Anne Coulter comes to Canada

[Born Free]

I stand vindicated....

http://www.humanevents.com/search.php?author_name=Ann+Coulter

Not a legal story in the lot. At least, not where Lexpert will be asking her for a submission.

I would have thought that Anne would have vetted her own website bona fides. Perhaps accuracy isnt important in her work...

[Michael Hardner]

Now in what way do you presume this relates to Canada other than that a number of people here on the Left seem to want to embrace and adopt that very sort of attitude here - if only they could change the government to one of their liking.

There's a strange phenomenon whereby good right-of-center posters step in to assist on the arguments of not-as-good right-of-center-posters. It's kind of disappointing, because my whole schtick was that I was exploiting the vagueness of his comments on "other countries".

So, your correction is correct, but it's not his correction.

[Born Free]

We sent Zundel away not because he was getting a following (he wasn't) but becuase he offended the delicate sensibilities of you Lefties.

....silliness to say the most.

[Smallc]

Levant was on TV this morning claiming there were numerous threats, and that a facebook group organized for the protest had specific instructions on what to bring to throw at her (ie, eggs, fruits, etc) and how to shout in unison so she would be drowned out and wouldn't be able to speak.

Ok, throwing things is bad, but if she has freedom of speech, don't they?

[Argus]

coulter quotes

would these comments have been at all out of place in the Third Reich?

Comparing Coulter's brash, boorish insults to Nazis really is the height of intellectual stupidity and bankruptcy. I mean, where did you got to school? Do you know anything about the Third Reich? Did you even got to school? In this country, I mean?

what does it say about people who champion her? some of these people are on this forum...this thing is a NAZI and nothing less

It says that unlike you rabid ultra-left wing foreign types Canadians belief in freedom of speech.

[M.Dancer]

I Find it interesting that this gov't would not let a spokesperson for CodePink into this country, a group of women advocating the end to the wars in the middle east, but evidently found nothing wrong with Coulter who openly promotes hate and war.

Welcome back...it's been awhile since I last corrected your misinformation...

U.S. activist allowed into Canada despite FBI warning

Coulter by the way, does not have a criminal record.

[Argus]

Some do.It's usually because of a misreading of the political spectrum as a straight line.I was told to read it more like a horseshoe where the extremes of the political right and left are closer together than the democratic versions.Extreme fascism and extreme socialism(communism,Marxism,Maoism,Stalinism etc) are both top down,totalitarian ideologies.The main differences between the two are the quasi freemarket issue and private property issue that shows up in fascist states.

The reason people use the term facist is because our culture is replete with imagery of fascists as the epiteme of the evil, thought-controlling dictatorship. Everyone knows that the term 'fascist' used in this way signifies an authoritarian mindset which seeks to control and punish those with different opinions. Now the Communists were actually even more controlling and dictatorial, but we don't have the imagery in our cultural background so no one uses it. Besides, facists are often just considered cruel, ugly, thoughtless vandals while Communists are given a more complete ideological framework. Thus the left have often called the police or government agencies Facist, even though there is no ideological justification.

[Argus]

You don't see the difference... really? really?

Doesn't matter if there's a difference. If he calls himself a comedian who makes political commentary while she calls herself a political commentator who tells jokes. The point is that if Coulter was black there'd not have been much of a protest because the brainless Left can't bring itself to protest against visible minorities.

[Argus]

We can see in the Left much of the influence of Communism which begat the softer gentler version of communism (Socialism). Like Communism, much of the Left despise those who refuse to acknowledge the righteousness of their ideological beliefs. Like Communists, they feel the proper response to those with a different opinion is to punish them; to shut them down, to lock them up. The Left in Canada, and in much of the world, fears and hates those with a different political belief.

As an example i've used before, you can be pro life or pro choice and still be a Liberal or Conservative. You can be in favour of gay rights, or opposed to them. You can be in favour of the death penalty, or opposed to it.

If you're an NDPer you believe as the party beliefs. It's their way or the highway, up and down the line. Vary even minutely from groupthink and you're out. I sometimes think the NDP should be dressed all alike, perhaps in Mao suits, and parading up and down on parliament hill in synch, chanting marxist slogans.

But groupthink is what the Left is all about, and what you see when some right winger like Coulter shows up is how angry and stirred up all the Lefties get, shaking their firsts and spitting with rage that someone not only disagrees with them but does so quite openly and rudely.

Doublethink is another notorious example of that wierd Leftist mindset. You can see it here in Lefties claiming stopping someone from talking is a victory for freedom of speech. One of the more amusing examples was the clown spokesman for some of the protestors, a Human Rights major(!), talking about how she organized because they were so desperately concerned that Coulter might offend people's sensibilities by talking about camels and flying carpets, horrifed at the prospect that "discriminatory rhetoric" would be used by the woman, and quite pleased she didn't get to speak.

But then, in Canada, to the Left, the concept of Human Rights has an entirely different meaning. It doesn't have anything to do with freedom of speech, religion, assembly or association. Human Rights is interepeted as their "right" to not be offended by anything which goes against their closed little minds.

You'd think a "Human rights major" would know that, but then, this it the UofO, so perhaps even her professors don't undrestand the concept. It's not like anyone with brains would teach there.

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[Born Free]

Doesn't matter if there's a difference. If he calls himself a comedian who makes political commentary while she calls herself a political commentator who tells jokes. The point is that if Coulter was black there'd not have been much of a protest because the brainless Left can't bring itself to protest against visible minorities.

..... and the brainless extreme right cant see her for what she really is...

[Smallc]

And freedom of speech does not include showing up at a hall where someone is supposed to give a speech and then just shouting and making noise so they can't talk.

Well, that's to be debated I suppose. The university isn't a private venue, after all.

[GostHacked]

Hopefully she won't be coming back to Ottawa anytime soon, if ever.

[g_bambino]

The university isn't a private venue, after all.

But it is, partly. Students pay tuition to attend.

[Argus]

..... and the brainless extreme right cant see her for what she really is...

A rabble rousing blowhard. So what? The difference is that the right believes in freedom of speech and the Left doesn't.

[Argus]

Well, that's to be debated I suppose. The university isn't a private venue, after all.

When you rent a hall for someone to speak that gives you the right to have them speak. If the protestors want to speak they can rent their own hall.

And quite aside from thatt there's an elementary Canadian notion of fairness involved which says that you let someone speak, and then you disagree with them. You don't shout and scream so they can't speak.

[GostHacked]

You don't shout and scream so they can't speak.

Ah you are familiar with Right-Wing tactics then.

[g_bambino]

Ok, throwing things is bad, but if she has freedom of speech, don't they?

Perhaps "speech" is too general a term; chanting is a form of speech, but screeching it so that your opponent’s words can't be heard is merely another form of censorship. Some strictures are required to ensure the free exchange of ideas (even though Coulter's idea of an idea may not be the same as most sane people's); "freedom of debate" is probably more specifically what we mean when we say "freedom of speech".

[Argus]

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Edited March 24, 2010 by Argus

[g_bambino]

You have a number of cites, I'm sure...

It's not Canadian, but some of the health care "town hall" meetings in the US are an example.

[M.Dancer]

Two things I'm sure of..

Coulter got paid anyway

This is an embarrassment not just for the University...

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2010/03/ann-coulter-is-afraid-of-canadians.html

http://www.ajc.com/news/coulter-speech-canceled-amid-399305.html?cxntlid=thbz_hm

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5grH5rnCyMoqFbARVHi9zhJY-kQnAD9EKVOKG1

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thegaggle/archive/2010/03/23/canada-to-ann-coulter-watch-your-mouth.aspx

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/03/ann_coulter_vs_the_mob_fearing.html

and so on....

[Sir Bandelot]

No one here thinks you're a conservative.

I guess you would know what everyone else here thinks about me. Not like I give a shit anyway.

Liberals want to force free speech down our throats, and tha's you, booby

[M.Dancer]

Liberals want to force free speech down our throats, and tha's you, booby

Logic bomb

[Topaz]

Did any of you realize that the universities Coulter invited to were all in Tories ridings and that a Harper advisor spoke also at them? That same guy, was on CBC defending Coulter. You know the Harris Tories had a scam, were there isn't a crisis, make one. So here we have another "problem" and I wonder if this is suppose to take away from the No.1 thorn in the Tories side....the detainee documents.

[Shwa]

Honestly, what planet are you living on? This tour has already been a huge success from her perspective. She was virtually unknown to the Canadian mainstream. Now she's getting massive publicity, and the fact that thousands of wack jobs turned out to scream her down last night will just push up sales of her books and other junk. I'm sure she and her business manager are high-fiving each other.

For sure, I mean, look what this sort of thing did for Andrew Dice Clay and his book sales and movie career and other junk. He had his groupies I am sure.

[Born Free]

......I wonder if this is suppose to take away from the No.1 thorn in the Tories side....the detainee documents.

Hopefully, the news folks will refocus on that and soon....