Jack Weber Posted April 6, 2011 Report Posted April 6, 2011 We may very well be some day. We simply haven't found enough oil. There is only one thing that separates have provinces from have not - oil and or natural gas (The have provinces are BC, Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Newfoundland and Labrador. The have not provinces are Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec, New Brunswick, PEI, and Nova Scotia. Notice anything?). Yeah... A high CDN dollar... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
punked Posted April 6, 2011 Author Report Posted April 6, 2011 Right, I forgot, if it wasn't for the "extended" self serving NDP Govs. we've had in Manitoba we would probably be a "have" province like Saskabush by now... High TIME for a LIBERAL GOVERNMENT in Manitoba, eh... Yah because the province that have those love them so much. Bottom three governments by approval of their government Ontario, Quebec, and BC notice anything? Quote
GWiz Posted April 6, 2011 Report Posted April 6, 2011 No kidding. At least we have a choice in Manitoba this fall. Too bad we're probably not going to make the right choice. "Sigh", Federal CON, provincial NDPer, gottcha... You are right however, Manitobans DO have viable choices even if both the NDP and MB PCs are "questionable" as viable Governments, since BOTH seem to make some very bad "choices"... BTW Smallc, Doer, who was, as you say, pretty centrist (virtually a Liberal in fact), left for a better job... NOW, there's been a significant move to the left by the NDP here in Manitoba which in turn has elevated the MB PC's chances this fall... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
punked Posted April 6, 2011 Author Report Posted April 6, 2011 "Sigh", Federal CON, provincial NDPer, gottcha... You are right however, Manitobans DO have viable choices even if both the NDP and MB PCs are "questionable" as viable Governments, since BOTH seem to make some very bad "choices"... BTW Smallc, Doer, who was, as you say, pretty centrist (virtually a Liberal in fact), left for a better job... NOW, there's been a significant move to the left by the NDP here in Manitoba which in turn has elevated the MB PC's chances this fall... To be fair Smallc was a Liberal Federally until it came to a breaking point with Iggy. I am sure in the future Smallc will return to that ground given the Liberals ever find their roots and start trying to run against the Cons instead of against the NDP. As for Doer is a "Liberal" comment. You are just trying to move the goal posts, Doer was virtually a NDPer period. Look to NS the NDP their are doing the samething Doer did, look anywhere in the country the NDP balance the books first, look to small business second, than push progress social policy that is the party the NDP are. Quote
GWiz Posted April 6, 2011 Report Posted April 6, 2011 Yah because the province that have those love them so much. Bottom three governments by approval of their government Ontario, Quebec, and BC notice anything? Yeah! They're Canada's BIGGEST, most populated, 3 provinces and therefore have to, and do, take in the most taxes? Two of them had NDP Governments and the other had a "simular" to NDP Government and managed to get rid of them... Manitoba's turn this fall? Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
punked Posted April 6, 2011 Author Report Posted April 6, 2011 Yeah! They're Canada's BIGGEST, most populated, 3 provinces and therefore have to, and do, take in the most taxes? Two of them had NDP Governments and the other had a "simular" to NDP Government and managed to get rid of them... Manitoba's turn this fall? Yes and the Liberals have an average approval rating of 20% in those provinces. Nice. Quote
Jack Weber Posted April 6, 2011 Report Posted April 6, 2011 Yeah! They're Canada's BIGGEST, most populated, 3 provinces and therefore have to, and do, take in the most taxes? Two of them had NDP Governments and the other had a "simular" to NDP Government and managed to get rid of them... Manitoba's turn this fall? It'll certainly be the Liberals turn in Ontario this fall... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
GWiz Posted April 6, 2011 Report Posted April 6, 2011 It'll certainly be the Liberals turn in Ontario this fall... Cool, what's the betting line, Ray 2 ahead? Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
GWiz Posted April 6, 2011 Report Posted April 6, 2011 Yes and the Liberals have an average approval rating of 20% in those provinces. Nice. 20% gets parties elected in those 3 provinces? Interesting... Or did something "special" happen to get that result? Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
Jack Weber Posted April 6, 2011 Report Posted April 6, 2011 Cool, what's the betting line, Ray 2 ahead? Sadly...A Mike Harris Redux.. Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
GWiz Posted April 6, 2011 Report Posted April 6, 2011 Sadly...A Mike Harris Redux.. Ack! I wouldn't have thought that, especially when the other side of the HST coin has the picture of Harper, and Ontario running up $2 BILLION + more deficit... ALL Canadians paying off $2 BILLION + is "easier" than just Ontarians having to pay it isn't it? Of course Ontarians are also saddled with paying for the coin BC and (soon) Quebec (plus the Maritime Provinces) too, but, hey, at least Ontario got it's cut of the pie in hard TIMES... Think about it... You may be a whole lot better off by keeping what you got if that's the case... The HST poop doesn't change anyone's daily life all that much when one truly analyses it, does it? Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
Jack Weber Posted April 6, 2011 Report Posted April 6, 2011 Ack! I wouldn't have thought that, especially when the other side of the HST coin has the picture of Harper, and Ontario running up $2 BILLION + more deficit... ALL Canadians paying off $2 BILLION + is "easier" than just Ontarians having to pay it isn't it? Of course Ontarians are also saddled with paying for the coin BC and (soon) Quebec (plus the Maritime Provinces) too, but, hey, at least Ontario got it's cut of the pie in hard TIMES... Think about it... You may be a whole lot better off by keeping what you got if that's the case... The HST poop doesn't change anyone's daily life all that much when one truly analyses it, does it? Not really... It was a sop to business and the Chamber of Commerce types... And you've hit on the paradox for October... "Wine Tasting" Tim originally said that he was dead set agianst the HST...The asked what he's do differently if he was in the big chair at Queens Park,we got.... "Uh...Well....Uh...Well...I'd exempt certain things.." One must remember that "Wine Tasting" Tim is a disciple of Slasher Jimmy Flaherty,who himself wanted a bleanded tax when he was Ontario Finance Minister... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
GWiz Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 It was a sop to business and the Chamber of Commerce types... And you've hit on the paradox for October... Well, not my call for sure, but from the outside seeing where Herper's "recession" actually did "hit" like a little tsunami, like Southern Ontario, you guys didn't have a whole lot of choice but the one that was taken... You may also want to look at the EI in that area and consider hard if Bus and CoC were the only bennys... Especially from where YOU sit... Just sayin', not defendin' Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
BubberMiley Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 NOW, there's been a significant move to the left by the NDP here in Manitoba which in turn has elevated the MB PC's chances this fall... If by "significant," you mean "undetectable." Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
GWiz Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 (edited) If by "significant," you mean "undetectable." OK... Some can smell an odor, some can't, I don't much care either way to be perfectly honest, my "team" ain't in the running in MB... $2 BILLION errors (bi-pole 3), $250 MILLION errors (autopac - no coverage unless you're a car thief) stink pretty bad to me... Edited April 7, 2011 by GWiz Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
BubberMiley Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 $2 BILLION errors (bi-pole 3), $250 MILLION errors (autopac - no coverage unless you're a car thief) stink pretty bad to me... And this has changed since Doer was Premier how? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
punked Posted April 7, 2011 Author Report Posted April 7, 2011 20% gets parties elected in those 3 provinces? Interesting... Or did something "special" happen to get that result? No 20% is the APPROVAL rating of these Liberal parties which may or may not get them elected but it is sure the lowest in Canada for any governments. Quote
eyeball Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Btw, I do actually agree that the Conservatives are nowhere near as far right as the US Republicans or perhaps even the UK Conservatives... At least half of our conservative/Conservatives or about 20% of Canadians, the most influential 20%, are every bit as far right as Republicans. This is a real measure of just how perverse our FPTP system is. OTOH it is also clearly why FPTP is the most revered aspect of the queer style of democracy we practice. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Harry Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 (edited) Angus Reid Strategies Canada C - 38%, down 1% L - 27%, up 2% N - 21%, up 2% B - 8%, down 2% G - 6%, down 1% Ontario C - 41%, down 5% L - 33%, up 2% N - 19%, up 3% Quebec B - 34%, down 2% N - 24%, up 4% C - 19% L - 18% Leadership Leader / Approval / Disapproval Layton / 43% / 31% Harper / 34%, down 3% / 51%, up 3% Ignatieff / 25%, up 6% / 52%, http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/970557--ignatieff-s-appeal-improving-but-harper-still-leads-poll-says?bn=1 Edited April 7, 2011 by Harry Quote
bloodyminded Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Yeah, I do actually agree that it's silly to say the CPC is extreme right and the NDP is extreme left. Yeah. I mean we can talk all we want about what Harper might really be like; I don't know, but I do know he's led, policy-wise, as a not atypical Conservative. If he's radical, it's in his approach to Parliament as a minority, not as an extremist ideologue. And the NDP are "far left"? Please. Relative to what? Franco? Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Harry Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Nanos C - 39.6% L - 30.4% N - 17.2% B - 8.3% G - 3.2% http://www.nanosresearch.com/election2011/20110406-BallotE.pdf Quote
ToadBrother Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Nanos C - 39.6% L - 30.4% N - 17.2% B - 8.3% G - 3.2% I'm thinking we may be seeing a replay of the 2008 election. Quote
Evening Star Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 I could live with that, actually. Quote
TheRightWing Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 I could live with that, actually. Me too, I think Canada just needs to stay on course, it's got us through this Global recession relative to our southern neighbors somewhat scathed but unbloodied. We need consistency in these times. And While I don't agree with Harper on everything. I don't want Ignatieff Prime minister. Pretty simple. Quote
ToadBrother Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 I could live with that, actually. For me, it's the optimum result. None of them deserve a majority, but the Tories have the most experience running a minority government. Quote
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