Obama's Katrina

[waldo]

Heckuva job Obamee!

well... so... of course, Fox News actually trots out an interview with "Heckuva job Brownie" in which the former Bush FEMA director makes an accusation that the well has been purposefully politicized in order to change an offshore drilling decision... although he did stop short in actually accusing the Obama admin of being behind the explosion itself... perhaps Brownie missed Rush Limbaugh's show that day!

And so now you’re looking at this oil slick approaching, you know, the Louisiana shore, according to certain — NOAA and other places, if the winds are right, it will go up the East Coast.

This is exactly what they want, because now he can pander to the environmentalists and say, “I’m going to shut it down because it`s too dangerous.” While Mexico and China and everybody else drills in the Gulf. We’re going to get shut down.

[Shady]

There is simply no way to contain that spill.

That's not true. Actual experts disagree with you. Much of the spill could have been contained if the proper equipment was available from the federal government in less than 8 days. According to their own regulations.

And it was only windy for a couple of days.

well... so... of course, Fox News actually trots out an interview with "Heckuva job Brownie" in which the former Bush FEMA director makes an accusation that the well has been purposefully politicized in order to change an offshore drilling decision

Yep. He said the same thing in an interview on MSNBC too. You shouldn't rely soley on leftwing blogs for all your information.

[ToadBrother]

That's not true. Actual experts disagree with you. Much of the spill could have been contained if the proper equipment was available from the federal government in less than 8 days. According to their own regulations.

What experts? Everyone I've seen who has any experience in the oil industry suggests that this is an inherent risk of deep water drilling. Frankly I think you're just making it up, or listening to lying blowhards like Limbaugh.

And it was only windy for a couple of days.

BS, the weather didn't really calm down until the last day or two.

Yep. He said the same thing in an interview on MSNBC too. You shouldn't rely soley on leftwing blogs for all your information.

I'm on Slashdot right now where some guys with actually drilling knowledge are laying out the extreme challenges. What you need to do is stop reading blogs completely and actually find out the issues at hand. Everything to you is politics, it's a sign of your diseased mind.

[GostHacked]

That's not true. Actual experts disagree with you. Much of the spill could have been contained if the proper equipment was available from the federal government in less than 8 days. According to their own regulations.

Actually this whole fiasco could have been prevented with proper regulation and inspection of deep sea oil wells and cut off valves. An oil rig sunk.

And it was only windy for a couple of days.

And in that time the booms were rendered ineffective. They need a few hundred miles of these booms to contain this spill. They don't have the booms needed to contain the spill.

I know facts are lost on you.

Yep. He said the same thing in an interview on MSNBC too. You shouldn't rely soley on leftwing blogs for all your information.

Like you depending on right wing blogs and media?

[punked]

What exactly is crap? The fact that the federal government didn't have any fire booms ready? Or the fact that it took them 8 days to find one? Which fact is crap?

Now that's crap!

What does "pretty much" have been useless mean? Not entirely? How does that help your point? Besides the fact that there weren't high winds for 8 days! Stop making excuses.

How come the only place I can find your facts Shady are in THE OPINION section of an obscure newspaper? Yah it is crap and Lies.

[Born Free]

How come the only place I can find your facts Shady are in THE OPINION section of an obscure newspaper? Yah it is crap and Lies.

When Brown suggested on FOX News that the Obama administration was pleased with the spreading Gulf oil slick, it simply reenforces the view as to just how dangerous and destructive the Bush White House folks were to the country....with few exceptions .... very scary whacked out people....

[bush_cheney2004]

When Brown suggested on FOX News that the Obama administration was pleased with the spreading Gulf oil slick, it simply reenforces the view as to just how dangerous and destructive the Bush White House folks were to the country....with few exceptions .... very scary whacked out people....

..and that's why we re-elected them. Just to scare the pants off of folks like you who don't have a choice in the matter.

[Oleg Bach]

Nope but plenty died cause of inaction, which isn't something you can say of Obama.

NO one seems to understand the gravity of this situation..thousands will die..not right away but inflicted poverty caused by this disaster will slowly kill off a whole batch of people..not to mention the cancers that will leak into the human biosphere.. People do not realize that a socialist is the henchmen of arch capitalist pillagers. Obama is simply a guy that is assisting in filering up the last bit of wealth up to the very few that do not give a damn about nature, the environment..people or animals..Obama cut a deal with the devil and he will do the dance that is instructed..destroying the earth and all of it's glory is part of the agenda.

[Shady]

New info related to the Obama administration and Spillgate.

U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

The Interior Department exempted BP's calamitous Gulf of Mexico drilling operation from a detailed environmental impact analysis last year, according to government documents, after three reviews of the area concluded that a massive oil spill was unlikely.

The decision by the department's Minerals Management Service (MMS) to give BP's lease at Deepwater Horizon a "categorical exclusion" from the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) on April 6, 2009.

Link

So basically the Obama administration exempted BP from a full impact study of the proposed drilling site.

While Oil Slick Spread, Interior Department Chief of Staff Rafted with Wife on "Work-Focused" Trip in Grand Canyon

Though his agency was charged with coordinating the federal response to the major oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, Department of the Interior chief of staff Tom Strickland was in the Grand Canyon with his wife last week participating in activities that included white-water rafting, ABC News has learned.

Link

Looks like Obama's gotta lot of 'Heckuva Job Brownies' in his administration.

But the most damning aspect of the situation continues to be the lack of preparedness when it comes to available fire booms. Fire booms that could've help contained the spill when the oil slick was much much smaller during the first 3 to 5 days. It took them 8 days to find one, and it had to be shipped from Ohio or Illinois.

While some posters continue to use the weather as an excuse. According to AccuWeather data, sunshine and calm seas were present at the accident site as far back as last Wednesday April 28th.

While sunshine and calm seas will aid in cleanup efforts of the Deepwater Horizon rig through Wednesday, thunderstorms, increasing winds and building seas are forecast to spread from west to east late Thursday and Friday

Link

[punked]

New info related to the Obama administration and Spillgate.

So basically the Obama administration exempted BP from a full impact study of the proposed drilling site.

Looks like Obama's gotta lot of 'Heckuva Job Brownies' in his administration.

But the most damning aspect of the situation continues to be the lack of preparedness when it comes to available fire booms. Fire booms that could've help contained the spill when the oil slick was much much smaller during the first 3 to 5 days. It took them 8 days to find one, and it had to be shipped from Ohio or Illinois.

While some posters continue to use the weather as an excuse. According to AccuWeather data, sunshine and calm seas were present at the accident site as far back as last Wednesday April 28th.

I love it the guy who was shouting DRILL BABY DRILL, is now mad that an oil company was granted an exemption as an incentive for more drilling. Do you have your democrat hat on today Shady or do not understand what the article is saying, Palin was wrong then?

I get it Shady Obama was right during the election and the entire Republican party was wrong. I agree.

Edited May 5, 2010 by punked

[Shady]

I love it the guy who was shouting DRILL BABY DRILL, is now mad that an oil company was granted an exemption as an incentive for more drilling. Do you have your democrat hat on today Shady or do not understand what the article is saying, Palin was wrong then?

DRILL BABY DRILL doesn't mean skirting rules and handing out exemptions to large political donors. Palin wasn't and isn't wrong. But you have to hold everyone to the proper rules before such endeavors. And it certainly means having a federal government in a position to respond to its own regulations in terms of oil spill clean ups. Having ZERO fire booms available doesn't cut the mustard. Needing 8 days to find one is even worse. There's nothing in the DRILL BABY DRILL mantra that states drill wherever you want, don't follow guidelines, and receive exemptions, and if an accident occurs, make sure the federal government is in no position to response to it's own oil spill plans cira 1994. Not sure where you're getting any of that from.

[ToadBrother]

blah blah blah

I want you to provide technical documents on how exactly you contain an out-of-control spill at a mile below the surface, considering tides and currents. Don't give me your news articles and blog entries. Everything I've read by the experts suggests that the second the BOP failed, this was going to be a temporarily uncontrollable catastrophe and the only ultimate fix is to drill a new intersecting well and then plug the existing one. This is the major risk of deep-sea drilling. Now I have no doubt that the current Administration was under intense pressure and probably did cut corners (I mean, look at how GWB cut out the heart of environmental legislation), and if there's any blame, it's probably going to lay in the government's inspection and permits regime.

But to imagine for a second that somehow what amounts to big hot-dog shaped pontoons is going to contain a spill that's puking out under pressure at five thousand feet below the surface is completely idiotic. The real failure as BP and the government not openly informing everyone that, while a spill wasn't all that likely, if one happened, a big chunk of the Gulf Coast was screwed.

As to Palin, she's a moron, a simpering fool.

Edited May 5, 2010 by ToadBrother

[punked]

HAHAHAHAH SHADY'S Second article after reading it actually is Shady whinning because Tom Strickland the Assistant Secretary for Fish and Wildlife and Parks was not on the scene, because you know if he was none of this would ever have happened. Never mind Ken Salazar the actual head of the department of the Interior was there as soon as oil leaking was reported the BIG NEWS IS the Assistant Secretary for Fish and Wildlife and Parks was not there. GIVE ME A F-ING BREAK!

There is one thing I do know if Republicans were in Charge this would have still happened, it probably would have been handled close to the same, but they would be out telling lies and trying to make themselves seem the gods gift to America. GIVE ME A F-ING BREAK THE Assistant freaking Secretary for Fish and Wildlife and Parks wasn't there.

Edited May 5, 2010 by punked

[Born Free]

..and that's why we re-elected them. Just to scare the pants off of folks like you who don't have a choice in the matter.

Then yer a bigger idiot than you give yourself credit for...

[bush_cheney2004]

Then yer a bigger idiot than you give yourself credit for...

Thank you...that's the idea. Smart and smug is your department...we're happy with just world conquest!

[Born Free]

NO one seems to understand the gravity of this situation..thousands will die..not right away but inflicted poverty caused by this disaster will slowly kill off a whole batch of people..not to mention the cancers that will leak into the human biosphere.. People do not realize that a socialist is the henchmen of arch capitalist pillagers. Obama is simply a guy that is assisting in filering up the last bit of wealth up to the very few that do not give a damn about nature, the environment..people or animals..Obama cut a deal with the devil and he will do the dance that is instructed..destroying the earth and all of it's glory is part of the agenda.

Do you write for Rush Limburger? Maybe is Glen Beck...Its really good stuff. One day you might even begin to understand just how utterly stupid, unenlightened and definitely misinformed your post is...trashy...almost Palinesque like...

[Born Free]

...we're happy with just world conquest!

Well yer fuc*ing it up...not surprising though...ass*oles like you have been running the show..

[bush_cheney2004]

Well yer fuc*ing it up...not surprising though...ass*oles like you have been running the show..

Well it's a lot better than with iceholes like you....next time win the war for your throne!

[Born Free]

Well it's a lot better than with iceholes like you....next time win the war for your throne!

.... wanna bet?

[Sir Bandelot]

Do you write for Rush Limburger? Maybe is Glen Beck...Its really good stuff. One day you might even begin to understand just how utterly stupid, unenlightened and definitely misinformed your post is...trashy...almost Palinesque like...

Actually thought his post was good. Cuts it to the quick- no bullshit.

[bush_cheney2004]

.... wanna bet?

We already have....you lost the bet.

[BubberMiley]

And it certainly means having a federal government in a position to respond to its own regulations in terms of oil spill clean ups.

Yes, we need stronger environmental regulations to both prevent and respond to such catastrophes. It's nice to see that you are not so partisan that you are willing to oppose the Republicans' traditional opposition to all such regulations. I agree that they are on the wrong side of history on that one.

The Democrats have caved to the right on this issue, and I was surprised to see Obama willing to end the ban on offshore drilling. Now is the time to create a stronger governmental role on this issue, and it's nice to see you onboard.

[bush_cheney2004]

....The Democrats have caved to the right on this issue, and I was surprised to see Obama willing to end the ban on offshore drilling. Now is the time to create a stronger governmental role on this issue, and it's nice to see you onboard.

Uh...excuse me gentlemen...but how are either of you going to be "onboard" from Canada?

[BubberMiley]

Uh...excuse me gentlemen...but how are either of you going to be "onboard" from Canada?

You are the most predictable poster I've ever read, and I find it very comforting that you're always there.

[bush_cheney2004]

You are the most predictable poster I've ever read, and I find it very comforting that you're always there.

That's a great non-answer, and I likewise find your recurring out-of-body-and-country experiences to be quite fascinating. What else would you like to be onboard in another country?