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http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=186640

One of the volunteers at the scene discovered that one of the victims was his wife, already dead. I can't even begin to imagine what he must have felt.

With direct peace talks coming up, the Palestinians are, once again, trying as hard as they can not to miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

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Clearly there are extremists who do not want a successful peace process and that's exactly why it is so important for this process to take place. The problem is, there are people who oppose peace, on both sides of the fence, both palistinian and israeli as well as third parties, and violent attacks of this nature benefit them all. It is vital to identify them as extremists, and not let down the people who are ordinary law abiding citizens of both countries, who deserve the right to live in peace and security, and depend on their governments to do this.

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http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=186640

One of the volunteers at the scene discovered that one of the victims was his wife, already dead. I can't even begin to imagine what he must have felt.

With direct peace talks coming up, the Palestinians are, once again, trying as hard as they can not to miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

Both sides are doing their share to wreck any peace talks, with the spiritual leader of one of Netenyahu's largest coalition partners openly calling for genocide.

I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger

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Both sides are doing their share to wreck any peace talks, with the spiritual leader of one of Netenyahu's largest coalition partners openly calling for genocide.

Yes, should we recall those thousands of "unprovoked" units that were and are being constructed in frenzy in months?

No that was nothing to do with any opportunities missed or otherwise, just a frindly entirely peaceful landgrab that should have been met with full understanding and perhaps, even applause. After all, that's what we ourselves do if somebody's attempted to come take our land.. like e.g in Afghanistan.

If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant

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Clearly there are extremists who do not want a successful peace process and that's exactly why it is so important for this process to take place. The problem is, there are people who oppose peace, on both sides of the fence, both palistinian and israeli as well as third parties, and violent attacks of this nature benefit them all. It is vital to identify them as extremists, and not let down the people who are ordinary law abiding citizens of both countries, who deserve the right to live in peace and security, and depend on their governments to do this.

This is something I've been noting since the 80s. Spot on good Sir.

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Can someone clear something up for me ???

From the article quoted in the OP.

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu heard about the the Hamas shooting attack in the West Bank which killed four Israelis along Route 60 while en route to Washington to relaunch direct talks with the Palestinians, and said upon landing that he would tell US Secretary of State Hilary Clinton that this “criminal attack” proves again the need for Israel to stand steadfastly by its security demands.

Why would they travel to the West Bank in order to get a flight to Washington? Why would any Israeli travel in the West Bank? Would you not be creating your own problem by doing just that?

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Why would they travel to the West Bank in order to get a flight to Washington? Why would any Israeli travel in the West Bank? Would you not be creating your own problem by doing just that?

I think the PM was en route to Washington, not the Israelis that were killed. I think it was poorly written, and definitely confusing.

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http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=186640

One of the volunteers at the scene discovered that one of the victims was his wife, already dead. I can't even begin to imagine what he must have felt.

With direct peace talks coming up, the Palestinians are, once again, trying as hard as they can not to miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

The killings is inexcusable even if they're occupiers who not only steal Palestinian land, but also engage in continuous abuse of Palestinians.

What is also inexcusable is you jumping on the news of the killings while continuously, either trying to justify the multiple attacks and vandalism by settlers and the IDF towards the Palestinians or pretending it doesn't happen.

You are a hasbara-bot. For your sake, I just hope that you're at least getting paid:

The Foreign Ministry unveiled a new plan this week: Paying talkbackers to post pro-Israel responses on websites worldwide. A total of NIS 600,000 (roughly $150,000) will be earmarked to the establishment of an “Internet warfare” squad.

The Foreign Ministry intends to hire young people who speak at least one language and who study communication, political science, or law – or alternately, Israelis with military experience gained at units dealing with information analysis.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3744516,00.html

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You are a hasbara-bot. For your sake, I just hope that you're at least getting paid:

The Foreign Ministry intends to hire young people who speak at least one language and who study communication, political science, or law – or alternately, Israelis with military experience gained at units dealing with information analysis.[/b]

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3744516,00.html

I don't meet those qualifications. My field of study is not among those listed and I am not an Israeli and do not have military experience. You're right though, if I could get money for posting what I post anyway, I'd sign up :)

trying to justify the multiple attacks and vandalism by settlers

Where have I ever done that?

The killings is inexcusable even if they're occupiers who not only steal Palestinian land, but also engage in continuous abuse of Palestinians.

I like how even your statement of agreement with the inexcusability of this shooting is really yet another condemntation of Israel. Who is the bot again? You can't even come out and say one whole sentence conveying the meaning "shooting bad" without also trashing on Israel.

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About 3000 people joined a rally in Gaza to celebrate the attack. Hamas military wing spokesman Abu Obeida was among them and told The Associated Press: "The Qassam Brigades announces its full responsibility for the heroic operation in Hebron."

Another Hamas spokesman, Sami Abu Zuhri, said in a statement: "Hamas blesses the Hebron operation and considers it as a normal reaction to the occupation crime." link

So shooting innocent people in a car, leaving children orphaned, is a "heroic operation."

I can just imagine what the outrage would be like if Israelis drove along side a car of Palestinians and opened fire and shot all of the people in the car. And then 3000 Israelis celebrated the deliberate act. Referring to it as "heroic." And an Israeli spokesperson said it was a "normal reaction" to the conflict. And gave his blessings.

Hillary Clinton: "We pledge to do all we can, always, to protect and defend the State of Israel and to provide security to the Israeli people."

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I don't meet those qualifications. My field of study is not among those listed and I am not an Israeli and do not have military experience. You're right though, if I could get money for posting what I post anyway, I'd sign up :)

Where have I ever done that?

I like how even your statement of agreement with the inexcusability of this shooting is really yet another condemntation of Israel. Who is the bot again? You can't even come out and say one whole sentence conveying the meaning "shooting bad" without also trashing on Israel.

Isn't she a joy? Careful with this one. If she doesn't like what you say she'll try to have you banned.

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Murder should never be eccepted as a normal occurance - I did notice that the pictures of the authorities at the scene of the crime acted jaded and it was buisness as usual - I guess that four dead Jews will lead to 400 dead Palistinians or anyone else that is handy - This racism and idea that a Jew is worth a thousand non-jews is bizzare and arrogant...and is part of the problem..every last human being whether it be the lowest of the low or the highest of the high are worth EXACTLY THE SAME.

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About 3000 people joined a rally in Gaza to celebrate the attack.

Pretty disgusting to celebrate killing people, isn't it? Wasn't there a huge rally in New York after Israel attacked Gaza and killed hundreds of civilians? Of course, the same thing happened in Israel.

But of course you're okay with that, because you're a hasbara-bot.

Hamas military wing spokesman Abu Obeida was among them and told The Associated Press: "The Qassam Brigades announces its full responsibility for the heroic operation in Hebron."

Another Hamas spokesman, Sami Abu Zuhri, said in a statement: "Hamas blesses the Hebron operation and considers it as a normal reaction to the occupation crime." link

So shooting innocent people in a car, leaving children orphaned, is a "heroic operation."

I can just imagine what the outrage would be like if Israelis drove along side a car of Palestinians and opened fire and shot all of the people in the car. And then 3000 Israelis celebrated the deliberate act. Referring to it as "heroic." And an Israeli spokesperson said it was a "normal reaction" to the conflict. And gave his blessings.

Hillary Clinton: "We pledge to do all we can, always, to protect and defend the State of Israel and to provide security to the Israeli people."

Your words would have meaning if you condemned Israel's attack on Gazans which left 1000 civilians dead. Many of these civilians were killed indiscriminately as it has been proved through many investigations and as it has been repeated by IDF soldiers.

You're a bad person for being selective in your outrage for civilian deaths.

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These are the settlers that some of these Palestinians have to live with, on their land. Of course, Bonam and American Woman don't find a need to condemn it:

You are a sick person if you don't find these acts to be wrong.

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These are the settlers that some of these Palestinians have to live with, on their land. Of course, Bonam and American Woman don't find a need to condemn it:

You are a sick person if you don't find these acts to be wrong.

Why do you feel the need to be an apologist for arab terror?

RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS

If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us

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Can someone clear something up for me ???

Why would they travel to the West Bank in order to get a flight to Washington? Why would any Israeli travel in the West Bank? Would you not be creating your own problem by doing just that?

Why were these Israelis traveling in the West Bank to begin with?

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Why do you feel the need to be an apologist for arab terror?

Where was there an apology for Arab terror?

I have already said, in my first post, in the first line that the act is inexcusable. Why do you have problems reading?

Pointing out that people like Bonam, American Woman and yourself should be the last people to be spokesmen for condemnation of killing of civilians due to your inability to condemn them across the board, is not apologizing for Arab terror.

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Where was there an apology for Arab terror?

I have already said, in my first post, in the first line that the act is inexcusable. Why do you have problems reading?

Yes the first post...and then every post afterwards you apologize for it....holding up examples to show...what exactly?

The apology for the terror.

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Guest American Woman
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Why were these Israelis traveling in the West Bank to begin with?

Why does it matter? What does it have to do with anything?

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Why were these Israelis traveling in the West Bank to begin with?

They weren't. It was Nethayahoo who was on the way to the airport.

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Pretty disgusting to celebrate killing people, isn't it? Wasn't there a huge rally in New York after Israel attacked Gaza and killed hundreds of civilians? Of course, the same thing happened in Israel.

But of course you're okay with that, because you're a hasbara-bot.

Your words would have meaning if you condemned Israel's attack on Gazans which left 1000 civilians dead. Many of these civilians were killed indiscriminately as it has been proved through many investigations and as it has been repeated by IDF soldiers.

You're a bad person for being selective in your outrage for civilian deaths.

Oh noooooo! Naomiglover thinks I'm a bad person! :rolleyes:

I recognize that there seems to be a real problem with reading/understanding what people say around here, but I was clearly referring to the deliberate act of going out, purposely targeting innocent people, seeking civilians, and then PURPOSELY KILLING THEM. And then, CELEBRATING THE DELIBERATE CIVILIAN DEATHS and CALLING IT "HEROIC." Maybe that's your idea of heroic, but it ain't mine. You have nothing from Israel to "compare" it to, so take your false accusations and selective outrage and shove it. <_<

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