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Smallc · October 17, 2015

Pfft, Gagnier affair.

CITIZEN_2015 · October 17, 2015

The Gagneir affair is just another reminder that we cannot go back to another Liberal government. We had the Chretien and Martin Liberals Adscam and now we have Trudeau and his Lobbyist scandal and he isn't even PM yet. It's scary to think of another Adscam type scandal or worse coming back to Canada and what's worse is that we won't know how much a scandal will cost us until they've already broken the rules.

We simply cannot afford another decade or two of Liberal rule.

You wish to talk about scandals??

Then read:

http://www.thestar.com/news/federal-election/2015/08/14/a-conservative-collection-of-harper-government-scandals.html

and a lot more:

https://harperwatch.wordpress.com/

What we cannot afford is another conservative government.

Edited October 25, 2015 by CITIZEN_2015

Shady · October 17, 2015

We must recognize that this New Liberal party under Trudeau is the same as the old party with Chretien and Martin.

The Gagneir affair is just another reminder that we cannot go back to another Liberal government. We had the Chretien and Martin Liberals Adscam and now we have Trudeau and his Lobbyist scandal and he isn't even PM yet. It's scary to think of another Adscam type scandal or worse coming back to Canada and what's worse is that we won't know how much a scandal will cost us until they've already broken the rules.

We simply cannot afford another decade or two of Liberal rule.

No I don't believe that a Justin government would be the same as Chrétien or Martin. That's the problem. They were for fiscal responsibility. He throws fiscal responsibility out the window. If he's elected, I'll be glad when that national nightmare is finally over in a year or two.

BC_chick · October 17, 2015

I'll tell you this. I'm a supporter of the NDP. I've given them my time and money. However, the person who won the nomination in my riding is awful. If she were the only person on the ballot, I would stay home on election day. So while it may be true that you're voting for the party, the candidates matter. At least for me the candidates matter. I don't want the person representing me and my riding in Ottawa to be a tool. I want them to be able to make the case for our riding, whether that's on the floor in parliament or in caucus meetings. The NDP candidate in my riding is the absolute worst advocate out of all of them and as a result I'm breaking my party loyalty and voting for someone else. In fact, she's so awful that I've now considered withdrawing my support entirely from the party.

Oh please don't withdraw support for the NDP because of your local candidate. Can you find other local candidates you like and work closely with them? At least you're staying part of the team you believe in without supporting the candidate you think is a complete imbecile. That's understandable.

Vancouver King · October 17, 2015

This is true if the polls are right and all those with intention to vote for liberals or NDP actually show up and vote.

For someone who hangs on every poll result your sudden doubts about their veracity is puzzling.

Surely, the prospect of electing a gov't in the public interest over rides unfounded concerns of an eleventh hour, death bed comeback by the Conservatives.

CITIZEN_2015 · October 17, 2015

For someone who hangs on every poll result your sudden doubts about their veracity is puzzling.

Surely, the prospect of electing a gov't in the public interest over rides unfounded concerns of an eleventh hour, death bed comeback by the Conservatives.

I am still interested in polls. At the very least they showed us who had the momentum past week but I also stated the fact that RECENT polls have been wrong in predicting the results. Discouraging people to vote for liberals or showing overconfidence may result re-election of Stephen Harper and I do NOT wish to take that risk that at any cost and as for national or public interest such even would be disastrous for the national or public interest.

Edited October 17, 2015 by CITIZEN_2015

Canada_First · October 17, 2015

The Conservatives have been quite good. Hardly any scandals at all compared to the former Liberals or PC governments. If anything people should vote for the NDP and not Liberal.

You know what you get with Conservatives. Low taxes. Great fiscal management. Job growth and defending Real CanadIan Values and not imported foreign values.

With the Liberals you get high spending. High taxes. Questionable foreign policy and the replacement of Canadian values with imported Foregin values and practices.

I'd give the NDP a chance before the Liberals. So if you're progressive and looking to park your vote. Vote for Mulcair and his team of NDP.

ToadBrother · October 17, 2015

The Conservatives have been quite good. Hardly any scandals at all compared to the former Liberals or PC governments. If anything people should vote for the NDP and not Liberal.

You know what you get with Conservatives. Low taxes. Great fiscal management. Job growth and defending Real CanadIan Values and not imported foreign values.

With the Liberals you get high spending. High taxes. Questionable foreign policy and the replacement of Canadian values with imported Foregin values and practices.

I'd give the NDP a chance before the Liberals. So if you're progressive and looking to park your vote. Vote for Mulcair and his team of NDP.

I can't help but read this post as if it was being spoken by Homer Simpson.

CITIZEN_2015 · October 17, 2015

I can't help but read this post as if it was being spoken by Homer Simpson.

I have to give it t him. He has some nerves especially after I listed a list of Stephen Harper recent conservative scandals!!!!!!!!.

CITIZEN_2015 · October 17, 2015

I'd give the NDP a chance before the Liberals. So if you're progressive and looking to park your vote. Vote for Mulcair and his team of NDP.

Yeah right the usual DIVIDE and CONQUER by conservatives.

You fool me once shame on you you fool me twice shame on me.

Edited October 17, 2015 by CITIZEN_2015

Vancouver King · October 17, 2015

I am still interested in polls. At the very least they showed us who had the momentum past week but I also stated the fact that RECENT polls have been wrong in predicting the results.

If as you say recent polls have been all wrong, why do you continue to obsess over them?

I am all but certain you will sacrifice an outcome in the public interest for a 4 year majority by Trudeau and his salivating insiders.

Canada_First · October 17, 2015

Yeah right the usual DIVIDE and CONQUER by conservatives.

You fool me once shame on you you fool me twice shame on me.

You can choose Liberals and their scandals or you can choose a new voice. A third choice. A new choice. A non scandalous choice. The NDP.

Remember. You don't have to choose scandal. You have a third new choice. The orange choice. The NDP.

cybercoma · October 17, 2015

Same here!

You don't happen to live in Fredericton do you? :lol:

cybercoma · October 17, 2015

Your vote is your choice, and which party you support is yours as well. But I'm curious here. Are you blaming the party for a riding association's nomination? Or was this a parachuted candidate? If the former, other than Mulcair signing the nomination papers, which he would do for the overwhelming majority of candidates, I have a hard time seeing how the party is to blame. If it is the latter, and the candidate was dropped into the riding by the NDP, then yes, I can understand your anger.

The issue of the "wisdom" of ridings was one of the chief objections to the nomination aspects of Michael Chong's bill. While in principle it seems the height of democratic intent that the local riding association be solely responsible for nominations, the reality is that riding associations sometimes select some fairly dubious candidates. We've seen a few this time, but Reform in the 1990s had some real wingnuts, and Manning's populist democratic stance meant that he didn't interfere, at least in any overt way, with nominations.

Fair enough. It's likely a problem with the local riding association. She was their nomination and had run in the provincial election a couple elections ago. But she's terrible and frankly, I should get more involved in the riding association's business so awful candidates like her don't get nominated. She makes the party look bad and it's disappointing.

ToadBrother · October 17, 2015

You can choose Liberals and their scandals or you can choose a new voice. A third choice. A new choice. A non scandalous choice. The NDP.

Remember. You don't have to choose scandal. You have a third new choice. The orange choice. The NDP.

Still hoping to recover that vote split, eh?

The Tories are doomed. And get used to a minority of some longevity. Harper's early election call has not served to deliver him votes, but has made sure the Liberals and NDP won't be able to afford to go to an early election.

Harper's hubris and desire to strike low blows at his enemies has played against the Tories, and they'll have some time Opposition to ponder the man's arrogant miscalculation.

Canada_First · October 17, 2015

I urge people to vote their conscience.

If want to be a real progressive vote NDP. We all know that the Liberals campaign from the left yet govern from the right. Thats not progressive.

Only one progressive voice and that's the NDP.

Vancouver King · October 17, 2015

Pfft, Gagnier affair.

Thanks for the reminder of the stench wafting from the Liberal war room the moment the national campaign co-chair emailed his oil industry client on how to lobby his expected gov't - a week before the election.

CITIZEN_2015 · October 17, 2015

You can choose Liberals and their scandals or you can choose a new voice. A third choice. A new choice. A non scandalous choice. The NDP.

Remember. You don't have to choose scandal. You have a third new choice. The orange choice. The NDP.

We both know NDP has no chance in the government. You wish to divide and conquer. And also the reason they have never had scandals in the past is because they have never been in the government!!!!!!!!!

CITIZEN_2015 · October 17, 2015

I urge people to vote their conscience.

If want to be a real progressive vote NDP. We all know that the Liberals campaign from the left yet govern from the right. Thats not progressive.

Only one progressive voice and that's the NDP.

Until a few weeks ago you were staunch supporter of conservatives and now NDP. Changing color so fast and between two extremes REALLY!! A clear case of DIVIDE AND CONQUER.

CITIZEN_2015 · October 17, 2015

I am all but certain you will sacrifice an outcome in the public interest for a 4 year majority by Trudeau and his salivating insiders.

I don't know why you say this. I have already indicated I prefer a strong minority to majority. I disagree with your tactics at this stage of the game suddenly starting posting against liberals based on theoretical polls especially when I know you are not a conservative supporter so divide and conquer is not your goal.

Bryan · October 17, 2015

Fair enough. It's likely a problem with the local riding association. She was their nomination and had run in the provincial election a couple elections ago. But she's terrible and frankly, I should get more involved in the riding association's business so awful candidates like her don't get nominated. She makes the party look bad and it's disappointing.

Wait, you didn't even vote in the EDA election? Why not?

Big Guy · October 17, 2015

We have a major paper shredding and recycling facility here in town. I understand that there has been a request for its 6 paper shredding trucks to arrive in Ottawa on Tuesday. Not quite sure what that means.

ReeferMadness · October 17, 2015

I'd rather see a weak minority and pass a test for a stable coalition government. Then a PR preferably by STV government.

agreed.

Bryan · October 17, 2015

We have a major paper shredding and recycling facility here in town. I understand that there has been a request for its 6 paper shredding trucks to arrive in Ottawa on Tuesday. Not quite sure what that means.

Already answered a few pages back. It's got nothing to do with the PMO.

ReeferMadness · October 17, 2015

I'll tell you this. I'm a supporter of the NDP. I've given them my time and money. However, the person who won the nomination in my riding is awful. If she were the only person on the ballot, I would stay home on election day. So while it may be true that you're voting for the party, the candidates matter. At least for me the candidates matter. I don't want the person representing me and my riding in Ottawa to be a tool. I want them to be able to make the case for our riding, whether that's on the floor in parliament or in caucus meetings. The NDP candidate in my riding is the absolute worst advocate out of all of them and as a result I'm breaking my party loyalty and voting for someone else. In fact, she's so awful that I've now considered withdrawing my support entirely from the party.

This is why we need STV. It's unrealistic for 1 person to represent all of the people in a riding. It doesn't matter who it is, someone will detest that individual.