August1991 Posted April 29, 2011 Report Posted April 29, 2011 http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/royalwedding/story/2011/04/29/royal-wedding-day.html Who is watching this? Why? ---- IMHO, I can understand the fascination of other people watching two people make a deal. We have all stood aside and watched a friend spend alot of money to buy something. But why this current fascination for such a deal? I think many people want to believe in co-operation. They want to believe that two people trust one another in a long term commitment. ---- And yet, this marriage has no more likelihood of success than any other celebrity marriage - because that's what it is: a celebrity marriage. I give this marriage a maximum of 10 years. In the Western world, circus not commitment now fascinates us. Quote
Topaz Posted April 29, 2011 Report Posted April 29, 2011 You may be right,but you also could be wrong. The reason Will's parent marriage failed was Charles wasn't 100% committed to the marriage, having spent the night before with Camilla. Diana knew this and tried to refuse to marry him because the Royals wouldn't have it. Diana was there to give the Royals a heir and now that heir is marriying the woman he truly loves and she loves him and I think they will succeed in doing so. Kate is more aware of what is expected of her and she doesn't have to fight the third person in their marriage, like Diana. One of the best event was when the one of the two Lancasters in the world fly over. The other Lancaster is here in Canada and my late fatherinlaw, fly one in the WW2. Quote
August1991 Posted April 29, 2011 Author Report Posted April 29, 2011 (edited) Here's the video that channel V played this morning. Edited April 29, 2011 by August1991 Quote
GostHacked Posted April 29, 2011 Report Posted April 29, 2011 Why is this even considered news? What have the royals done for us? Quote
g_bambino Posted April 29, 2011 Report Posted April 29, 2011 Ah, so this is where the dry, grey, curmudgeon anti-monarchists have been having their pout. Quote
GostHacked Posted April 29, 2011 Report Posted April 29, 2011 Ah, so this is where the dry, grey, curmudgeon anti-monarchists have been having their pout. I will say I am anti-monarchy. What has the monarchy done for you lately? They are the largest recipients of welfare on this planet!!! I am not happy being refered to as a 'subject'. Can you or I afford such an elaborate wedding with an elaborate police precense knocking down peoples doors so they don't protest the wedding? But it's an awesome distraction for the real issues going on around the world. A nuke plant in japan they still cannot control, a new war in north africa, failing economies around the globe ... distractions, and people eat it up. Quote
g_bambino Posted April 29, 2011 Report Posted April 29, 2011 What has the monarchy done for you lately? Played a role in the stable governance of my country; put a human face to the state; provided a focal point for the nation that's free of politics and other divisive issues; raised awareness and money for charities; been an example of duty and service above self interest; to name a few things. They are the largest recipients of welfare on this planet!!! I think you mean public servants who never retire and collect fat pensions. I am not happy being refered to as a 'subject'. How awful for you, having to live in denial of the fact that you'll always be subject to something. Can you or I afford such an elaborate wedding with an elaborate police precense knocking down peoples doors so they don't protest the wedding? And now we're off to loony land... Quote
Black Dog Posted April 29, 2011 Report Posted April 29, 2011 Played a role in the stable governance of my country; put a human face to the state; provided a focal point for the nation that's free of politics and other divisive issues; raised awareness and money for charities; been an example of duty and service above self interest; to name a few things. Does any of this (assuming it's true) compel me to give a shit about their comings and goings and miscellaneous ceremonial fuckery? Quote
g_bambino Posted April 29, 2011 Report Posted April 29, 2011 Does any of this (assuming it's true) compel me to give a shit about their comings and goings and miscellaneous ceremonial fuckery? Do you really need someone else to answer that question for you? Quote
BC_chick Posted April 29, 2011 Report Posted April 29, 2011 I didn't follow any of it, but I tuned in a bit this morning. I can only answer for myself - but I wanted to see the wedding dress, a bit of the ceremony and of course the hats. Who knows, they may last, they may not. It's not the issue, it's a real-life fairy tale in a moment of time. Why do you think the audience was mostly women. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Black Dog Posted April 29, 2011 Report Posted April 29, 2011 Do you really need someone else to answer that question for you? Well, your suggestion that asking the question of "who is watching this and why" makes one a "dry, grey, curmudgeon anti-monarchist" implies you have an answer. Quote
g_bambino Posted April 29, 2011 Report Posted April 29, 2011 Well, your suggestion that asking the question of "who is watching this and why" makes one a "dry, grey, curmudgeon anti-monarchist" implies you have an answer. You're conflating two separate strains of conversation. Quote
bud Posted April 29, 2011 Report Posted April 29, 2011 they cost around £40 million each year. this cost excludes costs for police and army security and ceremonial services. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
Guest American Woman Posted April 29, 2011 Report Posted April 29, 2011 I will say I am anti-monarchy. What has the monarchy done for you lately? They are the largest recipients of welfare on this planet!!! I am not happy being refered to as a 'subject'. I'm anti-monarchy, too, and at times like this I'm even happier that my country isn't tied to royalty. I would not be pleased to be referred to as a subject, either, and just as distasteful to me is the reference to "commoners." The constant reference to the The Future King choosing to marry *gasp* a commoner makes me glad to be monarchy-free. Quote
jbg Posted April 29, 2011 Report Posted April 29, 2011 Why is this even considered news? What have the royals done for us? Ah, so this is where the dry, grey, curmudgeon anti-monarchists have been having their pout. I will say I am anti-monarchy. What has the monarchy done for you lately? They are the largest recipients of welfare on this planet!!! I am not happy being refered to as a 'subject'. Played a role in the stable governance of my country; put a human face to the state; provided a focal point for the nation that's free of politics and other divisive issues; raised awareness and money for charities; been an example of duty and service above self interest; to name a few things. I am an American and hence not one of the "subjects" and yet both myself and all adult members of my family watched either the wedding or part of a rerun. Same with the fourteen or so people in my office. I believe that the English-speaking people are to some extent a unit; united we stand and divided we fall. We learned this the hard way when the U.S.'s delayed intervention in both World Wars almost led to the death of the U.K. I think that the English people and system have been a beacon of hope, freedom and good government throughout the world. Hardly perfect, but very good. The sense I have when watching the ceremony is that, "we are them, they are us". Though politically we are separate entities, we are brethren for a cause, a most important cause. That is life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
g_bambino Posted April 29, 2011 Report Posted April 29, 2011 (edited) The constant reference to the The Future King choosing to marry *gasp* a commoner makes me glad to be monarchy-free. And yet, it was nobody but the British tabloids going on about such things. The Palace - what one would think is the apex of class structure - obviously didn't care. Plus, you'll find that there's social strata in all countries, including (perhaps especially) in the US. Snobbishness isn't an inherent trait of monarchies, nor is it unique to them. [sp] Edited April 29, 2011 by g_bambino Quote
g_bambino Posted April 29, 2011 Report Posted April 29, 2011 I believe that the English-speaking people are to some extent a unit; united we stand and divided we fall... The sense I have when watching the ceremony is that, "we are them, they are us". Though politically we are separate entities, we are brethren... AKA, the Anglosphere. I imagine there was some reason the Empire State Building was lit in red, white, and blue through last night, in particular... Quote
g_bambino Posted April 29, 2011 Report Posted April 29, 2011 they cost around £40 million each year. this cost excludes costs for police and army security and ceremonial services. While, at the same time, they make the UK £210 million a year from the Crown Estate. Quote
sunsettommy Posted April 29, 2011 Report Posted April 29, 2011 (edited) I am an American and hence not one of the "subjects" and yet both myself and all adult members of my family watched either the wedding or part of a rerun. Same with the fourteen or so people in my office. I believe that the English-speaking people are to some extent a unit; united we stand and divided we fall. We learned this the hard way when the U.S.'s delayed intervention in both World Wars almost led to the death of the U.K. I think that the English people and system have been a beacon of hope, freedom and good government throughout the world. Hardly perfect, but very good. The sense I have when watching the ceremony is that, "we are them, they are us". Though politically we are separate entities, we are brethren for a cause, a most important cause. That is life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I agree with your sentiments jbg. But to watch a royal wedding is NOT worth my time away from working with my climate skeptic forum and help run two other websites. Edited April 29, 2011 by sunsettommy Quote Visit GLOBAL WARMING SKEPTICS
Guest American Woman Posted April 29, 2011 Report Posted April 29, 2011 And yet, it was nobody but the British tabloids going on about such things. The Palace - what one would think is the apex of class structure - obviously didn't care. I don't care if the palace "cared" or not, though it's awfully big of them to accept a "commoner" into the fold. Good thing Kate wasn't Catholic, though, or bye bye throne. Plus, you'll find that there's social strata in all countries, including (perhaps especially) in the US. Snobbishness isn't an inherent trait of monarchies, nor is it unique to them.[sp] Really, eh? The U.S. has "class" distinctions? The U.S. "especially" has such class distinctions? I think not. Quote
Scotty Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 they cost around £40 million each year. this cost excludes costs for police and army security and ceremonial services. And bring in several billion in tourist dollars... Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
g_bambino Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 Really, eh? The U.S. has "class" distinctions? Yup. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 Yup. Well there you go then. You and you alone are know something that goes on in the United States that is so well hidden as not to ever be mentioned/referred to. Thanks for the education! Now if you could tell me what those social classes are, I'd be very grateful. And I repeat. Good thing Kate isn't Catholic, eh? Quote
Smallc Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 Good thing Obama actually was born in the US. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 Good thing Obama actually was born in the US. And good thing you have me on ignore so I'm normally spared such irrelevant responses. Quote
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