the liberals idea of education

[treehugger]

Funny this topic hasn't been brought up yet as it has been all over the news. On Saturday 21, there was a full page in all major papers of what is being taught in schools.

There is a human rights course where kids are taught everything they really don't need to know at such young ages.some of the examples that have to stop

I'm a girl. Don't teach me to question if I'm a boy, transexual, transgendered, intersexed or two spirited.

Read gloria goes to gay parade. If the book isn't available cut out a photo from a newspaper or magazine of the pride parade.

gender bend the characters in the fairy tales. etc etc etc

This is from junior kindergarten to grade 3. what kind of a sicko is he?

You cannot take your child out of classes

Teachers HAVE to teach this crap

And mcguinty has the gall to say that ontario has the best schools in the country.

stopcorruptingchildren.com

Edited September 27, 2011 by treehugger

[guyser]

You cannot take your child out of classes

Sure you can, always could.

Hell, they even taught that to us in school !

[Michael Hardner]

The OP lacks details and a cite.

[guyser]

The OP lacks details and a cite.

Your missing the third 'lacking detail'.

[charter.rights]

Funny this topic hasn't been brought up yet as it has been all over the news. On Saturday 21, there was a full page in all major papers of what is being taught in schools.

There is a human rights course where kids are taught everything they really don't need to know at such young ages.some of the examples that have to stop

I'm a girl. Don't teach me to question if I'm a boy, transexual, transgendered, intersexed or two spirited.

Read gloria goes to gay parade. If the book isn't available cut out a photo from a newspaper or magazine of the pride parade.

gender bend the characters in the fairy tales. etc etc etc

This is from junior kindergarten to grade 3. what kind of a sicko is he?

You cannot take your child out of classes

Teachers HAVE to teach this crap

And mcguinty has the gall to say that ontario has the best schools in the country.

stopcorruptingchildren.com

stopusingchildrentoadvanceyourpoliticalideology.org

[MiddleClassCentrist]

Treehugger,

Anyone who believes the shit at your link is an idiot.

Just because they mention what it means, doesn't mean they force children to question their identity.

EDIT: Your crappy ass site mispelt LINKS on its front page BTW. LIKS. Must have been a freudian slip...

Edited September 27, 2011 by MiddleClassCentrist

[Michael Hardner]

Treehugger,

Anyone who believes the shit at your link is an idiot.

Just because they mention what it means, doesn't mean they force children to question their identity.

EDIT: Your crappy ass site mispelt LINKS on its front page BTW. LIKS. Must have been a freudian slip...

You should be able to take apart treehuggers arguments with profanity and insults. If you can't, then you don't have an argument at all.

[MiddleClassCentrist]

You should be able to take apart treehuggers arguments with profanity and insults. If you can't, then you don't have an argument at all.

Willfull ignorance doesn't deserve much more of a response.

- Teaching kids about sex does not mean forcing them to question their identity.

- Telling kids about gay and lesbian couples being two of the same sex does not make kids homosexual.

Discussing such issues are important for a child to understand and accept their world. Their sensationalists act like they are going to be taught how to insert a penis into an anus and to perform oral sex on members of the same sex.

[Michael Hardner]

That is an argument.

[Oleg Bach]

Compliance - non-defiance - self protection and personal dignity is a big no no in the liberal world. Men are supposed to behave like little girls and are taught to do so at an early age. Woman are taught that they are exactly like men and they are to behave in the same manner as men did in 1959. It becomes a strange mix....and when they breed it seems that the hot chick walks along with the femalish nerd who pushes the stroller ....and if a modern woman sees a man that is tradtional and behaving like a male - that male is deemed bad...it`s pretty twisted. Just like the extreme left...the liberal mind is all about peace...and that angry men are responsible for war and every other nasty thing on earth...small wonder that the Muslim males and others hold our hetrofag society in loathing and contempt.

[Oleg Bach]

Glad my kids are grown - If I were a father today - and insisted I did not want the state to teach my kids concepts that will take away their freedom - human digniity and right to real personal atonomy - the state would steal my children - drug them up and make them compliant and slavish - glad that my timing was on - I would hate to have to bicker with a teacher that is attempts to tell my son or daughter that taking it up the bowel is superiour to vaginal intercourse....Frankly to enter via the exit...and call a man - wife....does NOT empower - and this disempowerment should not be forced on a child as a life style..............I have always said - leave the kids alone...they are NOT property of the state - they are the property of the parent - because they are product of the father and mothers`body....TO circum-navigate parental authority is akin to treating people like cattle...We are human beings - not live stock!

[jacee]

Not to worry Oleg. Madonna taught girls to be girls again and take charge of business too.

And Lady Gaga taught them it's ok to be whoever you are.

The kids are alright.

You, I'm not so sure.

[lukin]

Not to worry Oleg. Madonna taught girls to be girls again and take charge of business too.

And Lady Gaga taught them it's ok to be whoever you are.

The kids are alright.

You, I'm not so sure.

Oleg is fine. It's you that I'm not sure of.

THEY want us to be subservient. Today's sheep don't want to hear or understand the truth. The many kids who can't think are not alright, and many desire the life of a professional protestor.

[William Ashley]

Funny this topic hasn't been brought up yet as it has been all over the news. On Saturday 21, there was a full page in all major papers of what is being taught in schools.

There is a human rights course where kids are taught everything they really don't need to know at such young ages.some of the examples that have to stop

I'm a girl. Don't teach me to question if I'm a boy, transexual, transgendered, intersexed or two spirited.

Read gloria goes to gay parade. If the book isn't available cut out a photo from a newspaper or magazine of the pride parade.

gender bend the characters in the fairy tales. etc etc etc

This is from junior kindergarten to grade 3. what kind of a sicko is he?

You cannot take your child out of classes

Teachers HAVE to teach this crap

And mcguinty has the gall to say that ontario has the best schools in the country.

stopcorruptingchildren.com

I just got to say I'm suprised they keep adding new catagories to the whole sex thing... intersexed? TWO SPIRITED??? I remember when gay was special. These new special sex leaning abilities make gay seem normal and this after they patented Queer.

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I don't think it is corruption but I've always been against sex education in schools. I think it creates exposures to mature materials at ages far too young. It is like teaching welding to 3 year olds.

It really belongs in highschool as an optional course. Much like "Drug Education". It creates a subculture that implants both as "normal activities" instead of attempts to actually prevent them... and if that is their purpose it really is a rape of innocence.

There are young users. It is up to parents to protect their kids, and for the schools system to insure a safe school ground by nazi like spying, cameras and chemical analyzers.

Handing out condoms in schools is just as bad as allowing sex during school hours on school property.

These are private issues and really have no place in the school system, it creates a void of curiousity for those who "rebel"

It is totally backward policy.

And both are serious public issues.

The fact I learned in class the whole sex ed talk completely ruined my birds and bees chat with my father. I sincerely feel that it really didn't belong in elementary school, it is something that should have been explained at home.

For negligent parents it is something that there should be more community involvement in. Like mail pamphlets and get people to test on it if it is part of the curriculum.

There are safety measures to take but I think that anything involving sex and minors is almost akin to counselling to commit a sex act indirectly. Minors are too messed up to be trusted with such serious knowledge.

Protection is much different then expecting self restraint from a minor. Personally I did not have enough maturity as a youth to trust myself to protect myself ---- reality is not fully formed.... kids can't be trusted, I don't think they have really formed a strong enough world view to apply that sort of knowledge. Also people who don't get A's may only remember some parts like the name of the drug rather than the side effects, or how to have sex rather than how to utilize protection.

In school drug tests and monitoring, police reporting/investigation are far more effective and/or monthly checkups.

Edited September 28, 2011 by William Ashley

[lukin]

I just got to say I'm suprised they keep adding new catagories to the whole sex thing... intersexed? TWO SPIRITED??? I remember when gay was special. These new special sex leaning abilities make gay seem normal and this after they patented Queer.

----

I don't think it is corruption but I've always been against sex education in schools. I think it creates exposures to mature materials at ages far too young. It is like teaching welding to 3 year olds.

It really belongs in highschool as an optional course. Much like "Drug Education". It creates a subculture that implants both as "normal activities" instead of attempts to actually prevent them... and if that is their purpose it really is a rape of innocence.

There are young users. It is up to parents to protect their kids, and for the schools system to insure a safe school ground by nazi like spying, cameras and chemical analyzers.

Handing out condoms in schools is just as bad as allowing sex during school hours on school property.

These are private issues and really have no place in the school system, it creates a void of curiousity for those who "rebel"

It is totally backward policy.

And both are serious public issues.

The fact I learned in class the whole sex ed talk completely ruined my birds and bees chat with my father. I sincerely feel that it really didn't belong in elementary school, it is something that should have been explained at home.

For negligent parents it is something that there should be more community involvement in. Like mail pamphlets and get people to test on it if it is part of the curriculum.

There are safety measures to take but I think that anything involving sex and minors is almost akin to counselling to commit a sex act indirectly. Minors are too messed up to be trusted with such serious knowledge.

Protection is much different then expecting self restraint from a minor. Personally I did not have enough maturity as a youth to trust myself to protect myself ---- reality is not fully formed.... kids can't be trusted, I don't think they have really formed a strong enough world view to apply that sort of knowledge. Also people who don't get A's may only remember some parts like the name of the drug rather than the side effects, or how to have sex rather than how to utilize protection.

In school drug tests and monitoring, police reporting/investigation are far more effective and/or monthly checkups.

I don't agree with you too often , William, but I do have to say that was a great post.

[Oleg Bach]

Oleg is fine. It's you that I'm not sure of.

THEY want us to be subservient. Today's sheep don't want to hear or understand the truth. The many kids who can't think are not alright, and many desire the life of a professional protestor.

The kids have all become weaklings under the guise of liberalism. The basic premise of liberal control is to slightly masculinize the females...and to create young males who dare not act as independent forces to be respected. It all goes back to some stupid female or feminist idea that men - acting like men are responsible for war and plunder - but in the back ground a lot of the times are nest building females who indirectly encourage males to wage war for profit...woman love luxury and they don't care if the males have to be preditorial in war or buisness - to fulfill their nest building needs and more. But they have cut off their noses dispite their face - you can not have girly men generate wealth - through war or buisness...other nations that are not liberal will overwlem the girly men we have created...YOU can not alter sexuality and not expect a dire outcome in the end - mess with nature - and mother nature will smack your liberal face.

[Black Dog]

I just got to say I'm suprised they keep adding new catagories to the whole sex thing... intersexed? TWO SPIRITED??? I remember when gay was special. These new special sex leaning abilities make gay seem normal and this after they patented Queer.

Thanks for demonstrating why this type of education is important.

I don't think it is corruption but I've always been against sex education in schools. I think it creates exposures to mature materials at ages far too young. It is like teaching welding to 3 year olds.

What does that even mean, "creates exposures?"

It really belongs in highschool as an optional course. Much like "Drug Education". It creates a subculture that implants both as "normal activities" instead of attempts to actually prevent them... and if that is their purpose it really is a rape of innocence.

By your logic, drug education programs would lead kids to do drugs.

Handing out condoms in schools is just as bad as allowing sex during school hours on school property.

And telling kids not to smoke is just as bad buying them a carton. By your logic.

These are private issues and really have no place in the school system, it creates a void of curiousity for those who "rebel"

So you're saying kids who rebel through sex because they are ignorant of its implications won't if they are educated and you see this as a bad thing?

The fact I learned in class the whole sex ed talk completely ruined my birds and bees chat with my father.

Oh that's tough for you.

For negligent parents it is something that there should be more community involvement in. Like mail pamphlets and get people to test on it if it is part of the curriculum.

So you don't want it taught in schools, but you want it taught to the community at large?

There are safety measures to take but I think that anything involving sex and minors is almost akin to counselling to commit a sex act indirectly.

Bullshit.

Protection is much different then expecting self restraint from a minor. Personally I did not have enough maturity as a youth to trust myself to protect myself ---- reality is not fully formed.... kids can't be trusted, I don't think they have really formed a strong enough world view to apply that sort of knowledge. Also people who don't get A's may only remember some parts like the name of the drug rather than the side effects, or how to have sex rather than how to utilize protection.

This may surprise you, but kids don't need sex-ed to learn how to have sex. They're doing that already. Sending them out unequipped with the knowledge to keep themselves safe when engaging in those behaviours is the worst kind of negligence.

In school drug tests and monitoring, police reporting/investigation are far more effective and/or monthly checkups.

So what, you want schools to test kids for STIs, but you don't want them to tell them how to wear a condom?