Wilber Posted May 25, 2011 Report Posted May 25, 2011 Baseball is statistics and strategy with occasional action. Interesting but I find the pace a little slow. Cricket is the man's version. The fielders don't wear gloves and a ball so hard it makes a baseball feel positively soft. Kind of like rugby being the man's version of football. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bloodyminded Posted May 25, 2011 Report Posted May 25, 2011 Baseball is statistics and strategy with occasional action. Interesting but I find the pace a little slow. Cricket is the man's version. The fielders don't wear gloves and a ball so hard it makes a baseball feel positively soft. Kind of like rugby being the man's version of football. I don't know cricket, so I won't comment. I agree that rugby is a hell of a tough game--I've played it, quite poorly, and was surprised at how much physical pain is involved, as a matter of course. But sports that don't demand such things are still awesome. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Black Dog Posted May 25, 2011 Report Posted May 25, 2011 Interesting question, what's in it for me? It suggests that some don't have the national pride that hockey brings out in others. I always cheer for Canada in international competitions. You know, the team that is made up of and representing Canadians? That's as far as my "national pride" goes on these matters, as it should be. Club play is a completely different story. The Canucks don't represent Canada, but Vancouver. The team itself is barely Canadian at all. To me, this notion that we're supposed to support the only Canadian team is not about pride, but about inadequacy and inferiority. Some still haven't gotten over the fact that hockey is a international sport and are so desperate to cling to the great national myth that they'll jump on any passing bandwagon. You'd never see that in any other country in any other sport. No self-respecting Real Madrid or Manchester City fan would be caught dead cheering for their rivals in the upcoming European Championship because of shared geography. I believe you have a different approach to your support. Yeah: I cheer for teams I like and cheer against the ones I hate. In cases like this where it seems a choice between two evils (Vancouver or Boston) I go with the team whose fans are least likely to cause me personal aggravation and that's Boston. Though I'd be all over Tampa Bay if they can pull it out in the East. I'd love it if they could stick it to another Canadian club in the SCF, just like they did in '04. Quote
Black Dog Posted May 25, 2011 Report Posted May 25, 2011 I don't begrudge any fan their dislikes and favorites when it comes to sports entertainment. However, sanctioned fighting in the NHL is far more boring to me than a 0-0 pitchers duel in baseball. Fighting is not sanctioned in hockey, but punishable by a major penalty. Veteran fans may even know how to complete a baseball game scorecard...there is no equivalent in other major league sports. Yeah: no other sport leave sits fans with that kind of time on their hands. Quote
Wilber Posted May 25, 2011 Report Posted May 25, 2011 But sports that don't demand such things are still awesome. All sports exist because there are enough people who like them. Like anything else, it's just a matter of personal tastes. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Wilber Posted May 25, 2011 Report Posted May 25, 2011 Fighting is not sanctioned in hockey, but punishable by a major penalty. Fighting is sanctioned in that it is allowed at all. International hockey doesn't allow it. Other team contact sports don't allow it. Fight in them and you are gone, often for more than just that game. I think it reduces the games credibility for those who weren't brought up with it. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bloodyminded Posted May 25, 2011 Report Posted May 25, 2011 All sports exist because there are enough people who like them. Like anything else, it's just a matter of personal tastes. Exactly so. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Sir Bandelot Posted May 25, 2011 Report Posted May 25, 2011 You don't like hockey? Why, that's un-Canadian Quote
scouterjim Posted May 25, 2011 Report Posted May 25, 2011 You don't like hockey? Why, that's un-Canadian I dislike hockey, and I am probably a better Canadian than many. I wore this country's uniform, I vote in every election (even if I have to hold my nose whilst doing so), I have been politically active, I volunteer in the community (my "name" should show that), I fly this country's flag on my home every day, but I don't like hockey. So, I am a bad Canadian? Quote I have captured the rare duct taped platypus.
Black Dog Posted May 25, 2011 Report Posted May 25, 2011 I dislike hockey, and I am probably a better Canadian than many. I wore this country's uniform, I vote in every election (even if I have to hold my nose whilst doing so), I have been politically active, I volunteer in the community (my "name" should show that), I fly this country's flag on my home every day, but I don't like hockey. So, I am a bad Canadian? I wouldn't question your patriotism. Your sense of humour on the other hand.... Quote
scouterjim Posted May 25, 2011 Report Posted May 25, 2011 I wouldn't question your patriotism. Your sense of humour on the other hand.... Actually, I am very tired of some hockety fans equating hockey with patriotism. Some may say it in jest, but some are serious. Quote I have captured the rare duct taped platypus.
Black Dog Posted May 25, 2011 Report Posted May 25, 2011 Actually, I am very tired of some hockety fans equating hockey with patriotism. Some may say it in jest, but some are serious. I don't disagree. But the post in question was, to me anyway, clearly tongue in cheek. Quote
sharkman Posted May 25, 2011 Report Posted May 25, 2011 ...I cheer for teams I like and cheer against the ones I hate. In cases like this where it seems a choice between two evils (Vancouver or Boston) I go with the team whose fans are least likely to cause me personal aggravation and that's Boston. Though I'd be all over Tampa Bay if they can pull it out in the East. I'd love it if they could stick it to another Canadian club in the SCF, just like they did in '04. I will be satisfied in the fact that you choose a team to cheer for, and Tampa does have a feel-good aura about them. Many other Canadians will cheer for Vancouver, though, and either way it's going to be a great series. Quote
Black Dog Posted May 25, 2011 Report Posted May 25, 2011 I will be satisfied in the fact that you choose a team to cheer for, and Tampa does have a feel-good aura about them. Many other Canadians will cheer for Vancouver, though, and either way it's going to be a great series. Tampa has Dwayne Roloson, who I believe is owed a Cup after 2006 (the Oilers would likely have taken that series with him in the nets). Nevertheless, I'm thinking it's going to be Boston, which is horrible. I won't even watch if that's the case, but I'll still be pulling for the Bruins. ABC, baby. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Posted May 26, 2011 Fighting is sanctioned in that it is allowed at all. International hockey doesn't allow it. Other team contact sports don't allow it. Fight in them and you are gone, often for more than just that game. I think it reduces the games credibility for those who weren't brought up with it. Agreed...if I want to see ritualized fighting, I can watch wrestling and get a much better show. The NHL sanctions fighting because banning it would reduce some fan interest, team dynamics, and style of play. They should just have a designated time after the game for goon time and the fans who wish to stay and see it. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
scouterjim Posted May 26, 2011 Report Posted May 26, 2011 Agreed...if I want to see ritualized fighting, I can watch wrestling and get a much better show. The NHL sanctions fighting because banning it would reduce some fan interest, team dynamics, and style of play. They should just have a designated time after the game for goon time and the fans who wish to stay and see it. I went to the fights and a hockey game broke out. Quote I have captured the rare duct taped platypus.
Jack Weber Posted May 26, 2011 Report Posted May 26, 2011 Actually, I am very tired of some hockety fans equating hockey with patriotism. Some may say it in jest, but some are serious. Many are serious... Usually the lunkhead "Don Cherry should be Prime Minister" types... Again,they usually get a terse "Go Eff yourself" from me! Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Jack Weber Posted May 26, 2011 Report Posted May 26, 2011 Absolutely, within that intense if rather childish imagination of the sport's biggest adherents. Better than hockey? I suppose, if we are to indefinitely expand the definition of "sport," I'm going to flex my athletic prowess today by mowing the lawn. Hey!! You've chosen something else better than hockey.... Cutting the grass!!! Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Jack Weber Posted May 26, 2011 Report Posted May 26, 2011 Baseball fans are always desparate to find ways to make it seem more interesting. "See! The shortstop moved three feet to his right because the batter hits left and the guy on first has a bum knee! Isn't this exciting!!!!" Stupid. The second most boring sport after baseball. Three hours of guys standing around or walking on and off the field, 11 minutes of action. It's often a dead giveaway that sport/film/band sucks when it's fans fall back on "Oh you just don't understand." It's not about enjoyment for these types, but the sense of superiority it gives them. Anyway, enough thread drift: this is supposed to be about history's greatest monsters, the Vancouver Canucks *spits*. Meh... Enjoy your meaningless,and niche, winter filler sport!!! Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Shwa Posted May 26, 2011 Report Posted May 26, 2011 Other than their hideous two tone orange uni's from a long time ago,what is wrong with the Buccaneers??? They come from Tampa Bay. Quote
Shwa Posted May 26, 2011 Report Posted May 26, 2011 Just so. I like baseball, but this whole "it's the thinking man's game" is belied by the fans themselves. They look like thinkers to you? Absolutely! Why do you think they analyze the game with so many statistics? It is a fans game since there is enough time for the fan to think about what should or will come next and many of the real baseball fans do exactly that. I read an interesting quote from Chomsky about the ability of the average baseball fan to understand and calculate basic stats formulas as an indication that there is certainly no lack of intelligence, at least, in baseball. And yes, I can score a baseball game. Quote
Shwa Posted May 26, 2011 Report Posted May 26, 2011 Baseball is statistics and strategy with occasional action. Interesting but I find the pace a little slow. Cricket is the man's version. The fielders don't wear gloves and a ball so hard it makes a baseball feel positively soft. Kind of like rugby being the man's version of football. Except it is a lot harder to hit a round ball with a round bat than a flat one. So the degree of difficulty goes to baseball. Plus the batters in baseball don't wear protective gloves, while in cricket they do. Since you mentioned gloves. As for rugby, well, football was invented to improve upon it, especially the forward pass. Quote
Sir Bandelot Posted May 26, 2011 Report Posted May 26, 2011 I can score a baseball game. I don't doubt that, but so can the idiot-savant. Quote
bloodyminded Posted May 26, 2011 Report Posted May 26, 2011 (edited) Absolutely! Why do you think they analyze the game with so many statistics? It is a fans game since there is enough time for the fan to think about what should or will come next and many of the real baseball fans do exactly that. I read an interesting quote from Chomsky about the ability of the average baseball fan to understand and calculate basic stats formulas as an indication that there is certainly no lack of intelligence, at least, in baseball. And yes, I can score a baseball game. Well, really, I think baseball fans smart indeed. Since I am one, I was only engaging in self-mockery. False modesty, sure, but so what. Edited May 26, 2011 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Black Dog Posted May 26, 2011 Report Posted May 26, 2011 And yes, I can score a baseball game. The real question here is: why would you? Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.