Smallc Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 You don't know if it's a so-called waste of resources. Doctor's have varying opinions. Yes, they do, but the doctors that were providing care obviously feel quite strong. Quote
Jack Weber Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Just as appropriate. It does kind go to the "mindlessness factor",does'nt it?? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Dithers Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 No worries....I have been called worse by better people - PET I'm sure you have been called worse. I've only known you for the amount of time it took to read your Palinesque mouthfart. I can only imagine what people would have to say who have the misfortune of being in contact with your claptrap on a regular basis. Quote DEATHCAMPS BLARG USA! USA! USA!
Jack Weber Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) I'm sure you have been called worse. I've only known you for the amount of time it took to read your Palinesque mouthfart. I can only imagine what people would have to say who have the misfortune of being in contact with your claptrap on a regular basis. Two words...False chiclets.... Edited February 24, 2011 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 I'm sure you have been called worse. I've only known you for the amount of time it took to read your Palinesque mouthfart. I can only imagine what people would have to say who have the misfortune of being in contact with your claptrap on a regular basis. It's all good....I don't take myself as seriously as smug Canadians like yourself. After 20,000 posts, you are just another speed bump. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Dithers Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) It's all good....I don't take myself as seriously as smug Canadians like yourself. After 20,000 posts, you are just another speed bump. Did you know there is a positive correlation between post count and penis size? Only in America! Edited February 24, 2011 by Dithers Quote DEATHCAMPS BLARG USA! USA! USA!
Jack Weber Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Did you know there is a positive correlation between post count and penis size? Only in America! It's the epitome of Manifest Destiny... He's the boards John Holmes wannabe... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) Did you know there is a positive correlation between post count and penis size? Only in America! America is important to you...you keep watching its larger penis. Edited February 24, 2011 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 It's the epitome of Manifest Destiny... He's the boards John Holmes wannabe... Mr. NFL-NCAA never misses an American reference. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Dithers Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 It's the epitome of Manifest Destiny... He's the boards John Holmes wannabe... Well, you know, after 94 posts, I just don't take these kinds of things seriously anymore. OH MY GOD DEATHCAMPS. DERP. DERP. You've got to rise above the rabble, you know? Quote DEATHCAMPS BLARG USA! USA! USA!
Dithers Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) America is important to you...you keep watching it's larger penis. Now if y'all could only get it up once in a while... Edited February 24, 2011 by Dithers Quote DEATHCAMPS BLARG USA! USA! USA!
Jack Weber Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Now if y'all could only get it up once in a while... How 'bout economically syphillitic penis... Like,we're not envious...We're horrified and look at it as a cautionary tale... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Now if y'all could only get it up once in a while... Or not at all. You'll be watching American TV either way. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Dithers Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Or not at all. You'll be watching American TV either way. No better way to gather information on America's southern neighbor, Canada. Quote DEATHCAMPS BLARG USA! USA! USA!
Jack Weber Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 No better way to gather information on America's southern neighbor, Canada. Wait a minute.. Miss Saskatchewan... Reigning Queen of the Regina Wheat Festival can't figure out directions on a compass??? The title is jeopardy!!! Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
William Ashley Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) Who cares --- are life support units in short demand? Do they not pay taxes? My geuss is that the life support unit isn't needed for someone else and if it was it would be a resource issue - otherwise why cause mental trauma to people? How much is this costing them - I bet their hospital bill for the birth of the baby made some doctors a few bucks. How many life support units are there , how many are needed - could another hospital lend one? Edited February 24, 2011 by William Ashley Quote I was here.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 The Great and Powerful OZ has ruled...this baby must die! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
jbg Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Nature dealt the baby a losing hand. Nothing can be done to save the baby, and prolonging its life at no small expense is ludicrous, just as it was ludicrous to prolong the life of Schiavo's whose cerebral cortex had long ago disappeared to be replaced with cerebral fluid. Exactly. The reality is that every system has rationing, and something that will do near nothing in a waste of resources. Totally agree. As heartbreaking as it is I'd rather make the resources available where a life can really be saved. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
bjre Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) Traditionally, children are cared by family. Now the government want to take care of all about children, how to educate them, how to treat them in hospital and others, the government is the dictator of you thought on children, you have no right on how to bring up your children, so that more and more children did not even learned how to control themselves, more become drug users, more indulged in absurd behaviors, more become criminals. Because parents has less and less right to have their own opinion, otherwise, they will face fascists: CAS, cops, court, judges, lawyers, jails, lost money, lost job, lost house, become mental disorder, suicide. Why the government want to remove your rights? Because there are powerful lobbies of interest groups that controls the government, they want more money, they ask you to pay more tax, and give money to those public services, such as cops, jails, hospitals, medical industry, CAS, court, lawyers and many more. When you bring your own children, you use less money and take better care, when in those services, they ask for much more money from your tax and take poor care because they are not their children, their goal is make money. This is current situation in "democracy" countries, actually, this is the so called "human right". In most non-"democracy" country, family have more right to decide how to bring up their own children. What is democracy?, democracy is powerful interest group dictators have the freedom to make laws to bully you. Edited February 24, 2011 by bjre Quote "The more laws, the less freedom" -- bjre "There are so many laws that nearly everybody breaks some, even when you just stay at home do nothing, the only question left is how thugs can use laws to attack you" -- bjre "If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." -- Thomas Jefferson
Evening Star Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Wonder if Fox will be as eager to report this: http://www.parentcentral.ca/parent/familyhealth/children%27shealth/article/943954--michigan-hospital-won-t-take-dying-windsor-baby Quote
Dithers Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 The Great and Powerful OZ has ruled...this baby must die! DEATHCAMPS! DERP! USA! PALIN! DEATHCAMPS! GOVERNMENT KILLING GRANDMOTHERS! DERP! This is not anybody ruling a baby must die. Grow up or learn to read, whichever applies. Quote DEATHCAMPS BLARG USA! USA! USA!
Shakeyhands Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Wonder if Fox will be as eager to report this: http://www.parentcentral.ca/parent/familyhealth/children%27shealth/article/943954--michigan-hospital-won-t-take-dying-windsor-baby I didn't see a reason given by the MI Hosp... Did I just miss it? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Smallc Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) I didn't see a reason given by the MI Hosp... Did I just miss it? But the doctors refused, saying it's not in the boy's best interests.Maraachli and his wife, Sana Nader, lost their appeal before an Ontario Superior Court judge last week to stop the removal of Joseph's breathing tube. Justice Helen Rady upheld an earlier decision by the Consent and Capacity Board of Ontario, an independent body, which ruled that Joseph's parents must consent to the tube's removal. However, the family stood their ground and refused consent Monday morning and said they wanted to move Joseph to the Detroit hospital, where he had been previously treated. From the article. It doesn't talk about what the Michigan hospital based their decision on, but, it's a pretty good bet that it has something to do with the above. Edited February 24, 2011 by Smallc Quote
scribblet Posted February 24, 2011 Author Report Posted February 24, 2011 What does DERP mean please.... a little more info from here I think, but it also begs the question: If the baby (or anyone else) reaches this tragic state, why are they put on life support in the first place? Sounds heartless I know, but considering what is being done here, it's no worse. I seem to remember around the time of the Terry Schiavo fiasco, watching an interview with someone about the use of life support systems. He said, it was never meant to sustain life indefinitely, it was only meant to be temporary life support machines enabling the patient to survive for a period of time until they are recovered from a problem. It is real ethical and moral dilemma, especially when it also comes down to costs and rationing. http://www.thesudburystar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2987022 Joseph's on a ventilator and fed through a tube. He's in what the doctors call "a persistent vegetative state." The doctors say he's blind and deaf. He's missing all five brain stem reflexes considered necessary for life -- gag, cough, eye movement, pupil and cornea responses. His brain deterioration is irreversible. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Topaz Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Here's the latest on this tragic case. http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/2011/02/23/17384581.html Quote
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