DogOnPorch Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 I don't believe I'm a "lefty" but I am capable of comprehending the depth of hatred felt, by so many in the Jewish world also. The hatred is stoked by the policy of their governments, yes. This is like a war, neither side loves the other. So are you going to pick sides? Because that really won't help to solve the problem. Forgiveness is not one of their major traits. Love the cheers at the end... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 (edited) Random violence is not one of the Jews' major traits either. I believe Mr Bandelot is being a relativist, again. You know...the Jews had to have pissed Hitler off for their to have been death camps. If they had only not made him so angry... Edited October 24, 2010 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
jbg Posted October 24, 2010 Author Report Posted October 24, 2010 Love the cheers at the end... Simians clap as well. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
DogOnPorch Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 Simians clap as well. Islam cheers about odd things... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlLqG1wQsTE Big crowds...I imagine there must be some moderates...eh? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Sir Bandelot Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 My condemnation of the attitude of SOME jews does not equate with approval of the attitude of SOME muslims. That is the part thats so difficult for you simians to understand... Quote
DogOnPorch Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 My condemnation of the attitude of SOME jews does not equate with approval of the attitude of SOME muslims. That is the part thats so difficult for you simians to understand... Your relativism is noted. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Sir Bandelot Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 Your relativism is noted. No, YOUR relativism is noted. I condemn them even more than you. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 No, YOUR relativism is noted. I condemn them even more than you. Relativism = no absolute truth. As such, relativism as a reality exists only on paper. Example: Jim shoots John with a gun after John makes Jim angry. Whose fault was the shooting? John's Jim's or the gun maker's? Relativists claim all three. Reality shows Jim shot John...period. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Sir Bandelot Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 Reality shows Jim shot John...period. For the one icident in itself, Jim shot John. Reality also shows John screwed Jims wife. Quote
GostHacked Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 Relativism = no absolute truth. As such, relativism as a reality exists only on paper. You hate all religions, but pick on the Muslims the most. And you want to talk about relativism? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 For the one icident in itself, Jim shot John. Reality also shows John screwed Jims wife. You're saying the act of John cheating on Jim caused the shooting which is relativism...again. The shooting was actually caused by Jim pulling the trigger of the gun. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 You hate all religions, but pick on the Muslims the most. And you want to talk about relativism? I've always claimed Islam sucks. As the third and apparently final chapter of the Abrahamic religions, it demands a special sort of respect that I'm not willing to give. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Sir Bandelot Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 You're saying the act of John cheating on Jim caused the shooting which is relativism...again. The shooting was actually caused by Jim pulling the trigger of the gun. No I'm saying humans get excited when bad things happen to them, and do even worse things. But I don't approve of that. You're saying, only the last, most recent act committed is the one that matters. I reject that argument too, because it does not lead to a permanent solution, only more of the same naive attitude that perpetuates the problem. I call you and JBG naive because, a child thinks about the problems of the immediate moment, not what happened before, or what will happen next. So rather than "take sides" in an ancient conflict, one should try to get both of these people to stop blaming each other for their fathers mistakes, and not repeat them. But I don't have much "hope" for any solution, partly because most of them are exactly like you two. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 (edited) No I'm saying humans get excited when bad things happen to them, and do even worse things. What was the Israeli response to Hamas killing the car full of settlers...one of them pregnant? It must be worse... But I don't approve of that. You're saying, only the last, most recent act committed is the one that matters. I reject that argument too, because it does not lead to a permanent solution, only more of the same naive attitude that perpetuates the problem. I call you and JBG naive because, a child thinks about the problems of the immediate moment, not what happened before, or what will happen next. It was up to Jim to escalate the situation to the point where a gun was pulled and used. So rather than "take sides" in an ancient conflict, one should try to get both of these people to stop blaming each other for their fathers mistakes, and not repeat them. But I don't have much "hope" for any solution, partly because most of them are exactly like you two. Relativism only works on paper. There are no relativists in foxholes. Edited October 24, 2010 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 I've always claimed Islam sucks. As the third and apparently final chapter of the Abrahamic religions, it demands a special sort of respect that I'm not willing to give. Yea, it's even causing a problem for our illegal immigrants at work....they complain that the prayer time ritual for Islam (washing your junk) makes for a maintenance disaster in the rest rooms. "If I had known this was going on, I would have stayed in Mexico!" Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 Yea, it's even causing a problem for our illegal immigrants at work....they complain that the prayer time ritual for Islam (washing your junk) makes for a maintenance disaster in the rest rooms. "If I had known this was going on, I would have stayed in Mexico!" There's a rather...errrr...demanding group where I live, as well...the middle of nowhere. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 There's a rather...errrr...demanding group where I live, as well...the middle of nowhere. It's interesting (and sometimes hilarious) to watch the "immigrants" culturally compete with each other in the workplace, to the point of being bizarre. So prayers X times a day means rugs in a hallway pointed east while people just walk through, telling the latest Brett Favre jokes. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
dre Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 This is just typical behavior by members of all three major skygod cults. Theyve perfected the art of fake victimhood. That goes for muslims, christians, and jews as well. A bunch of bleeting pathetic fake victims. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
DogOnPorch Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 This is just typical behavior by members of all three major skygod cults. Theyve perfected the art of fake victimhood. That goes for muslims, christians, and jews as well. A bunch of bleeting pathetic fake victims. The thing about sitting on a fence is to make sure it isn't of the 'picket' variety. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dre Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 The thing about sitting on a fence is to make sure it isn't of the 'picket' variety. Im not sitting on the fence. Its me on one side, and professional victim cults on the other. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
DogOnPorch Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 Im not sitting on the fence. Its me on one side, and professional victim cults on the other. That's nice. How do you propose to make it all go away again? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dre Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 (edited) That's nice. How do you propose to make it all go away again? Theres not much you can do. In theory you could just explain to them that its all just the adult version of Santa Clause and that theyve been had by a bunch of slimy sheisters and con artists. That works pretty good with small children... but 7 yearolds have more mental capacity than most cultists. So yeah... no easy solution. Im just gonna keep my head down and hope these idiots dont get us ALL killed. Edited October 24, 2010 by dre Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
DogOnPorch Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 Theres not much you can do. In theory you could just explain to them that its all just the adult version of Santa Clause and that theyve been had by a bunch of slimy sheisters and con artists. That works pretty good with small children... but 7 yearolds have more mental capacity than most cultists. I think you'll find that treating folks as if they were just plain stupid isn't going to win you friends. Faith is a power unto itself no matter how scientifically absurd it is. The girl who started the 'Draw Muhammed Day' movement out of this spirit has now collided with reality in that she now lives under threat of death. But, go ahead...tell the Taliban their religion is dumb and they should just drop it for existentialism. Report back with the results. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dre Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 (edited) I think you'll find that treating folks as if they were just plain stupid isn't going to win you friends. Faith is a power unto itself no matter how scientifically absurd it is. The girl who started the 'Draw Muhammed Day' movement out of this spirit has now collided with reality in that she now lives under threat of death. But, go ahead...tell the Taliban their religion is dumb and they should just drop it for existentialism. Report back with the results. I dont EXPECT results. And this girl is a much a victim of her own stupidity as anything else. Theres nothing we can do besides try to protect this twit from harm, and try to arrest and jail the other idiots making death threats. Thats the only result thats really achievable at this point. The reality is, that when you say things that offend sky-god cultists youre going to get death threats. I wish it wasnt like that, but it is. I think you'll find that treating folks as if they were just plain stupid isn't going to win you friends. I think youll find I dont WANT friends that are "plain stupid". Edited October 24, 2010 by dre Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
wulf42 Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 (edited) You hate all religions, but pick on the Muslims the most. And you want to talk about relativism? As far as i can tell they are the only group of people today killing in the name of their religion...as the saying goes "if the shoe fits...." Edited October 24, 2010 by wulf42 Quote
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