
Boges Posted November 8, 2011 Author Report Posted November 8, 2011 I also think the ratio of Walkers:Survivors has to be considered. If the virus/disease is widespread and takes out say 3/4 or more of the population in the first week then in theory if you can stay alive there should be enough resources to go around for quite sometime.Zombies don't raid pantries, gun depots or gas stations. That's why the main characters in both 28 days and Walking dead had similar narratives. You're in a coma and people forget about you and you awaken when most of the bad stuff has already happened. A very unbelievable part of 28 Days Later was that even a months after the outbreak you didn't see many people dead or alive or infected in the streets of London. At least in the Walking Dead you knew a great deal of the walkers were centred in Atlanta because that's where they were told to go. Quote
wyly Posted November 8, 2011 Report Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) I just finished Trade paperback 11 and the group comes across some hunters that eat humans. But they don't just kill the humans they cut off limbs to keep the person fresh. right out of "quest for fire" 1981... Edited November 8, 2011 by wyly Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Boges Posted November 14, 2011 Author Report Posted November 14, 2011 (edited) So since they haven't found that girl I'm sure people will be moaning and complaining about how crappy that aspect of this story is. Me included, but in having this thread go on and on for so many episodes you can see how it's shaping the characters. They framed Darryl as this caring thug, conflicted with the memory of his brother. I like how Rick accused Shane of not making the tough choices but making the easy choices by always cutting their losses. Shane is all about survival and will do anything to survive but does that exhibit much humanity? What ultimately separates us from the Walkers afterall? I think Andrea shooting Darryl will be a turning point in her character. She'll probably get over the chip on her shoulder and start contributing to the group and not being such a bi-atch. As for the final scene, I've been waiting for it. This is how the whole Herchel farm thread ends, He's a nut job that thinks there will be a cure for the zombie disease so he keeps all his loved ones in a barn. For those that just want to see zombie fights, I'm pretty sure the next episode will have a lot of it. I also don't think they'll be at Herchel's farm very after next week. Will Maggie come withe Glenn and the rest though? Edited November 14, 2011 by Boges Quote
Black Dog Posted November 14, 2011 Report Posted November 14, 2011 If nothing else, I respect the tenacity you're showing trying to polish up this turd. Quote
Boges Posted November 14, 2011 Author Report Posted November 14, 2011 If nothing else, I respect the tenacity you're showing trying to polish up this turd. You can comment on Boardwalk Empires in this thread too if you like. I enjoy both programs. Quote
Black Dog Posted November 15, 2011 Report Posted November 15, 2011 You can comment on Boardwalk Empires in this thread too if you like. I enjoy both programs. I'm way behind on that. I've been catching up on Breaking Bad. Quote
Hydraboss Posted November 17, 2011 Report Posted November 17, 2011 What pisses me off is the producers have a great theme and story to work with, but they can't seem to get it together. This week's show was better (I'll give them that); and why?......frickin zombies. It's a damn zombie show. Yet it moves with the speed of a soap opera - miss three weeks and you'd still be able to pick up the storyline without missing much. Do something interesting for christ sakes! Is that so much to ask? Go to Ft Bennett or have the frickin horde attack the farm and KILL SOME PEOPLE! (and yes, I assume that is what will happen on this week's episode...finally) People are supposed to die, survivors are supposed to look for weapons and a safer place to stay. Not pregnancy tests and "I feel depressed" scenes. "If I sneak into Canadian Tire for supplies, will there be any 12 gauges and shells left, or just the pimple faced zombie kid that loads my shrubs?" That's the kind of reality I'm looking for...what happens to mankind when mankind starts eating mankind. It's supposed to be morbid and frantic and depressing and hopeless. Why would anyone try to concentrate on multiple character development on a show that is supposed to be post-apocalyptic; you know, where people die all the time? It's called "harsh reality" and that's why a lot of us watch the show in the first place. If I wanted the garbage that it is, I'd tune in to "How I Met Your Mother" or "Big Brother" or something. Quote "racist, intolerant, small-minded bigot" - AND APPARENTLY A SOCIALIST (2010) (2015)Economic Left/Right: 8.38 3.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.13 -1.23
Mr.Canada Posted November 19, 2011 Report Posted November 19, 2011 Boardwalk Empire is an excellent show. Steve Buscemi makes it imo. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Boges Posted November 28, 2011 Author Report Posted November 28, 2011 It's a damn zombie show. If every episode was a level of Dead Rising it'd get boring pretty fast. Like any show they want you to care about and/or hate the characters in there. Obviously the first half of this season had a story arc that came to a head on this last episode. The girl was in the barn the entire time! If I was Rick, Shane and Company I'd be making Herchel answer as to why he kept the fact he found a girl (likely in a similar tar pond) secret. It's hard to know how they'll stay true to the comic and make a new storyline going forward. They'll probably leave on their own accord at this point. And Maggie will likely go with them. Quote
Black Dog Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 Ha ha this show. "All of us who have lost countless friends and loved ones and witnessed unspeakable horrors are super surprised to find that the little girl who vanished into the zombie infested wastes days ago is now a zombie." Quote
Boges Posted November 28, 2011 Author Report Posted November 28, 2011 I think they were more upset by it than shocked. Oh and that Hershel put her in this barn instead of telling them about it. Quote
wyly Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 I'm way behind on that. I've been catching up on Breaking Bad. breaking bad is still the best of the bunch IMO... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
wyly Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 If every episode was a level of Dead Rising it'd get boring pretty fast. Like any show they want you to care about and/or hate the characters in there. Obviously the first half of this season had a story arc that came to a head on this last episode. The girl was in the barn the entire time! If I was Rick, Shane and Company I'd be making Herchel answer as to why he kept the fact he found a girl (likely in a similar tar pond) secret. It's hard to know how they'll stay true to the comic and make a new storyline going forward. They'll probably leave on their own accord at this point. And Maggie will likely go with them. the initial season was short and missed out on character development, presumably it's now been fleshed out and the plot can progress at a better pace... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Black Dog Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 breaking bad is still the best of the bunch IMO... You know, I heard a lot of things about how great BB was and as a result I surprised by how weak it actually is. It's entertaining, sure. Cranston's good. But overall? It's merely okay. Quote
Black Dog Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 the initial season was short and missed out on character development, presumably it's now been fleshed out and the plot can progress at a better pace... Ha ha! Have the characters actually developed a second dimension this season? Shane is still yelly. Lori's still naggy. Grimes is still Grimes. Dale is still a dumb old fart. Glenn got his leg over, I guess that's news. Quote
wyly Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 You know, I heard a lot of things about how great BB was and as a result I surprised by how weak it actually is. It's entertaining, sure. Cranston's good. But overall? It's merely okay. entertainment is what it's all about isn't it?... cranston's character evolution from dull mild mannered teacher to cold hard killer is excellent...i fast forward through parts with cranston's/wife and her inlaws way to slow/dull/whiny...my favorite character is saul goodman, that's the kind of lawyer i wish i had... my favorite series of recent years, Deadwood, followed by Rome and Dexter... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
olp1fan Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 You know, I heard a lot of things about how great BB was and as a result I surprised by how weak it actually is. It's entertaining, sure. Cranston's good. But overall? It's merely okay. If Breaking Bad is weak I wonder which shows you find to be strong I put Breaking Bad up there with The Wire and The Shield Quote
Boges Posted November 28, 2011 Author Report Posted November 28, 2011 Anyone have any thoughts on Hell on Wheels while we're at it. BTW WTF does "Glen got his Leg over" mean? Quote
olp1fan Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 Anyone have any thoughts on Hell on Wheels while we're at it. BTW WTF does "Glen got his Leg over" mean? Saw the first ep and was bored out of my mind Quote
Boges Posted November 28, 2011 Author Report Posted November 28, 2011 Saw the first ep and was bored out of my mind Yeah throat slitting, Injuns scalping and Fights to the death make me drowsy too. Quote
wyly Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 Anyone have any thoughts on Hell on Wheels while we're at it. I've seen two episodes it's grabbing my attention so far, a couple more like those and I'll be done...BTW WTF does "Glen got his Leg over" mean?just a guess but i think it means he boned maggie... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
olp1fan Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 Yeah throat slitting, Injuns scalping and Fights to the death make me drowsy too. the storyline was boring..the scalping took a whole second..throat slitting a whole second ..you're acting like it was action packed when there was mainly two action sequences Quote
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