Bob Posted September 7, 2011 Report Posted September 7, 2011 They are the only ones concerned with Canadian Culture. The right just watches FOX TV , and Sun News Network. If the right could be American tomorrow through a Union, they just might take that deal? So the left, as ironic as can be, consumes state-run media that is accountable to nobody, while the right consumes independent media that is accountable to its customers base. If there is a real demand out there for the CBC as it stands, it can survive on its own without 1.2 or 1.3 billion dollars a year from taxpayers. Thank God there's finally a voice out there on TV arguing for a defunding of the CBC. Quote My blog - bobinisrael.blogspot.com - I am writing on it, again!
guyser Posted September 7, 2011 Report Posted September 7, 2011 Thank God there's finally a voice out there on TV arguing for a defunding of the CBC. Yes there is, kind of like shouting for help in the middle of the Atlantic. There might be somebody who can hear your call. Quote
PIK Posted September 7, 2011 Author Report Posted September 7, 2011 No need. Just replace it with Sun TV. I waqtch sun news and I do not like everyone on board ,but they have no problem with going after harper on issues. Does anyone know how much we taxpayers pay mansbridge, because the CBC will not ( and have been told to do so) release what they pay him. I bet ya he makes a huge salary. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Smallc Posted September 7, 2011 Report Posted September 7, 2011 I waqtch sun news and I do not like everyone on board ,but they have no problem with going after harper on issues. Does anyone know how much we taxpayers pay mansbridge, because the CBC will not ( and have been told to do so) release what they pay him. I bet ya he makes a huge salary. Well, that makes sense, since in comparison to the people at Sun News, Mansbridge is a god. Quote
guyser Posted September 7, 2011 Report Posted September 7, 2011 I bet ya he makes a huge salary. Likely commensurate with the number of viewers he brings in. Quote
Saipan Posted September 8, 2011 Report Posted September 8, 2011 Likely commensurate with the number of viewers he brings in. So why does CBC needs tax money to survive? Quote
Boges Posted September 8, 2011 Report Posted September 8, 2011 (edited) So why does CBC needs tax money to survive? They don't, they make the plea that they need it to preserve our culture but they do little to do that. I said in another thread that it's wildly hilarious that the CBC cries poor when asked to switch over to digital broadcasting saying they need the government to pay for it. The private broadcasters did it awhile ago. If Peter Mansbridge is a God what does that make the recently retired Llyod Robertson? I'd argue CTV does a much better job with it's mandate than CBC ever does. I now get a CTV2 in HD! It also has a deece list of Canadian programming. http://shows.ctv.ca/allshows/article/CTVs-2010-2011-Canadian-television-programming#c_0 With little to watch last night my wife turned on the Listener. It's like some sort of crime/cop drama which is not anything new but it's Canadian. It's obviously filmed in Canada and set in Canada dealing with Canadian issues. I guess Flashpoint is similar While the CBC trumpets embarrassingly politically correct crap like Little Mosque on the Prairies and Battle of the Blades. Edited September 8, 2011 by Boges Quote
Smallc Posted September 8, 2011 Report Posted September 8, 2011 If Peter Mansbridge is a God what does that make the recently retired Llyod Robertson? In comparison to Sun TV? Also, a God. Tom Clark would have been too. Quote
Smallc Posted September 8, 2011 Report Posted September 8, 2011 (edited) Scratch that. Tom Clark will be a God....just on Global TV now. Which is funny, because Kevin Newman will do the same on CTV. All in comparison to Sun News, of course. Edited September 8, 2011 by Smallc Quote
Jack Weber Posted September 8, 2011 Report Posted September 8, 2011 Is Sun News still on the air??? The last time I looked it seemed to resemble a very bad 24 hour infomercial for right wing kooks with a really cheap looking set.... Has this changed? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
guyser Posted September 8, 2011 Report Posted September 8, 2011 So why does CBC needs tax money to survive? Ask Harper, he increased funding this year. Quote
guyser Posted September 8, 2011 Report Posted September 8, 2011 Is Sun News still on the air??? Sure is ! The last time I looked it seemed to resemble a very bad 24 hour infomercial for right wing kooks with a really cheap looking set.... Has this changed? Please dont insult 24 hr infomercials. Just wait until they give up the OTA licence next month. Then we will see numbers that m,ay or may not spell the death knell. Quote
Rue Posted September 8, 2011 Report Posted September 8, 2011 (edited) So the left, as ironic as can be, consumes state-run media that is accountable to nobody, while the right consumes independent media that is accountable to its customers base. If there is a real demand out there for the CBC as it stands, it can survive on its own without 1.2 or 1.3 billion dollars a year from taxpayers. Thank God there's finally a voice out there on TV arguing for a defunding of the CBC. Bob we started the CBC and make no mistake about it hoping to imitate the BBC. All commonwealth nations had such a thing, Australia, Jamaica, etc. It was part of our British heritage and quite frankly an attempt to not go American. Lol, ironically our airwaves were soon taken over by the American television stations in the 50's and then 60's and the CBC never preserved English Canadian culture. Some would argue it has served a better purpose in protecting French Canadian culture. Of course in this day and age the CBC is past its point of meaning. It can't serve as a bastion of protection for Canadian culture. Satellite t.v. and specialty channels have put the final coffin in the nail as did government cut backs. Its now a joke and its carcass needs to be cremated and the few NDP it still employs need to be sent packing. The fact is though whether its the CBC or any other station, they all reflect their biases. The only difference is the CBC uses our tax money the others do not. I find the snotty nasal toned presumptious lecturing tone of CBC FM hilarious. I do like the Jazz show. However the whole thing needs to have a stake put through its heart. Edited September 8, 2011 by Rue Quote
Saipan Posted September 8, 2011 Report Posted September 8, 2011 Ask Harper, he increased funding this year. Is he posting here? Quote
cybercoma Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 It's funny how the Canadian version of the Tea Party has jumped on the "defund everything" bandwagon, here targeting CBC, yet not targeting the National Film Board. Quote
Boges Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 It's funny how the Canadian version of the Tea Party has jumped on the "defund everything" bandwagon, here targeting CBC, yet not targeting the National Film Board. Do you know what's also funny? How everything conservative is now labeled Tea Party by the Left. Conservatives in Canada have little to do with the Tea Party. Quote
segnosaur Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 It's funny how the Canadian version of the Tea Party... You are of course making the mistake of assuming that just because they favor certain cuts that the individual is a member of a "Canadian Tea Party". Frankly, the U.S. Tea Party scares me. I believe in reducing the size and impact of government, but I believe the Tea party is really out to lunch. has jumped on the "defund everything" bandwagon here targeting CBC... Another false assumption... I have felt the CBC should have been cut years ago (long before the "tea party" existed. I'm sure others have too. yet not targeting the National Film Board. Well, according to Wikipedia, the National Film Board's budget is roughly $70 million/year (of which $60 million comes from the government). The CBC receives roughly $1 billion (give or take a little.) So, the CBC receives around 16 times the funding of the NFB. Anyone looking to cut wasteful government spending should consider targeting the largest expenditures first. (Someone could also point out that the NFB does do some things that are a little more 'distinctive' than the CBC, in that there is less overlap with what the private sector does. However, for me that's only a minor consideration. The bigger budget of the CBC is the reason its more of an issue for me. Quote
CitizenX Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 Well, that makes sense, since in comparison to the people at Sun News, Mansbridge is a god. Prime example from the creator of "Ethical Oil" Ezra Levant. Quote "The rich people have their lobbyists and the poor people have their feet." The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato
wyly Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 So the left, as ironic as can be, consumes state-run media that is accountable to nobody, while the right consumes independent media that is accountable to its customers base. If there is a real demand out there for the CBC as it stands, it can survive on its own without 1.2 or 1.3 billion dollars a year from taxpayers. Thank God there's finally a voice out there on TV arguing for a defunding of the CBC. so a neutral news source that goes after any political party is automatically leftist???...while news sources owned by hard right capitalists can be trusted with an unbiased approach? are you so naive that you believe they actually care what you think? that they're accountable to their customer base? the editorials, news and current affairs programs are designed to sway opinion, their objective is to TELL you how to think...having a neutral publicly owned news source puts them out of reach of government influence and propaganda, it's the one source of information the government can't muzzle, intimidate or buy... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
cybercoma Posted September 13, 2011 Report Posted September 13, 2011 Do you know what's also funny? How everything conservative is now labeled Tea Party by the Left. Conservatives in Canada have little to do with the Tea Party. It's not all conservatives that want to do away with the CBC and have this misguided notion that almost everything needs to be defunded. Those that take this stance are kin to the new Tea Party movement. Quote
capricorn Posted September 14, 2011 Report Posted September 14, 2011 Bono from U2, Jon Hamm from the hit TV show Mad Men and Kiefer Sutherland were among the guests invited by CBC's George Stroumboulopoulos to a party at the swanky Hazelton Hotel, billed as "Toronto, Canada's most exclusive five-star hotel." The occasion for the party, the second year CBC has hosted such an event, was the Toronto International Film Festival."That's not something we would share with you," CBC spokesman Jeff Keay said when asked about the cost. Keay claimed that the information was of a competitive nature and would not be released. http://www.torontosun.com/2011/09/13/taxpayers-foot-bill-for-cbcs-tiff-party Competitive nature my foot. Why can't taxpayers find out how much this glitzy affair cost us? In clip posted on CBC's website, a reporter for the state broadcaster asked Stroumboulopoulos why he was throwing the party."I've always wanted to be in a band, not a solo artist," Stroumboulopoulos said. "And I want to be in a community. I've always thought that community is interesting. An individual is a tree. A group of individuals is a forest. And forests are strong and they're beautiful and they work together and they feed other things and other things feed them. "I like partying with people," he added, "you know, so, tonight I come and I get to see my friends, you know. And that's fun." Party on, CBC. Obviously, there's nobody standing in your way. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Boges Posted September 14, 2011 Report Posted September 14, 2011 It's not all conservatives that want to do away with the CBC and have this misguided notion that almost everything needs to be defunded. Those that take this stance are kin to the new Tea Party movement. I don't think it's all that extreme to be opposed to the fact that the CBC gets a $1.1 billion head start on the private broadcasters it competes with. What also galls a lot of people, and it's been mentioned several times in this thread, is that if the CBC is a "Crown Corporation" yet refuses to release it's numbers to the public. Quote
wyly Posted September 14, 2011 Report Posted September 14, 2011 Competitive nature my foot. Why can't taxpayers find out how much this glitzy affair cost us? why can't taxpayers find out the true cost of super planes? Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
segnosaur Posted September 14, 2011 Report Posted September 14, 2011 Competitive nature my foot. Why can't taxpayers find out how much this glitzy affair cost us? why can't taxpayers find out the true cost of super planes? I assume you're referring to the purchase of the F35. The 2 situations aren't really comparable. In the case of the F35, we don't know the true cost of the planes because the cost hasn't been finalized yet. The details of the agreement have to be worked out. The F35 is a relatively new piece of hardware and for better or worse there are unknown factors. When it comes time to finalize the deal then we'll know the cost. This is different from the CBC party, which has already gone on. (And even if the government were somehow able to 'hide' the costs, eventually the conservatives will loose power, and whatever party comes after them will have access to the government's books. They can release them if the want. The CBC is more protective of its financials.) Quote
guyser Posted September 14, 2011 Report Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) The 2 situations aren't really comparable. In the case of the PARTY, we don't know the true cost because the cost hasn't been finalized yet.The caterer hasnt provided a final bill/ The details of the agreement have to be worked out. The PARTY WAS a relatively new PARTY and for better or worse there are unknown factors. When it comes time to finalize the deal then we'll know the cost. ( It 'could be said....just sayin' At least for this week and next! Edited September 14, 2011 by guyser Quote
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