DrGreenthumb Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Libby Davies(NDP), Ujjal Dosanj(Liberal), and Scott Reid(Conservative), all asked the justice minister Rob Nicholson to refuse to extradite Marc Scott Emery, Canada's "Prince of Pot". THey presented a petetition containing thousands of signatures, in a a rare showing of cross party co-operation to ask the justice minister to stop this travesty of justice. Contact Rob Nicholson and tell him to refuse extradition. Also take the time to call these three excellent MP's and thank them for standing up for a patriotic Canadian like Marc. Most people only call when they are pissed about something. When MP's do something good like this we should call them to voice our support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Libby Davies(NDP), Ujjal Dosanj(Liberal), and Scott Reid(Conservative), all asked the justice minister Rob Nicholson to refuse to extradite Marc Scott Emery, Canada's "Prince of Pot". THey presented a petetition containing thousands of signatures, in a a rare showing of cross party co-operation to ask the justice minister to stop this travesty of justice. Contact Rob Nicholson and tell him to refuse extradition. Also take the time to call these three excellent MP's and thank them for standing up for a patriotic Canadian like Marc. Most people only call when they are pissed about something. When MP's do something good like this we should call them to voice our support. I don't see why this person should be excused from following the law. He knew the rules, and he broke them. What kind of precedent does it set if we go back on our extradition agreements ? Not a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 (edited) Also take the time to call these three excellent MP's and thank them for standing up for a patriotic Canadian like Marc. Patriotic? What in the world has he done that's "patriotic?" Edited March 16, 2010 by American Woman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Patriotic? What in the world has he done that's "patriotic?" He smoked pot, which is the Canadian equivalent of the 'pledge of allegiance'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alta4ever Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Patriotic? What in the world has he done that's "patriotic?" Supporting dr. Greenthumbs values the MP's are patriotic, when following anyone elses they are vile bourgeoisie moral less sub humans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Calling him "patriotic" for breaking the law is just mind boggling bizarre. MP's having no respect for America's laws is also a bit difficult to understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I think it's because they probably consider those particular laws to be somewhat draconian (ours are arguably nearly as draconian). I'm sure they don't respect the fact that America's uses the death penalty either...and we don't extradite if the death penalty is on the table. Perhaps they see this as a similar type of case (much less severe of course). That said, I don't consider Mr. Emery to be patriotic for what he did...not at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I think it's because they probably consider those particular laws to be somewhat draconian (ours are arguably nearly as draconian). I'm sure they don't respect the fact that America's uses the death penalty either...and we don't extradite if the death penalty is on the table. Perhaps they see this as a similar type of case (much less severe of course). It sounds as if he'd have to do five years, which I don't think is off-the-wall for what he knowingly did. And the key word there is 'knowingly.' Why should he get off just because he'd get a lighter sentence in Canada? Like I said, it's total disrespect for our laws, and I think he did it expecting to be protected by the fact that he's in Canada and would have to be extradited. The fact that MPs are now calling for his protection is an invitation for anyone in Canada to break America's laws. That said, I don't consider Mr. Emery to be patriotic for what he did...not at all. The fact that your laws are nearly as 'draconian' as our makes it all the more difficult to figure where DrGreenthumb is coming from. Not to mention the MP's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Bandelot Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Patriotism aside, why was he not charged under Canadian law for what he did? He must have sold his "products" in Canada as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonam Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 (edited) I think it's because they probably consider those particular laws to be somewhat draconian (ours are arguably nearly as draconian). Our laws in Canada are "draconian"? You've got to be kidding me. We've got one of the laxest justice systems around. Edited March 16, 2010 by Bonam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Our laws in Canada are "draconian"? You've got to be kidding me. We've got one of the laxest justice systems around. I'm talking about our marijuana laws..and many European countries would consider our sentences for many things to be draconian. Norway for example, has outlawed the life sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Like I said, it's total disrespect for our laws, Well, they are free to try to convince the government. That is their right, regardless of your laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alta4ever Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I'm talking about our marijuana laws..and many European countries would consider our sentences for many things to be draconian. Norway for example, has outlawed the life sentence. So have we, since when is 25 years a life sentence. A life sentence should mean your in until you come out in a box that would be a life sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 (edited) So have we, since when is 25 years a life sentence. A life sentence should mean your in until you come out in a box that would be a life sentence. I think you need to read the law. It's 25 to life. That means they are able to apply for parole after 25 years, it doesn't mean that they get out. The life sentence very much exists in Canada. Edited March 16, 2010 by Smallc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alta4ever Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I think you need to read the law. It's 25 to life. That means they are able to apply for parole after 25 years, it doesn't mean that they get out. The life sentence very much exists in Canada. I wish I could find a statistic for you on how many issued a life sentence that don't even serve the 25 five years most are out in 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonam Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I'm talking about our marijuana laws..and many European countries would consider our sentences for many things to be draconian. Norway for example, has outlawed the life sentence. Our marijuana laws don't seem draconian. Prohibitions against marijuana have repeatedly been diluted or overturned in courts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_legalization_in_Canada#Key_court_decisions As for outlawing the life sentence... heh. Well, firstly, let's just say that a life sentence for someone that's committed sufficiently serious offenses is far from draconian. Secondly, almost no life sentences in Canada are actually "life". It's 25 years, minus double credit for time served, minus early release after 2/3 of term, etc. Life sentence effectively may as well not exist in Canada except for a very few extremely rare cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Well, they are free to try to convince the government. That is their right, regardless of your laws. So according to the MPs' way of thinking, other nation's laws should only be respected if they are exactly the same as Canada's. Do you honestly think it's ok to knowingly break another nation's laws, knowing full well what the penalties are for breaking those laws, and then not be held accountable? You think it's right that Canada protects a citizen under those circumstances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I wish I could find a statistic for you on how many issued a life sentence that don't even serve the 25 five years most are out in 10. If they were charged with say, first degree murder? They only have one chance to get that parole amount reduced, and they soon won't even have that option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 It's 25 years, minus double credit for time served, minus early release after 2/3 of term, etc. 25 years with no change of parole, double credit doesn't exist anymore, or soon won't, and early release cannot happen in the 25 year to life case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 (edited) . Edited March 16, 2010 by Smallc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 So according to the MPs' way of thinking, other nation's laws should only be respected if they are exactly the same as Canada's. I'm not sure, I'm not them. Do you honestly think it's ok to knowingly break another nation's laws, knowing full well what the penalties are for breaking those laws, and then not be held accountable? No, generally, and I didn't say that I agreed with the MPs. I do however respect their rights as they are defined. You think it's right that Canada protects a citizen under those circumstances? Well, that depends. I think it's right to protect them from say, death or torture, but otherwise, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Kwon Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 (edited) . Edited August 22, 2010 by Thomas Kwon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I believe Cannabis seeds (aka his products) are legal to possess in Canada while it is not in USA. Can someone confirm this? Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 I believe Cannabis seeds (aka his products) are legal to possess in Canada while it is not in USA. Can someone confirm this? Doesn't matter, he was breaking the law in the US. I'm sick of self absorbed idiots like him who hide behind this country while breaking the laws of another and then expect this country to save him from the consequences of his own actions. A fight he went looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 (edited) Calling him "patriotic" for breaking the law is just mind boggling bizarre. MP's having no respect for America's laws is also a bit difficult to understand. And so how do you feel about Chinese sedition and security laws and their application? Edited March 17, 2010 by ToadBrother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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