maple_leafs182 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 Can independents and democrats vote in this caucus or is it closed to registered republicans? If it is opened to independents I think Paul's numbers will be significantly higher then what we are seeing on the polls now. Quote │ _______ [███STOP███]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ :::::::--------------Conservatives beleive ▄▅█FUNDING THIS█▅▄▃▂- - - - - --- -- -- -- -------- Liberals lie I██████████████████] ...◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙'(='.'=)' ⊙
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 Can independents and democrats vote in this caucus or is it closed to registered republicans? If it is opened to independents I think Paul's numbers will be significantly higher then what we are seeing on the polls now. You have to be or register as a Republican to participate in the Republican caucus meetings / vote. The Iowa caucus is different from a regular party primary election. Ron Paul can get all the votes he wants, but he will never be nominated for the top of the Republican ticket. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 why make that statement when GH made no mention of 'winning in iowa means a party nomination'? Because she likes to make an argument where sometimes there is none. Quote
waldo Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 Because she likes to make an argument where sometimes there is none. *post of the day* Quote
punked Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 You have to be or register as a Republican to participate in the Republican caucus meetings / vote. The Iowa caucus is different from a regular party primary election. Ron Paul can get all the votes he wants, but he will never be nominated for the top of the Republican ticket. But he can sure the tear the party apart because his people don't like to hear that the Republicans wont nominate him. Here is to Ron running third party just to screw things up. Quote
Shady Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 Tell that to Mike Huckabee and McCain, who came in lst and 4th respectively in the Iowa caucus in 2008. Exactly. Or Pat Robertson or Pat Buchanan who both finished first before. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 Exactly. Or Pat Robertson or Pat Buchanan who both finished first before. The Iowa caucus just isn't the big deal some like to make it out to be. Quote
dre Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 So what if they did? My point was that a win in Iowa doesn't mean a party nomination. Some who win in Iowa get the nomination and some who win, don't. It's just not the big deal it was being presented as. Furthermore, Iowa Republican Caucus Winner Won't Be President, History Shows Every single Iowa winner in the last Millenium has gone on to be president. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 But he can sure the tear the party apart because his people don't like to hear that the Republicans wont nominate him. Here is to Ron running third party just to screw things up. Last time around [2008] (this will be Ron Paul's third failed POTUS attempt), he made a fool of himself with an airplane banner ad flying around the western metro of Minneapolis, but the Republican convention was in St. Paul! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 Last time around [2008] (this will be Ron Paul's third failed POTUS attempt), he made a fool of himself with an airplane banner ad flying around the western metro of Minneapolis, but the Republican convention was in St. Paul! He may lose, but he will be back next time if he is still alive. He is a man that won't stay down no matter how much the establishment wants to sideline him. Quote
maple_leafs182 Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 He may lose, but he will be back next time if he is still alive. He is a man that won't stay down no matter how much the establishment wants to sideline him. I disagree. This will be his last run. Delegates wise Ron Paul tied Santorum and Romney in Iowa with 7 each. Quote │ _______ [███STOP███]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ :::::::--------------Conservatives beleive ▄▅█FUNDING THIS█▅▄▃▂- - - - - --- -- -- -- -------- Liberals lie I██████████████████] ...◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙'(='.'=)' ⊙
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 Ron Paul supporters whined that the MSM wasn't giving him any attention, but now that they are, revealing all the old racist crap from his past, they will complain that he is getting too much attention. You can't make this stuff up! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest American Woman Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 Every single Iowa winner in the last Millenium has gone on to be president. Guess that means Ron Paul is out, eh? Evidently Romney is our next POTUS. Quote
bud Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 ron paul received 10% of the votes in iowa in 2008 and 21% in 2012 while romney went from 25% in 2008 to 24% in 2012. paul's popularity has increased and this increase has been consistent. while other candidates (excluding romney) have gone up and down like yoyo's. i still think paul has a decent chance since romney (the healthcare supporting mormon) has never been able to get over 25% support. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
bud Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 New Hampshire newspapers endorse Ron Paul As word of Rick Santorum’s campaign cash dries up and chances at a Granite State victory are in doubt, pundits predict that Texas Congressman Ron Paul and former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney will be battling it out in New Hampshire for the title of victor during and after Saturday’s debate. As the people weigh of the state weigh the pros and cons of the candidates for the last few days before they are left to decide, however, the media in New Hampshire is already offering up their endorsements. Paul, considered an underdog at first but has only surged leading up to the Iowa caucus, has garnered the endorsement of three key publications in the state of New Hampshire. i'm sure many who did before can no longer pretend that ron paul has no chance. link Quote http://whoprofits.org/
Guest American Woman Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 New Hampshire newspapers endorse Ron Paul Paul.... has garnered the endorsement of three key publications in the state of New Hampshire.link "The three papers — located in in New Hampshire’s sparsely populated north country — are owned by the same parent company, Salmon Press." link As for the circulation of the the newspapers, The Littleton Courier, Berlin Reporter, and Coos County Democrat, check out their low ranking on this site: Highest Circulation New Hampshire Newspapers. The Berlin Reporter, with a Circulation of 1,844, didn't even make the list. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 i'm sure many who did before can no longer pretend that ron paul has no chance. No need to pretend...Rep. Ron Paul is going nowhere fast because of his extremist views. He will not be nominated because he has no chance of beating the incumbent president. Dream on.... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
maple_leafs182 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 No need to pretend...Rep. Ron Paul is going nowhere fast because of his extremist views. He will not be nominated because he has no chance of beating the incumbent president. Dream on.... He has a better chance then the other candidates do. Ron Paul gets more support from democrats, independents and the military then any of the other candidates. You call his views extreme but he is just following your countries rule of law, the Constitution. In a recent poll for the New Hampshire primary, Ron Paul is on the rise and Romney is slipping. Romney is polling at 38% down from 41% and Paul is at 24% up from 18%. Quote │ _______ [███STOP███]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ :::::::--------------Conservatives beleive ▄▅█FUNDING THIS█▅▄▃▂- - - - - --- -- -- -- -------- Liberals lie I██████████████████] ...◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙'(='.'=)' ⊙
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 He has a better chance then the other candidates do. Ron Paul gets more support from democrats, independents and the military then any of the other candidates. You call his views extreme but he is just following your countries rule of law, the Constitution. You are naive and don't understand the party nomination process. Two time loser Ron Paul is vying for the Republican party nomination, not the democrat, or independent, military, or Canadian wannabe nomination. In a recent poll for the New Hampshire primary, Ron Paul is on the rise and Romney is slipping. Romney is polling at 38% down from 41% and Paul is at 24% up from 18%. ..and you told us he was going to win in Iowa.....he didn't. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
maple_leafs182 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 You are naive and don't understand the party nomination process. Two time loser Ron Paul is vying for the Republican party nomination, not the democrat, or independent, military, or Canadian wannabe nomination. You said he has no chance at beating Obama, I said he does, he has the best chance. ..and you told us he was going to win in Iowa.....he didn't. It was close, he was winning at some points and entry polls were showing him in the lead...he ended up tying Romney and Santorum for 7 delegates a piece so it is like a win. Quote │ _______ [███STOP███]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ :::::::--------------Conservatives beleive ▄▅█FUNDING THIS█▅▄▃▂- - - - - --- -- -- -- -------- Liberals lie I██████████████████] ...◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙'(='.'=)' ⊙
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 You said he has no chance at beating Obama, I said he does, he has the best chance. How is he going to beat President Obama without the support/nomination of a major American political party? It was close, he was winning at some points and entry polls were showing him in the lead...he ended up tying Romney and Santorum for 7 delegates a piece so it is like a win. It's "like a win" huh? OK, so when Ron Paul loses you can take some consolation in that it is almost "like a win". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 How is he going to beat President Obama without the support/nomination of a major American political party? It's "like a win" huh? OK, so when Ron Paul loses you can take some consolation in that it is almost "like a win". The GOP does not want to put the best man forward. The GOP will nominate another putz puppet to continue with the systematic break down of the USA. It keeps the illusion of democracy going. It makes you think your vote actually matters. It makes you think that the USA is still in great shape. The illusion is fading, people are now beginning to understand the real reality of the real state of things today. Quote
dre Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 Guess that means Ron Paul is out, eh? Evidently Romney is our next POTUS. Yeah probly. I never thought paul had much of a chance... hes actually doing better than I expected. But at the end of the day he has come against two huge American pasttimes. Living on borrowed money, and global military socialism (the idea where Americans pay for a world police force with money borrowed from China). Lets face it. Youre not going to get elected in the US on a platform of fiscal conservativism, or ending global military socialism. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Shady Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 The GOP does not want to put the best man forward. Complete nonsense. And who is this GOP you speak of? Where does he live, and why doesn't he want to put the best man forward? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 ...Lets face it. Youre not going to get elected in the US on a platform of fiscal conservativism, or ending global military socialism. Hell, that wouldn't fly in Canada either these days. LOL! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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