Bonam Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Do you think they simply willingly open the door to such people now? How do you propose we test for this? I think they do nothing to filter out people who may hold such beliefs. "Testing" for it is simple, simply rule out (or impose reduced quotas on) regions where racial hatred is known to be endemic. How should I know? I would rather they be taught to respect all people. And is that on the agenda? The whole premise of the schools seems to conflict with that. The existence of the schools assumes that these people would be better off surrounded by their own kind, that it is better for them not to be made to mingle with others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 I think they do nothing to filter out people who may hold such beliefs. "Testing" for it is simple, simply rule out (or impose reduced quotas on) regions where racial hatred is known to be endemic. You may not see it, but that's definitely racist. And is that on the agenda? The whole premise of the schools seems to conflict with that. The existence of the schools assumes that these people would be better off surrounded by their own kind, that it is better for them not to be made to mingle with others. Again, I don't know, and again, arab centric doesn't mean arab segregation. Others will be able to attend I would assume, since I don't think it would otherwise be legal or constitutional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonam Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 You may not see it, but that's definitely racist. And I maintain that it is not. Selective immigration policies are not racist. Many nations including liberal Western ones have immigration policies that differentiate based on race/ethnicity. Again, I don't know, and again, arab centric doesn't mean arab segregation. Others will be able to attend I would assume, since I don't think it would otherwise be legal or constitutional. Others may technically be allowed to attend but how many will? Do you honestly believe there would be more than a tiny handful of people in these schools other than Muslims? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 (edited) You may not see it, but that's definitely racist. Everything is racist. I read an article today in the paper that said if there's a room full of whites and a minority walks in. A white goes over and talks to the minority to make him or her feel welcome that that's racist...lol. Can you not see how crazy and how far we're going with this political correctness crap? Edited April 7, 2010 by Mr.Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Others may technically be allowed to attend but how many will? Do you honestly believe there would be more than a tiny handful of people in these schools other than Muslims? Again, I don't know. Toronto is a very multicultural city (one of the most, in fact). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonam Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Again, I don't know. You may not, but I think I do. The schools will be almost entirely attended by Muslims. This much is obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonam Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Toronto is a very multicultural city (one of the most, in fact). Yes, multicultural enough for mobs of one culture to chase people of another culture down the street with knives, probably hoping to murder them. Oops nevermind that was Gatineau. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Yes, multicultural enough for mobs of one culture to chase people of another culture down the street with knives, probably hoping to murder them. Oops nevermind that was Gatineau. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 If it was Jews on Arabs then it would terrible. As it is now it's just some misunderstood youthful prank right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 If it was Jews on Arabs then it would terrible. As it is now it's just some misunderstood youthful prank right? Yes, and no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonam Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 What, you don't like this aspect of multiculturalism? After all, we have to take the good with the bad and shouldn't discriminate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 What, you don't like this aspect of multiculturalism? After all, we have to take the good with the bad and shouldn't discriminate... We should take the good with the bad. I'm glad you agree that we shouldn't limit immigrants based on race or regional location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonam Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 We should take the good with the bad. Clearly you failed to notice the sarcasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Yes, and no. Then why are you siding with the Arabs? Are you really that partisan that you will even support an Arab against a Jew when the Arab attacks a Jew with a sword on our streets? Wow. And you guys call me partisan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Then why are you siding with the Arabs? Are you really that partisan that you will even support an Arab against a Jew when the Arab attacks a Jew with a sword on our streets? Wow. And you guys call me partisan. I'm not siding with Arabs. I'm siding with not jumping to conclusions or generalizing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Then why are you siding with the Arabs? Are you really that partisan that you will even support an Arab against a Jew when the Arab attacks a Jew with a sword on our streets? If you have some statistics to show Arab immigrants are more likely to commit these sorts of crimes, then by all means provide it. Wow. And you guys call me partisan. That's not what we call you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 That's not what we call you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 So we should sit and wait until pogroms are raging throughout Canada? I say this kind of racial hatred and violence needs to be stamped out before it becomes a major issue, not after. Pogroms???...Seriously...Pogroms???? Listen,I dislike the Wahabists and other Islamofascists as much as anyone,however,I won't impugn an entire faith because of the actions of a relatively small percentage of theocratic wacko's... By the way...Your phraseology of stamping this racial hatred(and violence) out is eerily reminiscent of some of the venom spewed by some of the lefty nutters a couple of weeks ago re.Anne Coulter and the protests at the Uof O.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 (edited) Isralie Apartied week will and is going to create an atmosphere where Jewish students are going to feel unsafe. This attack ,I believe if everything I heard is true, was fostered by Isralie Apartied week. It will give some Islamic youth the feeling they have a licence to go one step over hating Jewish students to the next step of violence.Apparently there are witness` to this machete attack and if the two victims were not fleet of foot someone may have been seriously hurt.By the way only one of the victims was Jewish. The thugs surmised the one who they centered their attack on was not. But he was being cursed as a Jew. So no one is safe from the hate being fostered by Isralie Apartied week. Be careful out there dear friends if you are mistaken as a Jew. Now the Gays have a problem because they are going to have a float in the Toronto Gay Pride condemning Israel. Now that one really is stupid. The only country where it is legal to be gay in the middle east is Israel and is a death penalty anywhere else. Some Jewish Gay people are really upset at their parade being high jacked. I would love to see some of these gay rights kooks complaining about Israel go to....I don't know...Downtown Riyadh...And after they were settled at their hotel,go to main street in that city and go full militant "Gay Pride Parade".I want to see them chant as loud and as much in unison as they can..."We're Queer!...We're Here!..Get used to it!"...And see how many seconds it takes before they're killed???? And then assuming all were not killed,or imprisoned,tortured,and then,killed...Go to Tel Aviv,do the same thing,and,describe the results.... Edited April 7, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Again, I don't know. Toronto is a very multicultural city (one of the most, in fact). Actually...Toronto is a city with many ethnic cliques.Multiculturalism suggests that evryone assocites with each other in acolour and ethnocentric blind fashion...It's a myth.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonam Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Pogroms???...Seriously...Pogroms???? Listen,I dislike the Wahabists and other Islamofascists as much as anyone,however,I won't impugn an entire faith because of the actions of a relatively small percentage of theocratic wacko's... Theocratic wackos? We don't know if these individuals were theocratic, or Wahabists, or Islamofascists. All we know is that it was a bunch of Arabs that, obviously, hated Jews. Hating Jews is very common among Arabs. By the way...Your phraseology of stamping this racial hatred(and violence) out is eerily reminiscent of some of the venom spewed by some of the lefty nutters a couple of weeks ago re.Anne Coulter and the protests at the Uof O.... Except, of course, that there were not mobs of people chasing anyone down in the streets and trying to murder them with knives, in relation to the Anne Coulter incident. The difference is quite clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Actually...Toronto is a city with many ethnic cliques.Multiculturalism suggests that evryone assocites with each other in acolour and ethnocentric blind fashion...It's a myth.. I don't know, I saw many people associated with each other when I was there. I'm sure there is a great deal of separation, but there's also a great deal of mingling, from what I've observed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Theocratic wackos? We don't know if these individuals were theocratic, or Wahabists, or Islamofascists. All we know is that it was a bunch of Arabs that, obviously, hated Jews. Hating Jews is very common among Arabs. Except, of course, that there were not mobs of people chasing anyone down in the streets and trying to murder them with knives, in relation to the Anne Coulter incident. The difference is quite clear. Hating Jews was,and is still,common among many Eastern European countries.Zionism was a 19th century geopolitical construct to find a Jewish homeland to get away from antisemetic persecution in Europe.People hating jews is not limited to any one faith/ethnic/or,anthropological group. According to Ezra Levant,there was an angry mob and the police told him,and the erstwhile Ms.Coulter,that they could not guarentee their safety.The folks at Rabble,along with the simpering bedwetters who cheered on the bedwetterfest,bleated gleefully how they had shut down the hate spewing Fascist Coulter....Take out your ideological bent,it's the same thing... If true,this should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law...as an aggravated assault....because that is what it is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 I don't know, I saw many people associated with each other when I was there. I'm sure there is a great deal of separation, but there's also a great deal of mingling, from what I've observed. I realize that,but the myth of multiculturalism is that we live in a co-operative,essentially colour blind,post-racial and ethnic society.We simply don't.What we have done is,by saying that anyone who comes here can be exactly what they were where they came from,minus the persecution in that persons homeland,and live their lives freely.The problem with that is that we do not have a mosaic that the proponents of multicuturalism say we have,but we have ethnic cliques...many times they are based on the old world prejudices that those very people were trying to escape.Toronto is a microcosm of this problem. I wish it were the mosaic that people wanted...It has'nt happened yet... Speaking of racialists..Rev. Al Sharpton is on The Colbert Report.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonam Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 (edited) Hating Jews was,and is still,common among many Eastern European countries.Zionism was a 19th century geopolitical construct to find a Jewish homeland to get away from antisemetic persecution in Europe.People hating jews is not limited to any one faith/ethnic/or,anthropological group. True. Yet I don't remember the last time I saw an article in the paper about a group of eastern Europeans in Canada with knives chasing a Jew down the street. Do you? According to Ezra Levant,there was an angry mob and the police told him,and the erstwhile Ms.Coulter,that they could not guarentee their safety.The folks at Rabble,along with the simpering bedwetters who cheered on the bedwetterfest,bleated gleefully how they had shut down the hate spewing Fascist Coulter....Take out your ideological bent,it's the same thing... I'm not sure if I understand your point. That the angry mob was wrong just as the Arab mob was wrong? If so, I agree. If true,this should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law...as an aggravated assault....because that is what it is... Yes, I'm sure they will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and get their severe punishment consisting of a few weeks of community service. I bet you the identified students who participated in the attack probably won't even be expelled. Edited April 7, 2010 by Bonam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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