Mayor Ford to nix Pride Funding!

[guyser]

The taxpayers should not have to support any of these groups (Homosexual parade and the caribana). It does not involve the majority. If they are doing as well as is said they shouldn't need all the the money they ask for.

Neither do Canada Day Celebrations, nor a myriad of other Gov supported events.

[jbg]

Neither do Canada Day Celebrations, nor a myriad of other Gov supported events.

As far as Dominion Day, err, Canada Day you're joking, right?

[guyser]

As far as Dominion Day, err, Canada Day you're joking, right?

Not at all.

[Black Dog]

The taxpayers should not have to support any of these groups (Homosexual parade and the caribana). It does not involve the majority.

Majority of what or who?

[guyser]

Majority of what or who?

Cut and run posters I guess. We wont get an answer.

[Rue]

1-Au contraire.

2-Not to mention that when I completely destroyed your position by posting the funding streams from the Toronto Arts Council, you didn't reply. I thought you had tucked your tail between your legs and fled like a pup.

Say I just read that. This latest news item that Mr. Ford won't attend the parade caused me to come back to this thread.

Now in regards to 1, I had no idea Shwa was a faux fag hag double spirit bilingual.

Now in regards to 2, Shwa darling, since when does the Toronto Arts Council collect funding from the city government to engage in anti Zionist parades. Did I miss something dear?

Lol. Fled like a pup. Get it right Shwa, I am referred to as a Canaan Dog.

[Rue]

Cut and run posters I guess. We wont get an answer.

Yoo hoo hi.

So cut and run. Sounds like a busy Rabbia going from briss to briss.

Are you referring to JBG or moi or perhaps Bobby Ford.

Now in my case I am always around to tell you the majority of us do not want to fund some pathetic affected spoiled child having tantrums about Zionism while wearing his thongs.

There's a time and a place for screaming at Jews. Gay pride is not one of them.

As for Mr. Ford not wanting to attend I will speak to him. He told me he is afraid one of your friends will try pinch his buttox. Bob is shy. he feels he has big breasts from his weight issue and this could cause further misunderstanding.

He also can't walk as he is overweight and he is afraid he would break the float he was asked to sit on.

Now mind you I hear he is reconsidering. Several of the more overweight draq queens are in negotiations with him.

[Black Dog]

The transformation of Rue into Oleg Blach II is now complete.

[Oleg Bach]

The taxpayers should not have to support any of these groups (Homosexual parade and the caribana). It does not involve the majority. If they are doing as well as is said they shouldn't need all the the money they ask for.

There are a lot of young throughly conditioned people who believe that Ford is a bad guy. Most of these detractors are raised with under the political and social premise that is is a BAD thing to dislike anything. Ford like myself or any other independent person should not be FORCED to like something that he finds unpleasant or unsavory. If he finds that funding or marching in this Pride parade to be personally unpleasant and demeaning then he has the right to "feel" that way .

The extremist liberals are all about feelings - well what about my feelings or Ford's feelings. This phenomena spawns for the late sixties generation of that insisted "if it feels good do it!" _ a horse licking my butt might feel good but I am not going to do it ...nor should I be politically or socially coerced into the personal exceptance of things and practices that I find unpleasant...nor should I be forced to glorify what I understand not to be fit to glorify.

I nor Ford is not going to go out of his way to harm or persecute those that participate in gay day. BUT _ we should have the civil right and human right to discriminate on what we FEEL...is good for us and society or what is not good - we have the right to be seperate.

[eCitizen]

I thought Steven LeDrew, CityTV political talking head (and past president of the Liberal party) had an interesting idea...

Ford has a long standing family tradition of going to the cottage on Canada Day. Maybe he can show his support by cutting the ribbon on the opening of Gay Pride day.

I don't agree with LeDrew, but it might give Ford a way to mollify the gays who are very clearly seeing this as a human rights challenge. Watch for Rob Ford to show up at either an opening ceremony (voluntarily) or as a caricature for ridicule in the gay pride parade (involuntarily).

My personal opinion : anybody who runs for mayor of one of the largest cities in North America should be ready to give up "Family Time". Many people who live and work in the Big Smoke have to do the same and for much less glory.

[eCitizen]

To further elaborate on my post...

Shouldn't we be applying some sort of test to these kinds of situations? Here's my suggestion...

Test 1 : are they attacking anybody else or is their message only positive to their own issue?

Test 2 : are they causing more economic harm than benefit?

[treehugger]

Because a person is mayor of a city doesn't mean he has to be available for every request that comes to him. He gets hundreds of requests a week. Being Mayor has nothing to do with a homosexual parade. He is here to run the city . There are several polls online within Toronto, radio and tv stations and newspapers and the votes were, between them all,from 72% to 93% said "you don't have to be in the parade."

Family comes before anybody or anything.

Edited June 28, 2011 by treehugger

[Shwa]

Say I just read that. This latest news item that Mr. Ford won't attend the parade caused me to come back to this thread.

Sure it did.

Now in regards to 1, I had no idea Shwa was a faux fag hag double spirit bilingual.

Don't drink and drug and then post. It doesn't improve your abilities.

Now in regards to 2, Shwa darling, since when does the Toronto Arts Council collect funding from the city government to engage in anti Zionist parades. Did I miss something dear?

I don't know, have you bothered to look?

Lol. Fled like a pup. Get it right Shwa, I am referred to as a Canaan Dog.

"like a pup" Drinking and drugging doesn't improve your English comprehension either.

[Oleg Bach]

Because a person is mayor of a city doesn't mean he has to be available for every request that comes to him. He gets hundreds of requests a week. Being Mayor has nothing to do with a homosexual parade. He is here to run the city . There are several polls online within Toronto, radio and tv stations and newspapers and the votes were, between them all,from 72% to 91% said "you don't have to be in the parade."

Family comes before anybody or anything.

Now that the liberal city state has fallen - and those left wing facist types that attempt to intice you to think all is good and we are all one_ have lost some of their social and poltical clout...a new Toronto is rising that does not look like Rome in decline. Ford does not need the gay vote or the vote of any special interest groups including unions. It seems that the left over youth of Toronto liberalism still cling to the premise that if you do not agree with everything and everyone - you are a bad person and a hate monger.

- Ford does not hate anyone...he just has his own personal preference to what he enjoys and what he finds boring and perhaps unpleasant. Being a free choice society - Ford has the right to choose the act of drinking beer - taking the boat out ---- frying some steaks and kicking back - I would rather be at the cottage than being a phoney like the former mayor Miller who would do anything to garner support. Besides a bunch of old guys jacked up on E and cocaine - wearing leather chaps with the butt cut out is not my idea of a good time - No matter HOW politically correct is is suppose to be. Let Ford be a man and let the rest be what they are - Live and let live...apparently some do not think like Ford. They want to persecute him because he is old school...and a tradtiionalist.

[eCitizen]

Now that the liberal city state has fallen - and those left wing facist types that attempt to intice you to think all is good and we are all one_ have lost some of their social and poltical clout...a new Toronto is rising that does not look like Rome in decline. Ford does not need the gay vote or the vote of any special interest groups including unions. It seems that the left over youth of Toronto liberalism still cling to the premise that if you do not agree with everything and everyone - you are a bad person and a hate monger.

- Ford does not hate anyone...he just has his own personal preference to what he enjoys and what he finds boring and perhaps unpleasant. Being a free choice society - Ford has the right to choose the act of drinking beer - taking the boat out ---- frying some steaks and kicking back - I would rather be at the cottage than being a phoney like the former mayor Miller who would do anything to garner support. Besides a bunch of old guys jacked up on E and cocaine - wearing leather chaps with the butt cut out is not my idea of a good time - No matter HOW politically correct is is suppose to be. Let Ford be a man and let the rest be what they are - Live and let live...apparently some do not think like Ford. They want to persecute him because he is old school...and a tradtiionalist.

Hey, there are all kinds of people who would prefer kicking back with a beer and few good steaks as opposed to showing up for work.

What a stupid argument.

By the way. I looked at your profile. Jeebus. What a narcissist!

Edited June 25, 2011 by eCitizen

[bloodyminded]

Now in regards to 1, I had no idea Shwa was a faux fag hag double spirit bilingual.

Now in my case I am always around to tell you the majority of us do not want to fund some pathetic affected spoiled child having tantrums about Zionism while wearing his thongs.

As for Mr. Ford not wanting to attend I will speak to him. He told me he is afraid one of your friends will try pinch his buttox.

Someone's hatred of homosexuals (or of homosexual men, at any rate) is becoming a prominent theme, I see.

Edited June 26, 2011 by bloodyminded

[jbg]

The transformation of Rue into Oleg Blach II is now complete.

For once we agree.

[jbg]

Deleted. Reposted here (link).

Edited June 26, 2011 by jbg

[Rue]

The transformation of Rue into Oleg Blach II is now complete.

There is and can only be one Oleg Bach.

I think its great for gays and anyone who wants to join them.

When you think of it Rob Ford could pass as an aging lesbian.

[Rue]

Someone's hatred of homosexuals (or of homosexual men, at any rate) is becoming a prominent theme, I see.

Someone's assumptions and absolute lack of humour and self righteous pronouncements are also evident.

Show one word that states I hate gays. You assume. You assume because I can not stand self righteous self entitled meely mouthed fools who try dominate gay pride for their own narrow selfish narcissistic idiotic displays.

Don't you dare throw the gay card at me because I call out pathetic,passive aggressive little snots who try hi-jack the events. My comments are directed and have always been directed at phony, two faced cowards who try hide behind behind being gay to spew ati-semitic pap.

You want to try defend these fools as displaying their gay rights go ahead. As many gays as straights feel the same way about these asps. It has nothing to do with them being gay.

Save the self righteous labels by the way for yourself.

If you can't laugh at thongs and large breasts go have Oleg Bach explain why both could be the subject of humour without being anti gay.

[Rue]

For once we agree.

I am proud to be called Oleg Bach the second. I doubt you could fathom why.

[bloodyminded]

Someone's assumptions and absolute lack of humour and self righteous pronouncements are also evident.

Have you even looked over your own sanctimonious posts, loaded with insults?

But hey, you also continually excuse yourself for being insulting...which somehow sets you apart from those who fling your bile back at you.

Show one word that states I hate gays. You assume. You assume because I can not stand self righteous self entitled meely mouthed fools who try dominate gay pride for their own narrow selfish narcissistic idiotic displays.

Don't you dare throw the gay card at me because I call out pathetic,passive aggressive little snots who try hi-jack the events. My comments are directed and have always been directed at phony, two faced cowards who try hide behind behind being gay to spew ati-semitic pap.

If you don't want to be perceived as a homophobe, then try to reign in your rhetoric. As much as you think your moral righteousness is self-evident, the rest of us can only read what you write and go from there.

Oh, and I "dare," no matter what the mighty Rue proclaims.

You want to try defend these fools as displaying their gay rights go ahead. As many gays as straights feel the same way about these asps. It has nothing to do with them being gay.

I would have thought so too; you're the one who married the two qualities in the posts from which I quoted you.

If you can't laugh at thongs and large breasts go have Oleg Bach explain why both could be the subject of humour without being anti gay.

Well, hey, great example, there, Rue: Oleg is openly and admittedly anti-gay. He says so.

Now, I suppose your problems with literacy are also my fault?

Edited June 26, 2011 by bloodyminded

[Oleg Bach]

Hey, there are all kinds of people who would prefer kicking back with a beer and few good steaks as opposed to showing up for work.

What a stupid argument.

By the way. I looked at your profile. Jeebus. What a narcissist!

SO WHAT! mY narcistic character is well deserved - I am a very talented guy and have done things in my life what other only dream of...I know who and what I am and am not...besides profiles are fleeting....I might not be a narcisist today...as compared to back then ...now that we have your ego out of the way and expecting Ford to do his job...He's the mayor and he was not elected by the gay lesbian and transgender folks...They dispised him during the election ...so why spend time with those that hate you -----------the gay left...can be quiet nasty -- remember not all of them are wonderful people - as a lot of blind people are not angels or saint ........

During father day I ran into a gay couple in the liquor store - I was with my two daughers and I don't mind these two guys...besides they bought one of my paintings a while back - they respect me and I them for what they are.....One of my daughter suggested after an invite that we spend part of fathers day over at their swank patio....I declined - because it was father's day _ it was MY day and I wanted to spend it on my turf - not on gay turf...

Much like Ford - his family is more important than politcal duty or correctness.

[Oleg Bach]

Ford does not have to like what he personally does not like. Why should he be forced to be a phoney? He's a hetro-sexual - a family man. What is the point of going to an event or putting in a good word to fund it if he finds the sight of some people disturbing and perhaps unsightly - he is not MILLER - who would do anything for a vote. It's not that the guy has a "phobia" -He just does not want to be part of something that can take care of itself and not be dependant on the fear factor - of being a person that wants EVERY BODY - to like him - and besides - the gay and lesbian vote is no longer of consequence. There is no politcal advantage - there might have been with the pandering MILLER..but miller is gone - things change,,,, get use to it!

[Shady]

Taxpayer money is not be "given to" special groups here. It's a grant to deliver a product, in this case an event that brings millions of dollars into the local economy. Your answer lies in there somewhere.

The product could still generate millions without any grants. There's no need for the tax handout anymore. The fact that they still receive one is purely political.