Anne Coulter comes to Canada

[Smallc]

Lets take a look at his guests over the past few weeks shall we?

There were at least 3 conservatives in the last 2 weeks. That list doesn't include this week. Yes, he has more liberal than conservative guests, because he himself is more liberal. He doesn't agree with lots of stuff his liberal guests say though. You wouldn't know that, because you don't watch. I won't be lectured by you on intellectual dishonesty.

Not true. Being ideological has nothing to do with radical views. One can be completely ideological when it comes to mainstream views, or non-mainstream views. But being radical has nothing to do with it. However, it doesn't suprise me that you think that way.

Actually, you can't be a mainstream ideologue. Mainstream views are not impractical because generally, they exist in the real world. From Merriam-Webster:

Main Entry: ideo·logue

Variant(s): also idea·logue \ˈī-dē-ə-ˌlȯg, -ˌläg\

Function: noun

Etymology: French idéologue, back-formation from idéologie

Date: 1815

1 : an impractical idealist : theorist

2 : an often blindly partisan advocate or adherent of a particular ideology

True. But I don't consider comedians or commentators extremely smart. No matter how good they are. But again, that's just my opinion.

Right, and it's my opinion that he's smart. I didn't say you had to agree. Oh, and he's nothing like Ann Coulter. She's a comedian.

As far as I'm concerned, Michael Moore is an ideologue. Bill Maher isn't.

[waldo]

as an environmental justice advocate, RFK Jr.'s reference to 'racial minorities', I expect, reflects upon the inequitable, disproportionate and discriminatory positions racial minorities find themselves in regards to environmental risks, burdens, impacts, etc. I would think his inclusion of racial minorities as a part of what he describes as the 'nontraditional supporters' of the environmental "movement", reflects upon a premise that, for racial minorities, basic prioritization demands that pressing socioeconomic concerns take precedence over environmental issues.

Exactly. Except that Robert Kennedy participates in the tradition. Let the wind farms inconvenience the non-wealthy, and the racial minorities. When he's sipping 50 year old scotch off of the stern of his yacht on Martha's Vineyard, the last thing he wants to see is some wind turbines in the far off distance!

setting aside your basic disdain for liberals/celebrity and the entitlements you presume to cast upon them, RFK Jr.'s argument appears sound, but then again, have you ever actually argued anything on it's merits? You've never displayed an ability... or a want... to debate the subject matter itself. You prefer to take your drive-by shots, as the intellectually dishonest shyster you are. Have another dose of RFK Jr. and his position on the Cape Wind farm prospect... NYT op-ed - An Ill Wind Off Cape Cod:

[Shady]

Remind me again. Just what is Sarah Palin? Hmmmmm. Oh yeah ....... she's a commentator for Fox News.

Exactly. I don't consider Sarah Palin, or any other commentator "extremely smart." Actually, I'd even include most if not all politicians. To me, the term extremely smart confers genius. And anyone mentioned in this current thread is far from being any sort of genius.

[bush_cheney2004]

I agree with you for the most part. It's a little more difficult to catch the errors that get thrown around on these shows, but it's not that difficult. I would be very happy if they went off the air at the same time as Rush, and especially Beck.

But then what would Canadians have left to watch?

[Smallc]

But then what would Canadians have left to watch?

They'd just have to put RMR and 22 Minutes on more. It's too bad 22 Minutes has been cutback due to CBC funding issues.

[Shady]

They'd just have to put RMR and 22 Minutes on more. It's too bad 22 Minutes has been cutback due to CBC funding issues.

Yeah, that's just what we need. More tax dollars thrown at television programming nobody watches.

[Smallc]

Lots of people watch RMR. You don't, but of course you aren't interested in Canada. In fact, RMR has over 1M viewers, which isn't that far off of The Daily Show.

Edited March 21, 2010 by Smallc

[Shady]

He doesn't agree with lots of stuff his liberal guests say though.

Yes, he disagrees with them for not being liberal enough.

Main Entry: ideo·logue

Variant(s): also idea·logue \ˈī-dē-ə-ˌlȯg, -ˌläg\

Function: noun

Etymology: French idéologue, back-formation from idéologie

Date: 1815

1 : an impractical idealist : theorist

2 : an often blindly partisan advocate or adherent of a particular ideology

Yes, blindly partisan is how I would describe Bill Maher. He's a far-left ideologue. He's a big-government, anti-life, pro-illegal drugs, anti-religion, ideological advocate. Pure and simple.

It's interesting that you agree Michael Moore is an ideologue, but not Bill Maher. Where exactly do they differ on the issues of the day? And in terms of their ideology?

[Smallc]

It's interesting that you agree Michael Moore is an ideologue, but not Bill Maher. Where exactly do they differ on the issues of the day? And in terms of their ideology?

I've already told you. Bill Maher is a capitalist, meaning he doesn't stick to only left wing ideas. Michael Moore is not a capitalist.

[Smallc]

Yes, blindly partisan is how I would describe Bill Maher. He's a far-left ideologue. He's a big-government, anti-life, pro-illegal drugs, anti-religion, ideological advocate. Pure and simple.

Of course you would. You're the biggest Republican shill on this board. You spout their talking points as if they were your own ideas, and you argue with complete intellectual dishonesty.

[waldo]

There were at least 3 conservatives in the last 2 weeks. That list doesn't include this week. Yes, he has more liberal than conservative guests, because he himself is more liberal. He doesn't agree with lots of stuff his liberal guests say though. You wouldn't know that, because you don't watch. I won't be lectured by you on intellectual dishonesty.

on occasion, albeit rare, there have been more conservatives on the panel... Maher's actually talked about the difficulty they have getting conservative politicians to come on the show - besides, fair & balanced Fox News should be Shady's sole respite (/snarc)... the juxtaposition of Shady and 'real time' anything, is such a non-starter. I find one of the best parts of the show involves hearing some of the guests move beyond the preconceived notions I held of them - Eliot Spitzer is a recent case in point. And any time one can hear Dennis Kucinich being questioned in a less constrained setting, as per last weeks episode, it reinforces the broad failing that exists throughout politics - where appearance/perception within the public eye overrides the substance that some politicians bring/hold.

[Smallc]

I completely agree Waldo. It's completely opened my eyes to American politics as they really happen without the crappy crappy US media getting in the way.

[Jack Weber]

Yep, no different than Michael Moore, Bill Maher, or Jon Stewart. Except that she's smarter.

I agree with you on Moore.Both Maher and Stewart love to point out ideological silliness and inconsistencies on both sides of the political spectrum.In my opinion,you're wrong on trying to pigeonhole both of them

Anne Coulter is not necessarily smarter...She's just more visceral about her absolute hatred for anyone who does not follow her rigid right wing view of the world.That may appeal to you,however from what I've read in most of your posts,all you seem to be looking for is an extreme right wing reaffirmation excercise....Kinda like Coulter.

[Jack Weber]

I completely agree Waldo. It's completely opened my eyes to American politics as they really happen without the crappy crappy US media getting in the way.

I have'nt watched Maher recently.I used to watch Politically Incorrect religiously,however.I thought it was absolutely shameful how that show was taken off the air!

[Shady]

Anne Coulter is not necessarily smarter...She's just more visceral about her absolute hatred for anyone who does not follow her rigid right wing view of the world.

That's just not true. She uses the same type of edgy satire and wit that Bill Maher uses. You just don't like her because of her politics.

It's interesting. When Ann Coulter uses edgy language related to politics, she's visceral, and hate-filled. However, when Bill Maher uses the same type of language, or even goes about wishing certain Republicans and Conservatives dead, he's applauded for it.

[Smallc]

What's funny is that you just don't get it. They aren't at all the same.

[Shady]

What's funny is that you just don't get it. They aren't at all the same.

What's the difference?

[BubberMiley]

She uses the same type of edgy satire and wit that Bill Maher uses.

Satire is precisely the right word. I always get the impression from watching her is that she is in on the joke, and there's always a trace of a wink at the camera. Like Glenn Beck, who gives a clue to his true beliefs by including in a rant against "progressivism" praise for the ability to freely seek knowledge at the public library. They know that being fringy and unbalanced sells to the common denominator, but they don't seem to actually buy it themselves.

[Smallc]

Ann Coulter is an ideologue. Ann Coulter isn't a comedian. Ann Coulter thinks everyone else is stupid and won't even listen to other ideas.

[bush_cheney2004]

Ann Coulter is an ideologue. Ann Coulter isn't a comedian. Ann Coulter thinks everyone else is stupid and won't even listen to other ideas.

...and she has sold many more books than Michael Ignatieff.

[Smallc]

Right....

[bush_cheney2004]

Right....

.....now in Canada...again. Maybe it's just her publicist, but I think not.

[Pliny]

Ann Coulter is an ideologue. Ann Coulter isn't a comedian. Ann Coulter thinks everyone else is stupid and won't even listen to other ideas.

I don't think she thinks everyone else is stupid, just the far left. They think everyone else is stupid.

[Smallc]

You and her probably have a similar view of who is far left. I don't think you'd find many people agreeing with you on that. She thinks that everyone other than right wing fanatics are stupid.

[bush_cheney2004]

... She thinks that everyone other than right wing fanatics are stupid.

Nonsense...the very characterization of "stupid" is way off base. Coulter prevails on her native landscape...would have been charged and jailed in Canada by now. She better be careful in Ontariario.

Edited March 21, 2010 by bush_cheney2004