MiddleClassCentrist Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 (edited) http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ontario-election/ontario-pc-leader-hudak-raises-spectre-of-liberal-ndp-coalition/article2187837/ The only reason he isn't winning is because of his own horrible campaign. He's been campaigning for official opposition this entire election. Pull out some more bogeymen, seal your defeat Tim. Edited October 2, 2011 by MiddleClassCentrist Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
capricorn Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ontario-election/ontario-pc-leader-hudak-raises-spectre-of-liberal-ndp-coalition/article2187837/ The only reason he isn't winning is because of his own horrible campaign. Nobody's won anything yet. Like you, I am unimpressed by his campaign. Pull out some more bogeymen, seal your defeat Tim. All three main parties have dredged up bogeymen. Once they've exhausted their talking points about their platforms the next phase is to scare voters away from their opponents. Nothing new here. “I am running to form a Liberal government — and only a Liberal government,” he wrote in an open letter to PC leader Tim Hudak. “There will be no coalition with either your party or the NDP.” http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/10/02/there-will-be-no-coalition-between-ontario-liberals-and-ndp-mcguinty/ As Hudak quipped in the debate: "With all due respect sir, nobody believes you any more". Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Oleg Bach Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 Nobody's won anything yet. Like you, I am unimpressed by his campaign. All three main parties have dredged up bogeymen. Once they've exhausted their talking points about their platforms the next phase is to scare voters away from their opponents. Nothing new here. http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/10/02/there-will-be-no-coalition-between-ontario-liberals-and-ndp-mcguinty/ As Hudak quipped in the debate: "With all due respect sir, nobody believes you any more". Hudak should act like a leader...even though he really has no substance - You would think with all the money they have they could have hired a better coach... Now McGinty - his brain has finally dried up - he looks empty...so I guess we will have to settle with no one - maybe the memory of Jack Layton can sustain us for a few years - nothing sader than a population ruled by a ghost...sure wish I could sit down with Hudak and explain to him what being a man is about - McGinty is a little girl - and that NDP thing..well she might be a man - Better to have a womb man in charge that men with out spheres. Quote
jbg Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 I watched a chunk of his "Town Hall". Hudak is not compelling. That's for sure. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
charter.rights Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 Hudak should act like a leader...even though he really has no substance - You would think with all the money they have they could have hired a better coach... Now McGinty - his brain has finally dried up - he looks empty...so I guess we will have to settle with no one - maybe the memory of Jack Layton can sustain us for a few years - nothing sader than a population ruled by a ghost...sure wish I could sit down with Hudak and explain to him what being a man is about - McGinty is a little girl - and that NDP thing..well she might be a man - Better to have a womb man in charge that men with out spheres. That may be difficult since his wife wears the pants in the family. She was also Mike Harris's executive assistant and director of issues. (I wonder if she was doing Harris too?). In any case Hutton is calling the shots, and taking direction from Mike Harris. Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
MiddleClassCentrist Posted October 3, 2011 Author Report Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) Nobody's won anything yet. What I mean is, Hudak should be owning this campaign and he's not. If he opened up this campaign by differentiating himself from other conservatives and talking about all of his plans rather than talking more about what McGuinty has done, he'd have walked to an easy victory. By getting endorsed by and hanging out with likeminded Conservatives, he shot himself in the foot IMO. Pretty much guaranteed a minority of one party or another because of those people, like myself, who believe true blue "group think" and ideological lap dogs are both a sure thing and a bad thing when we have one way of thinking in Ontario politics. Edited October 3, 2011 by MiddleClassCentrist Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
capricorn Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 (I wonder if she was doing Harris too?). Stay classy. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
capricorn Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 If he opened up this campaign by differentiating himself from other conservatives and talking about all of his plans rather than talking more about what McGuinty has done, he'd have walked to an easy victory. Can't argue with that MCC. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
charter.rights Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 Stay classy. Hey. It is a valid query. I mean she was nowhere in her career and suddenly she is advising the Premier of Ontario on political matters. She was instrumental in the killing of Dudley George since she was the one pushing for the police to move in. Harris went along. Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
Topaz Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 Ontario didn't like John Tory and they don't like Hudak and anyone who would get rid of any kind of jobs, doesn't need to be Premier. I think Mc Guinty still has enough support but I also think the NDP will get more votes and take second place. Quote
mentalfloss Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 Hudak criticizes ‘war on cars,' pledges to construct Niagara highway Cut taxes. Spend money on a highway we don't need while polluting the environment. Bad for the environment. Bad for the economy! MAKES COMPLETE SENSE DOESN'T IT? Quote
PIK Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 I watched a chunk of his "Town Hall". Hudak is not compelling. That's for sure. Mike Harris the guy that brought this province back from extintion. The guy that created real jobs and put ONT back on the map. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Oleg Bach Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 With all the resourses that conservatives have - all the experts - the highly educated ....and so on....You would assume they could have come up with someone more dynamic than Hudak. It just goes to show you that money is not real power and power can not be bought. This is the greatest non-election election that Ontario has ever had - there are no candidates...we will probably get a minority NDP government that will be taken over by the back room conservatives who control the money supply and the banks. Quote
capricorn Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 The OP title. Hudak brings up "coalition" in desperate attempt to scare electorate. Oh lookie. Liberal sources told the Star that even if the Tories win up to 10 more seats than the Grits, yet fall short of the majority threshold of 54, McGuinty would appeal to union leaders to “lean on” Horwath to back his party. http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/provincialelection/article/1063024--hudak-worried-mcguinty-and-horwath-will-reach-deal-to-govern?bn=1 Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
MiddleClassCentrist Posted October 3, 2011 Author Report Posted October 3, 2011 Mike Harris the guy that brought this province back from extintion. The guy that created real jobs and put ONT back on the map. You mean the guy who cut technological education in public school down very little funding? Technological education, that teaches innovation and hands on skills? REAL JOB SKILLS TRAINING? ... yep. Saviour indeed. Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
Boges Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 You mean the guy who cut technological education in public school down very little funding? Technological education, that teaches innovation and hands on skills? REAL JOB SKILLS TRAINING? ... yep. Saviour indeed. Doesn't the School Board do that? Quote
Boges Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 I would think a Coalition would be a real possibility. Say Hudak wins a minority what would stop McLiar from forming a coalition with the NDP? It's happened before. Quote
capricorn Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 I would think a Coalition would be a real possibility. Say Hudak wins a minority what would stop McLiar from forming a coalition with the NDP? It's happened before. See my post above Boges. McGuinty says no coalition. I believe anonymous Liberal sources more than I believe Dalton. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Boges Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 See my post above Boges. McGuinty says no coalition. I believe anonymous Liberal sources more than I believe Dalton. And McGuinty's word is about as good as what? Bre-Ex Stock? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 I would think a Coalition would be a real possibility. Say Hudak wins a minority what would stop McLiar from forming a coalition with the NDP? It's happened before. I think we've had warnings already about derogatory names for politicians. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
jbg Posted October 4, 2011 Report Posted October 4, 2011 I think we've had warnings already about derogatory names for politicians. Thanks. Being that I'm not a Canadian I thought that was really a politician's name. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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