Obama's Katrina

[bush_cheney2004]

.... The Bush admin looked at BPs oil spill plan and said it was awesome approved it and that lead this admin to think that true. When they actually looked at the plan they saw that the Bush Admin mislead the public when they approved BPs crappy plan and then they needed to come up with a real plan.

Sorry, but Bush is long gone....and the American public is losing patience with this "crappy" excuse.

[punked]

Sorry, but Bush is long gone....and the American public is losing patience with this "crappy" excuse.

Yes but no president goes into office and says "First order of business review EVERYTHING the last president did". That is a waste of time and resources they trust the last guy wasn't a moron who ok'd everything that came across his desk even if it was a blank piece of paper saying "Gulf oil spill plan". Man was Obama wrong to trust Bush wasn't the worst president of the last 80 years.

[GostHacked]

Sorry, but Bush is long gone....and the American public is losing patience with this "crappy" excuse.

Yeah screw history, who wants to learn from that.

[punked]

Sorry, but Bush is long gone....and the American public is losing patience with this "crappy" excuse.

The Boston Globe has a whole article on American Impatience.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2010/07/06/impatient_for_change/

[bush_cheney2004]

Yes but no president goes into office and says "First order of business review EVERYTHING the last president did". That is a waste of time and resources they trust the last guy wasn't a moron who ok'd everything that came across his desk even if it was a blank piece of paper saying "Gulf oil spill plan". Man was Obama wrong to trust Bush wasn't the worst president of the last 80 years.

In fact, Obama did embrace many of the Bush policies deemed unacceptable during his campaign. You can whine all you want about what Bush did or didn't do, but stopping the spill is Obama's problem, and he is failing miserably.

"Daddy, did you plug the hole yet?"

[GostHacked]

In fact, Obama did embrace many of the Bush policies deemed unacceptable during his campaign. You can whine all you want about what Bush did or didn't do, but stopping the spill is Obama's problem, and he is failing miserably.

"Daddy, did you plug the hole yet?"

Nah screw it let it spill baby spill. At least it's in the US and not in Canada .

A little oil never hurt no one.

[punked]

In fact, Obama did embrace many of the Bush policies deemed unacceptable during his campaign. You can whine all you want about what Bush did or didn't do, but stopping the spill is Obama's problem, and he is failing miserably.

"Daddy, did you plug the hole yet?"

I am not whinning. Bust expecting Obama not to be 30 days behind because their was no plan in place when the Bush admin said their was is silly. Yep it is going slow, yep their are regulations in the way, however I understand that when you open the folder that reads "Oil spill plan" and you got a blank piece of paper in there it sure throws off the the game plan.

[bush_cheney2004]

Nah screw it let it spill baby spill. At least it's in the US and not in Canada .

A little oil never hurt no one.

Correct, and anybody who thinks the end of oil is near because of a spill is fooling themself. Canada has it's own share of environmental pollution associated with tar sands production....done on purpose.

[bush_cheney2004]

I am not whinning.

Yes you are whining....because there has been so much time to do so in the face of red tape and inaction. The same "feds" who were "incompetent" under Bush suddenly deserve our patience and support...LOL!

Bust expecting Obama not to be 30 days behind because their was no plan in place when the Bush admin said their was is silly. Yep it is going slow, yep their are regulations in the way, however I understand that when you open the folder that reads "Oil spill plan" and you got a blank piece of paper in there it sure throws off the the game plan.

Yea, that's the same kinda plan Bush got from Clinton for terrorism...deal with it Mr. President, or we will find somebody else who can. Or in Canada speak, don't be a Mr. Dithers.

[GostHacked]

Correct, and anybody who thinks the end of oil is near because of a spill is fooling themself. Canada has it's own share of environmental pollution associated with tar sands production....done on purpose.

And? I don't think anyone is fooling themselves about the end of oil, it's some time away, but there will be a point when it does run out. But you are not a forward thinker from what I can tell.

[BubberMiley]

Yea, that's the same kinda plan Bush got from Clinton for terrorism....

Once again, you don't know of what you speak. Bush ignored Clinton's plan for terrorism, thus allowing 9/11 to happen.

And, of course, Canada was still there while all this happened.

[GostHacked]

Yes you are whining....because there has been so much time to do so in the face of red tape and inaction. The same "feds" who were "incompetent" under Bush suddenly deserve our patience and support...LOL!

You are talking about Shady, not punked.

[bush_cheney2004]

You are talking about Shady, not punked.

Speak for yourself....Shady has highlighted the obvious dysfunction when it comes to this "disaster". Not only have the lefty loons proclaimed the spill as the end of life on earth, but they refuse to hold their chosen king accountable.

[GostHacked]

Speak for yourself....Shady has highlighted the obvious dysfunction when it comes to this "disaster". Not only have the lefty loons proclaimed the spill as the end of life on earth, but they refuse to hold their chosen king accountable.

No one here says it's the end of the world, but keep on that. But it will be detrimental to the gulf for at least a couple decades. And that is the immediate effect.

What I'd like to know is why the spill continues? Why has the well not been plugged? I know Shady is talking about clean up efforst but that won't amount to squat unless the well is plugged/sealed. BP wants to keep the oil flowing and no one seems to give a shit about killing the source of the spill. Do that and clean up will be much more effective and shorter.

[bush_cheney2004]

No one here says it's the end of the world, but keep on that. But it will be detrimental to the gulf for at least a couple decades. And that is the immediate effect.

So what? The long term impact of offshore drilling for the gulf region has been/will be far more positive than negative. The rest is just politics, and now it's Obama's turn in the barrel.

What I'd like to know is why the spill continues? Why has the well not been plugged? I know Shady is talking about clean up efforst but that won't amount to squat unless the well is plugged/sealed. BP wants to keep the oil flowing and no one seems to give a shit about killing the source of the spill. Do that and clean up will be much more effective and shorter.

The only demonstrated solution to date has been relief wells, which are being drilled. Keeping the oil flowing for partial capture is all you can do if efforts to kill the well head have thus far failed.

[bush_cheney2004]

Once again, you don't know of what you speak. Bush ignored Clinton's plan for terrorism, thus allowing 9/11 to happen.

And, of course, Canada was still there while all this happened.

So says another voice from the wilderness...we all know what Clinton was doing in the White House.

[GostHacked]

So what? The long term impact of offshore drilling for the gulf region has been/will be far more positive than negative. The rest is just politics, and now it's Obama's turn in the barrel.

I think this incident puts it into a different light. It does not take much to have things go horribly wrong. Almost 80 days now.

The quantity of over 30 Exxon Valdez has spilled so far. One every 2.5 days. Alaska still has problems 20 years later where the Exxon Valdez spilled it's cargo.

The only demonstrated solution to date has been relief wells, which are being drilled. Keeping the oil flowing for partial capture is all you can do if efforts to kill the well head have thus far failed.

No they can blow the well like the Russians do. They've been successful with this in the past. If they were serious about stopping the broken well they would have stopped it by now. BP wants the oil to keep flowing that seems quite obvious to me.

BPs track record is pretty bad compared to other oil companies. But this begs the question, how many more rigs have this potential problem that the DeepWater Horizon had? Do we crack down on them to make sure things are as safe as they could be? Or will we wait for another disaster to do something about the other rigs in the gulf and around the world?

[bush_cheney2004]

I think this incident puts it into a different light. It does not take much to have things go horribly wrong. Almost 80 days now.

Then make up your mind...is it a game changing disaster or just another bump in the road?

The quantity of over 30 Exxon Valdez has spilled so far. One every 2.5 days. Alaska still has problems 20 years later where the Exxon Valdez spilled it's cargo.

False comparison....different kind of crude oil and environmental circumstances.

No they can blow the well like the Russians do. They've been successful with this in the past. If they were serious about stopping the broken well they would have stopped it by now. BP wants the oil to keep flowing that seems quite obvious to me.

No they can't...read the regulations and red tape. LOL!

BPs track record is pretty bad compared to other oil companies. But this begs the question, how many more rigs have this potential problem that the DeepWater Horizon had? Do we crack down on them to make sure things are as safe as they could be? Or will we wait for another disaster to do something about the other rigs in the gulf and around the world?

"We" do both....because turning off real and potential supply is not acceptable. Ironically, because of this "gusher", "we" will have even more deep wells going forward.

[GostHacked]

Then make up your mind...is it a game changing disaster or just another bump in the road?

It's clearly a disaster, no one here, yourself including, is denying that.

False comparison....different kind of crude oil and environmental circumstances.

You are right, false comparison, this disaster is much much bigger.

No they can't...read the regulations and red tape. LOL!

Yeah the ones Bush Jr put into place. I've said from the start that Obama was going to be worse than Bush.

"We" do both....because turning off real and potential supply is not acceptable. Ironically, because of this "gusher", "we" will have even more deep wells going forward.

Seal the well and the oil can be extracted later on at a different site close by. This will save the gulf, and save this source for future extraction. As it is, this gusher is pissing away any hope of extraction. The effort could mean the end of BP, which would actually be a good thing for the industry. Companies will take notice and put more safety protocols into place.

BP has spent over 3.2 billion so far in the cap/clean up. Expect more to be spent.

And if there are other sources of oil, it won't hurt to do the right thing and blow this well and seal it.

[bush_cheney2004]

It's clearly a disaster, no one here, yourself including, is denying that.

But is it a game changer? No...drilling continues.

You are right, false comparison, this disaster is much much bigger.

That's right...a lot bigger...much bigger...so what have "we" learned?

Yeah the ones Bush Jr put into place. I've said from the start that Obama was going to be worse than Bush.

Great...but you don't get to vote on the matter.

Seal the well and the oil can be extracted later on at a different site close by. This will save the gulf, and save this source for future extraction. As it is, this gusher is pissing away any hope of extraction. The effort could mean the end of BP, which would actually be a good thing for the industry. Companies will take notice and put more safety protocols into place.

"Save the gulf"....more sky-is-falling talk.

BP has spent over 3.2 billion so far in the cap/clean up. Expect more to be spent.

Chump change in the overall scheme of things...cost of doing business.

And if there are other sources of oil, it won't hurt to do the right thing and blow this well and seal it.

If you say so...give the Rooskies a call.

[GostHacked]

But is it a game changer? No...drilling continues.

That's right...a lot bigger...much bigger...so what have "we" learned?

Great...but you don't get to vote on the matter.

"Save the gulf"....more sky-is-falling talk.

Chump change in the overall scheme of things...cost of doing business.

If you say so...give the Rooskies a call.

You offer more excuses than solutions.

[bush_cheney2004]

You offer more excuses than solutions.

There is no "solution"....when are you going to realize that such rewards involve greater risk taking? We all don't want to play it safe in Canada!

[GostHacked]

There is no "solution"....when are you going to realize that such rewards involve greater risk taking? We all don't want to play it safe in Canada!

There are solutions.

[bush_cheney2004]

There are solutions.

Gee...it must be frustrating to be in Canada with "solutions" that nobody is paying attention to. But then the USA wouldn't be your favorite train wreck to watch on cable TV.

[Topaz]

Speaking of train wreck, the media hasn't been talking about the most dangerous part of the oil spill. The potiential methane explosion as the result of the relief well or nuke option to stop the oil from spilling. I'm sure the government doesn't want to start a panic for people livng around the gulf but this could be as bad or worse than when US dropped the Nuke on Japan. Watch the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn_EZSp-MKo&annotation_id=annotation_646524&feature=iv