DogOnPorch Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Please explain how the mosque at ground zero and September 11 are related. Islam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicky10013 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Islam. 9/11 was caused by Islam just as much as Oklahoma City was caused by Christianity. Try again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 9/11 was caused by Islam just as much as Oklahoma City was caused by Christianity. Try again. Says you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicky10013 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Says you. Care to prove me wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Care to prove me wrong? Oklahoma city was a product of anti-government hysteria. 9/11 was a product of religious hysteria. What religious hysteria you ask? Islamic hysteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Care to prove me wrong? Prove your opinion wrong? It's your opinion that Islam isn't the connection between the two events. However, if we were playing 'Family Feud', it would be the #1 answer. That some posters want to give some onces of respect to what I view as a very large cult isn't my problem. Re: OK City having a Christian motive. Are you sure McVeigh & Nichols had one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicky10013 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Prove your opinion wrong? It's your opinion that Islam isn't the connection between the two events. However, if we were playing 'Family Feud', it would be the #1 answer. That some posters want to give some onces of respect to what I view as a very large cult isn't my problem. Re: OK City having a Christian motive. Are you sure McVeigh & Nichols had one? Anybody could give the answer to family feud. How many of those people can answer why? No one has been able to thus far, so I'm guessing none. Unless of course you can tell me how. I know they didn't have one, which was my point entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Anybody could give the answer to family feud. How many of those people can answer why? No one has been able to thus far, so I'm guessing none. Unless of course you can tell me how. I know they didn't have one, which was my point entirely. And which is why your point fails .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Americans have the right to feel as they do. Can you imagine the outcry if Americans injected themselves into a controversy in Canada? Unfortunately, I can. And it would be justified. Of course Canadians, as well as the rest of the world, have a right to their opinion. Just as I did regarding the minarets in Sweden or people here did regarding banning the burqua in the Netherlands and France. But when someone outside the U.S. tells me it's "none of my business," as they state their opinion over and over, I can't help but wonder what they'd think if this had happened in Toronto rather than NYC, and you and I were telling them what they could or couldn't feel; what was "logical" and acceptable in regards to their feelings. It's truly mind boggling..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 (edited) Anybody could give the answer to family feud. How many of those people can answer why? No one has been able to thus far, so I'm guessing none. Unless of course you can tell me how. I know they didn't have one, which was my point entirely. Seems you were on vacation in 2001. So your position is that al-Qaeda is a secular terrorist group with no connection to Islam? Edited September 8, 2010 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicky10013 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Unfortunately, I can. And it would be justified. Of course Canadians, as well as the rest of the world, have a right to their opinion. Just as I did regarding the minarets in Sweden or people here did regarding banning the burqua in the Netherlands and France. But when someone outside the U.S. tells me it's "none of my business," as they state their opinion over and over, I can't help but wonder what they'd think if this had happened in Toronto rather than NYC, and you and I were telling them what they could or couldn't feel; what was "logical" and acceptable in regards to their feelings. It's truly mind boggling..... Who the hell said it was none of your business? Furthermore, if this happened in Toronto, which it just wouldn't, I'd still be supportive of the right to build a mosque. Hell, I'd welcome all the help I could get and I wouldn't care what country they were from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicky10013 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Seems you were on vacation in 2001. So your position is that al-Qaeda is a secular terrorist group with no connection to Islam? Secular, no. Connection to Islam? Absolutely they don't have one. The compatibility of the beliefs between regular Islam and the militant variety Al Qaeda uses to recruit and plan their politically motivated attacks are as about as connected as Christianity and whatever the hell David Koresh preached out in Wako. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Who the hell said it was none of your business? Perhaps - just perhaps - it's none of your business.\That's "who the hell" said it was none of my business. Furthermore, if this happened in Toronto, which it just wouldn't I knew that was coming. From at least one poster. You didn't disappoint. Of course "it just wouldn't" happen in Toronto. NYC, London, Madrid, Bali, but not Toronto. I'd ask you why you have such a belief, but I already know the answer. I'd still be supportive of the right to build a mosque. Hell, I'd welcome all the help I could get and I wouldn't care what country they were from. Which doesn't address the point I was making at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysTerri Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Personally I don't get the uproar over the mosque in NYC. It is NOT on the site of the WTC and its been there all along anyway. No one from that mosque has been found guilty of plotting and carrying out any attacks anywhere. This whole subject is fanatical. America, when I was young, was run by fanatics. Returning to fanaticism is not progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysTerri Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Secular, no. Connection to Islam? Absolutely they don't have one. The compatibility of the beliefs between regular Islam and the militant variety Al Qaeda uses to recruit and plan their politically motivated attacks are as about as connected as Christianity and whatever the hell David Koresh preached out in Wako. How about all those "good" Christian Ku Klux Klanners? Now there is a terrorist organization for ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Secular, no. Connection to Islam? Absolutely they don't have one. The compatibility of the beliefs between regular Islam and the militant variety Al Qaeda uses to recruit and plan their politically motivated attacks are as about as connected as Christianity and whatever the hell David Koresh preached out in Wako. Of course they have a connection to Islam. They don't have their own special mosques. They worship alongside the moderates. They attend the same mosques as the moderates. They don't have a special "Waco" mosque for terrorists/terrorist supporters/extremists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Secular, no. Connection to Islam? Absolutely they don't have one. The compatibility of the beliefs between regular Islam and the militant variety Al Qaeda uses to recruit and plan their politically motivated attacks are as about as connected as Christianity and whatever the hell David Koresh preached out in Wako. al-Qaeda = Qutbism ...which is connected to Islam. That is, unless Sayyid Qutb and the Muslim Brotherhood aren't true Scotsmen as the fallacy goes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 How about all those "good" Christian Ku Klux Klanners? Now there is a terrorist organization for ya. The Klan is but a shadow of its former self. Greensboro in 1979 did much to curb in the Klan's more overt activities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter F Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 al-Qaeda = Qutbism ...which is connected to Islam. That is, unless Sayyid Qutb and the Muslim Brotherhood aren't true Scotsmen as the fallacy goes... Ah. Qutbism is a particular sect of Islam. Sorta like Scotsmen are a sect of Scottish people...errrr wataminit.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Ah. Qutbism is a particular sect of Islam. Sorta like Scotsmen are a sect of Scottish people...errrr wataminit.... See: al-Jahiliyah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Only 50 more pages to go !!! WOHOOOO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Only 50 more pages to go !!! WOHOOOO. Says the person who told us they'd stop posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Then I guess you can join the club, based on "any negative" that you have posted about Americans or any other group. Shall we count them? Count me in - any group that seeks to destroy us must be offended harshly..what the hell is wrong with America - they holocaust 3000 citizens and now you grant them the right to place a monument of victory next to the grave site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 This is the outcome and results of God hate and incrimentally engineered secularism...now those that are orgainized and full of Islamic zeal are about to push us out side - and we will faint and cry out to our god..."lady gaga save me" - what a bunch of losers we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) This is the outcome and results of God hate and incrimentally engineered secularism...now those that are orgainized and full of Islamic zeal are about to push us out side - and we will faint and cry out to our god..."lady gaga save me" - what a bunch of losers we are. Nobody is about to "push us aside". This outrageous kind of hyperbole is as bogus as it is pointless. Sort of like your holocaust reference in your last post. what a bunch of losers we are. Whos "we"? You got a mouse in your pocket? Edited September 9, 2010 by dre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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