Jack Weber Posted August 4, 2010 Report Posted August 4, 2010 I would think that Toadbrother's (and my own) view on this matter (if not on many others) coincide quite exactly with that of conservative libertarians. Yeah,but Mr.Falange always has to get in the leftist/socialist/moral relativist angle to "support" his claim... Nevermind the fact that he's given his true position away in other threads about immigration... Or his open wish for a Francoesque Fascist dictatorship replete with show trials to "get the socialist traitors". Or his creepy father figure admiration for Mr.Harper... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
bloodyminded Posted August 4, 2010 Report Posted August 4, 2010 (edited) Yeah,but Mr.Falange always has to get in the leftist/socialist/moral relativist angle to "support" his claim... Nevermind the fact that he's given his true position away in other threads about immigration... Or his open wish for a Francoesque Fascist dictatorship replete with show trials to "get the socialist traitors". Or his creepy father figure admiration for Mr.Harper... Figures an immigrant leftist Nazi Muslim communist terrorist socialist like you would say these things. Edited August 4, 2010 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Smallc Posted August 4, 2010 Report Posted August 4, 2010 It's deeply dishonest to attack someone on a point they never made. Are you illiterate? Are you a moron? Is half your brain missing? Because I did say there were reasons why a veil would have to be removed, so clearly you are either a liar or an idiot. Canadians live in a free society. What you've written is the antithesis of freedom. It is bigotry, it is abusing a minority, and it certainly will not make us any safer. Not everyone. OMG.... Quote
dre Posted August 4, 2010 Report Posted August 4, 2010 Figures an immigrant leftist Nazi Muslim communist terrorist socialist like you would say these things. No shit! Gas any jews today Jack? Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Jack Weber Posted August 4, 2010 Report Posted August 4, 2010 (edited) Figures an immigrant leftist Nazi Muslim communist terrorist socialist like you would say these things. It always good to know that the Left thinks I'm a neoCon A-Hole... During one of my few visits to Rabble,I was called that by a guy who has the handle "Kropotkin" ,no less!!!! And of course,at this place,the truly lucid like Mr.Falange think anyone who is'nt some far right winger is a socialist/Marxist... There's never any shades of gray with two dimensional ideologues..{cough} Shady {cough}... Edited August 4, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Jack Weber Posted August 4, 2010 Report Posted August 4, 2010 No shit! Gas any jews today Jack? I'm headed to my cousins house right now... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
dre Posted August 4, 2010 Report Posted August 4, 2010 They got identified, weren't they? Because they got their faces exposed! That's the whole point! It's not the same at all! Yes you can conceal weapons in trench coats but the perpetrators were identifiable! That is the problem with the niqab and the burka! You cannot determine any identity at all plus you can hide weapons/explosives in them. They got identified, weren't they? Because they got their faces exposed! That's the whole point! So you figure someone thats already decided to shoot people or blow stuff up is going to obey a laws prohibiting them from wearing face coverings? Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
bloodyminded Posted August 4, 2010 Report Posted August 4, 2010 (edited) It always good to know that the Left thinks I'm a neoCon A-Hole... During one of my few visits to Rabble,I was called that by a guy who has the handle "Kropotkin" ,no less!!!! I spent a day or two on some leftist site--a site full of a lot of opinions I sympathized with, incidentally--and I was informed that I was a "left gatekeeper." Apparently, I'm a baleful soul who pretends dissent, while helping to ensure that the right wing rules; I'm a manager for elite opinion, by offering a safe smokescreen of soft, friendly-to-power dissent. Being a generous sort, I even considered the accusation for a few minutes. Came to the conclusion it was utter hogwash, and left for MLW. Mind you, here, I'm deemed mockingly "a man without a country," a terrorist-hugger, a communist, and an anti-semite. I'd be willing to believe that these criticisms say something about me...if they weren't all so contradictory. Edited August 4, 2010 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
dre Posted August 4, 2010 Report Posted August 4, 2010 I'm headed to my cousins house right now... Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Jack Weber Posted August 4, 2010 Report Posted August 4, 2010 (edited) I spent a day or two on some leftist site--a site full of a lot of opinions I sympathized with, incidentally--and I was informed that I was a "left gatekeeper." Apparently, I'm a baleful soul who pretends dissent, while helping to ensure that the right wing rules; I'm a manager for elite opinion, by offering a safe smokescreen of soft, friendly-to-power dissent. Being a generous sort, I even considered the accusation for a few minutes. Came to the conclusion it was utter hogwash, and left for MLW. Mind you, here, I'm deemed mockingly "a man without a country," a terrorist-hugger, a communist, and an anti-semite. I'd be willing to believe that these criticisms say something about me...if they weren't all so contradictory. Hey!!! Me too!!! We're like...Comrades I like how some here think all bad ideologies are from the left,even Fascism!!!!! Whoa!!!!....Don't tell Mr.Falange that Fascism is really a leftist construct!!! All his phony Nationalism will be for not because he's really doing the authoritarian bidding of those Socialist traitors!!!! By the way,I was called a neocon a-hole because I dared say that one Anne Coulter should able to say whatever she wants...Mr.Kropotkin felt that this meant I agreed with her...I asked him to show me anywhere where I had supported neocon economic views,and of course,there were'nt any... Silly ideologues... Edited August 4, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
bloodyminded Posted August 4, 2010 Report Posted August 4, 2010 Hey!!! Me too!!! We're like...Comrades I like how some here think all bad ideologies are from the left,even Fascism!!!!! Whoa!!!!....Don't tell Mr.Falange that Fascism is really a leftist construct!!! All his phony Nationalism will be for not becuase he's really doing the authoritarian bidding of those Socialist traitors!!!! Oh man...contemporary fascists make communists look like prophetic geniuses. No small achievement. Interestingly, I get the feeling there are more nascent fascists than there are communists, at least in the West. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Jack Weber Posted August 4, 2010 Report Posted August 4, 2010 "I'z gots my Zyklon B in the pick up...I'm gittin' storted to git rid of the Marxist,Zionist scum from infectin' the rest of us!!!" Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Jack Weber Posted August 4, 2010 Report Posted August 4, 2010 Oh man...contemporary fascists make communists look like prophetic geniuses. No small achievement. Interestingly, I get the feeling there are more nascent fascists than there are communists, at least in the West. Of course....Corporatism is a hallmark of Fascism... But...NO WAY!!!!! Other than Pinochet(we'll just keep quiet about him),all authoritarian ideologies come from the left.They all come out of the influence of socialism/Marxism...Just look at Adolph Hitler!!!!He was definately influenced by Communists!!! There's alot of people who have erroneously bought into the modern,free market agenda,which is basically a global corporate agenda.Interesting how the once hardline Maoists have embraced a form of free market corporatism with a severe authoritarian slant? But we've never seen anything like that before!!! I'll await the right wingers here to claim I'm some sort of Communist for pointing out the fallacy of Friedmanite/Von Hayek theory... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
ToadBrother Posted August 4, 2010 Report Posted August 4, 2010 They got identified, weren't they? Because they got their faces exposed! That's the whole point! It's not the same at all! Yes you can conceal weapons in trench coats but the perpetrators were identifiable! That is the problem with the niqab and the burka! You cannot determine any identity at all plus you can hide weapons/explosives in them. Could you list the number of attacks in Canada that were performed by people wearing these sorts of veils. Actually, could you list the number of Criminal Code offenses in Canada and felonies in the United States commited by people wearing these sorts of veils. Want to prove to me that there is a threat anywhere but in your fevered imagination, then show me some damned numbers. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 4, 2010 Report Posted August 4, 2010 Could you list the number of attacks in Canada that were performed by people wearing these sorts of veils. Actually, could you list the number of Criminal Code offenses in Canada and felonies in the United States commited by people wearing these sorts of veils. No problem...here is a sampling of both...but not sure why you need American examples for credibility...oh wait...yes I do. http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2006/11/niqabs-and-burqas-as-security-threats Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Jack Weber Posted August 4, 2010 Report Posted August 4, 2010 Could you list the number of attacks in Canada that were performed by people wearing these sorts of veils. Actually, could you list the number of Criminal Code offenses in Canada and felonies in the United States commited by people wearing these sorts of veils. Want to prove to me that there is a threat anywhere but in your fevered imagination, then show me some damned numbers. They can't...They won't...They won't even bother... Because the identification issue is not the real issue to them... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Remiel Posted August 5, 2010 Report Posted August 5, 2010 I don't know, this generally isn't discussed much but Jesus threatens a lot of people with death and hell fire. He wasn't exactly a good guy. But who is " exactly a good guy " ? Hell, if every bad guy said as many good things as Jesus, the world probably would not be such a crap hole. So, I am comfortable taking his flaws in stride. Quote
Guest TrueMetis Posted August 5, 2010 Report Posted August 5, 2010 But who is " exactly a good guy " ? Hell, if every bad guy said as many good things as Jesus, the world probably would not be such a crap hole. So, I am comfortable taking his flaws in stride. The baddest of the bad didn't threaten people with eternal torment. Quote
Remiel Posted August 5, 2010 Report Posted August 5, 2010 The baddest of the bad didn't threaten people with eternal torment. Did Jesus say, " I will eternally torment you if you do not follow me, " or " You will be eternally tormented if you do not follow me, " ? Kind of an important distinction. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted August 5, 2010 Report Posted August 5, 2010 Did Jesus say, " I will eternally torment you if you do not follow me, " or " You will be eternally tormented if you do not follow me, " ? Kind of an important distinction. Go, and do thou likewise. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest TrueMetis Posted August 5, 2010 Report Posted August 5, 2010 Did Jesus say, " I will eternally torment you if you do not follow me, " or " You will be eternally tormented if you do not follow me, " ? Kind of an important distinction. Since he's supposed to be god in the flesh, not really. But here's just some of his rather... questionable statements. Quote
Remiel Posted August 5, 2010 Report Posted August 5, 2010 Since he's supposed to be god in the flesh, not really. But here's just some of his rather... questionable statements. Well, then, I suppose then we can get along to the final tool in the shed: cannibalize the good stuff, and chuck the bad stuff, same as we do with everyone else. Quote
Guest TrueMetis Posted August 5, 2010 Report Posted August 5, 2010 Well, then, I suppose then we can get along to the final tool in the shed: cannibalize the good stuff, and chuck the bad stuff, same as we do with everyone else. You'll forgive me If I feel there isn't anything to cannibalize from this, except maybe the paper it was printed on. Quote
Remiel Posted August 5, 2010 Report Posted August 5, 2010 You'll forgive me If I feel there isn't anything to cannibalize from this, except maybe the paper it was printed on. You do not think that, " Love the neighbour, " " Turn the other cheek, " " Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone, " and similar examples are worthwhile? Quote
Guest TrueMetis Posted August 5, 2010 Report Posted August 5, 2010 You do not think that, " Love the neighbour, " " Turn the other cheek, " " Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone, " and similar examples are worthwhile? I'll tolerate my neighbors, won't turn the other cheek because odds are that one will be hit to I'd rather defend myself, and I don't think sin is real. Didn't need a bronze age book to explain any of this to me. Quote
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