bush_cheney2004 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) Apple co-founder and former CEO Steve Jobs has passed away from a long battle with pancreatic cancer at age 56. .....developing..... Edited October 6, 2011 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Bonam Posted October 6, 2011 Report Posted October 6, 2011 Wow, so fast. No idea he was in such bad shape. He definitely left quite the legacy and was one of the greatest CEOs of our time. On a lighter note: picture Quote
TimG Posted October 6, 2011 Report Posted October 6, 2011 The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long... Quote
Guest American Woman Posted October 6, 2011 Report Posted October 6, 2011 Wow. A real loss - and way too soon. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Posted October 6, 2011 The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long... True...Steve Wozniak is still going strong! I have an original Macintosh 512K around here somewhere...with the official Apple case. Totally geek in 1984...but now cool. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
BubberMiley Posted October 6, 2011 Report Posted October 6, 2011 He once said that dropping acid was "one of the two or three most important things" he ever did in his life. And that's from someone who did important things. RIP Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Smallc Posted October 6, 2011 Report Posted October 6, 2011 RIP. Lets hope that Apple can continue on without his inspiration and his ideas. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Posted October 6, 2011 I wonder if Bill Gates will attend any memorial service? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
August1991 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Posted October 6, 2011 (edited) Former Apple co-founder and CEO Steve Jobs has passed away from a long battle with pancreatic cancer at age 56.As we age, our cells in general change more slowly. Our metabolism is slower.The cells of our pancreas change rapidly always, and pancreatic cancer is among the most pernicious. To suffer cancerous malignant cells is a risk. It is a tragedy to suffer them at a young age, or to suffer them older when their metabolism is higher. Such is the risk of life itself. To live, we must accept the chance of death. ----- I have an old (2G) iPod Touch but I'm no Apple fanboy. I voted NDP once or twice years ago, but now I certainly don't. IMV, Jobs was more decent/human in his death than Layton. It is hard for me to imagine submitting to a public death. To me, death is a private affair. ---- The boomers are now dying. Jobs and Layton were born in 1950. How will the media measure their individual legacy? Is it better to die early - or later? I reckon that guys like Jobs, in the long term, will merit a greater record than guys like Layton. IOW, in the West, we will have more announcements of the sort and eventually, there will be so many that we won't care. Edited October 6, 2011 by August1991 Quote
Smallc Posted October 6, 2011 Report Posted October 6, 2011 IMV, Jobs was more decent/human in his death than Layton. And that view says a great deal about you. Quote
Shady Posted October 6, 2011 Report Posted October 6, 2011 IMV, Jobs was more decent/human in his death than Layton. Well, he certainly handled the end of his life with a lot more dignity and class than Jack Layton did. I lost a lot of respect for Layton the minute he decided to politicize his death in this last campaign letter to Canadians. Quote
Smallc Posted October 6, 2011 Report Posted October 6, 2011 Well, he certainly handled the end of his life with a lot more dignity and class than Jack Layton did. I lost a lot of respect for Layton the minute he decided to politicize his death in this last campaign letter to Canadians. Yes, because what you are doing is so classy . Jack Layton was a political figure and a very public man, and he died as he saw fit, because he knew he was going to die. Steve Jobs may or may not have known he was going to die, but if he did, he decided to do things differently. Don't pretend that you had any kind of respect for Jack Layton in life, and don't pretend that if he had done things differently you would have felt better about him. You didn't like him, and you continue to use his death and his choices surrounding it to attack him. Say what you want about Jack Layton, but you're certainly no better a man than he was. Quote
Smallc Posted October 6, 2011 Report Posted October 6, 2011 And in case you can't tell, I find the fact that people would use the death of one public figure to attack another utterly disgusting....and this isn't feigned outrage. Quote
Shady Posted October 6, 2011 Report Posted October 6, 2011 And in case you can't tell, I find the fact that people would use the death of one public figure to attack another utterly disgusting....and this isn't feigned outrage. Sorry, I was just commenting on August's assertion. Quote
BubberMiley Posted October 6, 2011 Report Posted October 6, 2011 (edited) Sorry, I was just commenting on August's assertion. Edited October 6, 2011 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Shady Posted October 6, 2011 Report Posted October 6, 2011 No, you were being an asshole. But that's okay. What would the Internet be without assholes? No, I was agreeing with August's assertion. I'm sorry that the truth about Layton hurts though. Unfortunately, the truth usually tends to do that. Quote
Smallc Posted October 6, 2011 Report Posted October 6, 2011 I'm no Jack Layton fan, but I don't need to find reasons to lash out at a dead man. Quote
Shady Posted October 6, 2011 Report Posted October 6, 2011 I'm no Jack Layton fan, but I don't need to find reasons to lash out at a dead man. I'm not lashing out at a dead man. But there's nothing wrong, and more importantly inaccurate about stating the fact that his last campaign letter to Canadians was a politicizing of his situation. And that I found very unbecoming. Quote
Smallc Posted October 6, 2011 Report Posted October 6, 2011 I certainly didn't see the letter that way. It was quite moving and what was contained in it all seemed to be genuine thoughts. August, with his post in this thread, has taken away form both Steve Jobs and Jack Layton. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Posted October 6, 2011 Jesus Christ...both men are dead and Jack Layton has his own thread...this one is for Steve Jobs. I like August's dying boomer angle, they seek to prolong death and aging forever despite certain odds against. The ads for erectile dysfunction medications are getting to be ridiculous...maybe you don't see these in Canada. Anyway, recall that Steve Jobs miraculously jumped into the front of the line for a liver transplant back in 2009. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
msj Posted October 6, 2011 Report Posted October 6, 2011 I think Jack and Steve were on top of the world prior to their unfortunate and early demises: Jack getting the federal NDP to their greatest electoral outcome, and Steve getting Apple to be one of the most valuable companies in the world. Great people are going to attract lots of attention so when they die there's going to be the annoyance of bloated and overexposed media coverage which then attracts the likes of August and Shady. Soon the din will die down until the next great person dies. Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Posted October 6, 2011 ...Great people are going to attract lots of attention so when they die there's going to be the annoyance of bloated and overexposed media coverage which then attracts the likes of August and Shady. OK...so that raises an interesting question: Do we prefer Jobs' fame and success over a longer life? Or is it better to play it safe and live to be an obscure and tiny obituary in the local paper, dead at age 85? I've already written mine! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
msj Posted October 6, 2011 Report Posted October 6, 2011 OK...so that raises an interesting question: Do we prefer Jobs' fame and success over a longer life? Or is it better to play it safe and live to be an obscure and tiny obituary in the local paper, dead at age 85? I've already written mine! Well, Kurt Cobain thought it was better to burn out than fade away; but, he was just taking Neil Young to the next level. I don't think people really get to choose - cancer kills people young and old, rich and poor. My wife wonders if Jobs wished he worked more on his deathbed given how little time he had between stepping down and his demise. Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Bonam Posted October 6, 2011 Report Posted October 6, 2011 OK...so that raises an interesting question: Do we prefer Jobs' fame and success over a longer life? Or is it better to play it safe and live to be an obscure and tiny obituary in the local paper, dead at age 85? I've already written mine! I don't think there's really a choice of that kind to be made. Many die young without achieving any kind of fame, and many of the famous live to a ripe old age, and the inverse is also true. It seems unlikely to me that Jobs' early death is a result of him working himself into the grave. In any case, people should aspire to realize their full potential in life. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Posted October 6, 2011 I don't think there's really a choice of that kind to be made. Many die young without achieving any kind of fame, and many of the famous live to a ripe old age, and the inverse is also true. It seems unlikely to me that Jobs' early death is a result of him working himself into the grave. True...Jobs' fate may have been sealed by genetics. But there is anecdotal evidence that high stress occupations take a greater toll on health compared to others. In any case, people should aspire to realize their full potential in life. The US Army ad campaign agrees...."Be All You Can Be"...while you're still alive! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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