Canada's democracy, just a dirty game

[bjre]

No one seems care about issues.

Corporate controlled media full of dirty.

Someone arrested, someone charged, some one use city logo.

It seems like a game pretty amusing.

Then just vote, like a blind person.

And let the winner decide issues that can make your life harder.

And let the winners decide how much their own salary increase.

That is so called democracy.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/torontomayoralrace/article/850648--ford-in-fresh-trouble?bn=1

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/torontomayoralrace/article/850324--mayoral-candidate-sarah-thomson-faced-assault-charge-in-1999

[ToadBrother]

No one seems care about issues.

Corporate controlled media full of dirty.

Someone arrested, someone charged, some one use city logo.

It seems like a game pretty amusing.

Then just vote, like a blind person.

And let the winner decide issues that can make your life harder.

And let the winners decide how much their own salary increase.

That is so called democracy.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/torontomayoralrace/article/850648--ford-in-fresh-trouble?bn=1

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/torontomayoralrace/article/850324--mayoral-candidate-sarah-thomson-faced-assault-charge-in-1999

I get it, it's free verse poetry.

[bush_cheney2004]

Mark Twain.....another great Canadian!

[P. McGee]

The reference seems to be to a Mark Twain short story, in which Twain runs for governor. A variety of apparently baseless accusations against him are circulated in the press by his opponents and he eventually withdraws, unable to bring himself to respond to the accusations directly.

http://www.readbookonline.net/readOnLine/1282/

[P. McGee]

As far as I can tell, the trend with these bjre threads is that he(?) takes a news story relating to Toronto's election campaign, uses it to make some vague generalizations about democracy in Canada being corrupt or undesirable somehow, and then ends up having to spend the rest of the thread defending why he thinks China's system is better. Although Rob Ford's candidacy would seem to play a key role in this, I still have no idea whether bjre has any opinions on Ford specifically.

[bush_cheney2004]

As far as I can tell, the trend with these bjre threads is that he(?) takes a news story relating to Toronto's election campaign, uses it to make some vague generalizations about democracy in Canada being corrupt or undesirable somehow, and then ends up having to spend the rest of the thread defending why he thinks China's system is better. Although Rob Ford's candidacy would seem to play a key role in this, I still have no idea whether bjre has any opinions on Ford specifically.

But you have to give him credit for invoking a solid American reference just like any other Canadian...you know...for added credibility!

[P. McGee]

But you have to give him credit for invoking a solid American reference just like any other Canadian...you know...for added credibility!

Maybe a Pierre Berton quote could be drudged up for bonus CanCon points. Seriously though I liked the story.

[xul]

No one seems care about issues.

Corporate controlled media full of dirty.

Someone arrested, someone charged, some one use city logo.

It seems like a game pretty amusing.

Then just vote, like a blind person.

And let the winner decide issues that can make your life harder.

And let the winners decide how much their own salary increase.

That is so called democracy.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/torontomayoralrace/article/850648--ford-in-fresh-trouble?bn=1

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/torontomayoralrace/article/850324--mayoral-candidate-sarah-thomson-faced-assault-charge-in-1999

If you can conclude that Canada's democracy is just a dirty game just because a few politicians misused their official-titled letter paper, logically Canadian can also conclude that all Chinese Canadian include you are some homicidal maniacs because of a few events like this Accused in bus slaying ordered to get psychiatric assessment

[bjre]

If you can conclude that Canada's democracy is just a dirty game just because a few politicians misused their official-titled letter paper, logically Canadian can also conclude that all Chinese Canadian include you are some homicidal maniacs because of a few events like this Accused in bus slaying ordered to get psychiatric assessment

Is this racist speech? Is this hate crime? Is this defamation? I have no idea what make you talk like that. Are you, your father, and your mother all homicidal maniacs, is that the reason for you to talk like that?

[ToadBrother]

Is this racist speech? Is this hate crime? Is this defamation? I have no idea what make you talk like that. Are you, your father, and your mother all homicidal maniacs, is that the reason for you to talk like that?

It's simply your logic applied to your homeland. If you don't like that, then stop using the same fallacious reasoning yourself.

[August1991]

What is this thread doing in the Federal Politics category?

The OP has links to two Toronto Star articles about the municipal election in Toronto, and the thread title has a reference to Mark Twain, and the originating poster's signature has a quote of Thomas Jefferson.

I'm reminded of the Toronto Film Festival: a bunch of Americans come to Toronto, and people in Toronto somehow think that makes them great. Or something.

[bjre]

It's simply your logic applied to your homeland. If you don't like that, then stop using the same fallacious reasoning yourself.

That is not my logic, when Mark Twain wrote that story, I was not even born.

And look at this:

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/torontomayoralrace/article/850753--liberals-scramble-to-help-george-smitherman-stop-rob-ford?bn=1

Again only blame others, nothing about constructive problem solving again.

Dirty games, that is so called democracy.

By the way, you and xul seems good at the same thing.

Edited August 22, 2010 by bjre

[P. McGee]

That is not my logic, when Mark Twain wrote that story, I was not even born.

But you seem to be making some association between Twain's story and the newspaper articles you quoted. Do you believe that the accusations against Ford are untrue or just irrelevant to the task of governing? Should his (admittedly old) drunk driving charge for example be off the discussion table just to avoid "dirty politics"?

[bjre]

But you seem to be making some association between Twain's story and the newspaper articles you quoted. Do you believe that the accusations against Ford are untrue or just irrelevant to the task of governing? Should his (admittedly old) drunk driving charge for example be off the discussion table just to avoid "dirty politics"?

No, I don't know if that is true or not and I don't care.

What I care about is how will he solve the problems we face, how to make our life earlier instead of harder.

But I did not find corporate controlled media focus on that, I think they are more interested in blame others and discover dirty.

Edited August 22, 2010 by bjre

[P. McGee]

No, I don't know if that is true or not and I don't care.

What I care about is how will he solve the problems we face, how to make our life earlier instead of harder.

But I did not find corporate controlled media focus on that, I think they are more interested in blame others and discover dirty.

But since we can't predict the future, a person's past actions must be considered in judging the likelihood that they will do what they say. Is there some 'ideal' system in the world where perceived character plays no role in choosing candidates to fill important positions? That doesn't sound ideal to me.

Edited August 22, 2010 by P. McGee

[bjre]

But since we can't predict the future, a person's past actions must be considered in judging the likelihood that they will do what they say. Is there some 'ideal' system in the world where perceived character plays no role in choosing candidates to fill important positions? That doesn't sound ideal to me.

Better a diamond with a flaw, than a pebble without.

[Michael Hardner]

This board is evidence that people do care about issues.

[bjre]

This board is evidence that people do care about issues.

There are people do care.

But corporate controlled media care about their own interest and they have great affection to many people that is efficient to change the result of vote.

Edited August 26, 2010 by bjre

[M.Dancer]

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