bud Posted October 5, 2010 Report Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxFlmXbzY3I http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/youtube-clip-shows-idf-soldier-belly-dancing-beside-bound-palestinian-woman-1.317177this is an example of the sickness of the israeli culture. human rights and compassion no longer exists. it has become a norm to treat palestinians and arabs like they're not worthy of respect and compassion. Edited October 29, 2010 by bud Quote http://whoprofits.org/
Topaz Posted October 5, 2010 Report Posted October 5, 2010 This is really sad and Israel should know better and it also shows that ALL people of these two countries no matter who they are , love torturing, making fun with each other and that's why they will hate each other forever. Does the Tories government think this is right? Would the Tory government ever criticize the government of Israel? Not before an election. Quote
jbg Posted October 12, 2010 Report Posted October 12, 2010 This is really sad and Israel should know better and it also shows that ALL people of these two countries no matter who they are , love torturing, making fun with each other and that's why they will hate each other forever. Does the Tories government think this is right? Would the Tory government ever criticize the government of Israel? Not before an election. Better than cutting his head off on the Internet. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
bud Posted October 13, 2010 Author Report Posted October 13, 2010 Better than cutting his head off on the Internet. is this what it has come down to? comparing these despicable acts by israel to the scum of the earth in order to justify their actions? leave it to you to always lower the bar, mr. radical leftist lawyer. you've been drinking way too much zionist pow juice tonight. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 Better than cutting his head off on the Internet. ...or Tazing a guy five times at the airport! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
jbg Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 is this what it has come down to? comparing these despicable acts by israel to the scum of the earth in order to justify their actions? leave it to you to always lower the bar, mr. radical leftist lawyer. you've been drinking way too much zionist pow juice tonight. My point is the acts by the Israelis are disagreeable but not despicable. It is a breakdown of military discipline and should be punished, by the Israelis as an independent country, as such. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
GostHacked Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 Good rhythm. But for me, it would work better with a decent electro-house beat. Mix that in with some tabla and a couple dhaks. Quote
ToadBrother Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 (edited) Better than cutting his head off on the Internet. Brilliant, absolutely f------ brilliant. Right on the money. I have a hard time feeling sorry for a terrorist being mocked. Edited October 13, 2010 by ToadBrother Quote
bloodyminded Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 (edited) Brilliant, absolutely f------ brilliant. Right on the money. I have a hard time feeling sorry for a terrorist being mocked. How do you know she was a terrorist? Edited October 13, 2010 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
GostHacked Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 How do you know he was a terrorist? Indeed, no context or back story really. The article does not mention terrorist in any way. Quote
dre Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 My point is the acts by the Israelis are disagreeable but not despicable. It is a breakdown of military discipline and should be punished, by the Israelis as an independent country, as such. My point is the acts by the Israelis are disagreeable but not despicable. My guess is that if the roles were reversed in that video youd be just fine with the adjective "despicable". Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
bloodyminded Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 My guess is that if the roles were reversed in that video youd be just fine with the adjective "despicable". There are a handful of countries--Israel is one of them--who are to be held, so I understand, to far lower standards than official enemies are to be held. Get with the program, Dre. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
jbg Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 There are a handful of countries--Israel is one of them--who are to be held, so I understand, to far lower standards than official enemies are to be held. Get with the program, Dre. You're saying that Israel is held to lower standards than other countries? How? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
dre Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 You're saying that Israel is held to lower standards than other countries? How? From what I can tell Israel isnt held to any standards at all. They arent even held to treaties theyve signed in good faith. They can do pretty much whatever they like with no real consequences. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 14, 2010 Report Posted October 14, 2010 ...They can do pretty much whatever they like with no real consequences. Pretty much...just like Canada and the United States. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Moonlight Graham Posted October 14, 2010 Report Posted October 14, 2010 This is really sad and Israel should know better and it also shows that ALL people of these two countries no matter who they are , love torturing, making fun with each other and that's why they will hate each other forever. You think that's is torture? It's a victory dance. Much better than a victory slap or a victory rape or a victory naked human pyramid. But overall an unwise/unprofessional display. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
bloodyminded Posted October 14, 2010 Report Posted October 14, 2010 (edited) You're saying that Israel is held to lower standards than other countries? How? It has nothing to do with Israel per se. It's that defenders of Israel, exactly like defenders of the US and Canada (if anything, moreso with the latter two), will always hold their own countries to lower standards. Do you not remember our discussion on US and Canadian support for terrorism? You, jbg, ultimatley decided that terrorism is sometimes justifiable. You're by no means the only one. Which places our discussions on terrorism in general in an entirely new paradigm. Terrorism isn't wrong, evidently, not in and of itself. Edited October 14, 2010 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
eyeball Posted October 14, 2010 Report Posted October 14, 2010 From what I can tell Israel isnt held to any standards at all. They arent even held to treaties theyve signed in good faith. They can do pretty much whatever they like with no real consequences. Pretty much...just like Canada and the United States. 9/11 was a consequence, pretty much. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted October 14, 2010 Report Posted October 14, 2010 It has nothing to do with Israel per se. It's that defenders of Israel, exactly like defenders of the US and Canada (if anything, moreso with the latter two), will always hold their own countries to lower standards. Do you not remember our discussion on US and Canadian support for terrorism? You, jbg, ultimatley decided that terrorism is sometimes justifiable. You're by no means the only one. Which places our discussions on terrorism in general in an entirely new paradigm. Terrorism isn't wrong, evidently, not in and of itself. Doesn't it put it back in the paradigm it belongs? One side's terrorist is just another's freedom fighter. Go ask the British and the Sons of Liberty for example. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bloodyminded Posted October 14, 2010 Report Posted October 14, 2010 (edited) Doesn't it put it back in the paradigm it belongs? One side's terrorist is just another's freedom fighter. Go ask the British and the Sons of Liberty for example. Sure...I meant--being a generous man--that from the point of view of those who condemn terrorism as wanton evil (so long as it's Islamist) their sudden admittal that they support and defend terrorism ("for the greater good" of course) should change the paradigm of the discussion with them. Of course they've always supported terrorism. It's just good to have them admit it, eschewing their usual moral cowardice and lust for meaningless debating "points." Edited October 14, 2010 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
jbg Posted October 14, 2010 Report Posted October 14, 2010 You, jbg, ultimatley decided that terrorism is sometimes justifiable. You're by no means the only one.I'm not denying that but remind me of the context. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
bud Posted October 14, 2010 Author Report Posted October 14, 2010 How do you know she was a terrorist? it's too complicated for these simple creatures to not see the world as black and white. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
DogOnPorch Posted October 14, 2010 Report Posted October 14, 2010 it's too complicated for these simple creatures to not see the world as black and white. I'm sure she was just out for a pack of smokes when she was brutally arrested. That's what Israelis do...dance around assault innocent people. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bud Posted October 15, 2010 Author Report Posted October 15, 2010 I'm sure she was just out for a pack of smokes when she was brutally arrested. That's what Israelis do...dance around assault innocent people. #1 - whether she's a criminal or not, what this soldier did to this blindfolded woman, is not only illegal, but it's also another sign of a sick culture of the israeli military. #2 - you don't know and i don't know why she's being held for. what we do know is that israel has a well-documented history of arresting palestinians and abusing their rights. these soldiers would never treat an israeli this way. correction; quite possible they'd hold the same disrespect and hate towards a palestinian-israeli. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
jbg Posted October 15, 2010 Report Posted October 15, 2010 #2 - you don't know and i don't know why she's being held for. what we do know is that israel has a well-documented history of arresting palestinians and abusing their rights. these soldiers would never treat an israeli this way. correction; quite possible they'd hold the same disrespect and hate towards a palestinian-israeli. The Israelis treat their captives better than Gilad Shalit has been treated. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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