CP Learns that CSIS interrogated tortured Afghan Detainees

[nicky10013]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canadian-spies-interrogated-afghan-prisoners-insiders-reveal/article1492713/

Pretty big bombshell.

Also, Canadian spies "harshly" interrogated an Egyptian man which directly led to the torture of a Canadian in Egyptian custody.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/csis-interrogation-likely-worsened-canadians-torture-in-egypt/article1479225/

No doubt, Canadian complicity in poor treatment of detainees in Afghanistan could lead to incredibly bad treatment if a Canadian was ever captured.

This all follows on the heels of a CBC report on a law professor who claims to have seen the documents which say Canadian officials wanted the detainees tortured for intelligence.

http://www.cbc.ca/politics/story/2010/03/05/afghan-attaran005.html

[M.Dancer]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canadian-spies-interrogated-afghan-prisoners-insiders-reveal/article1492713/

No doubt, Canadian complicity in poor treatment of detainees in Afghanistan could lead to incredibly bad treatment if a Canadian was ever captured.

Worse than being beheaded?

....point is the Taliban do not take prisoners....beyond taking them and killimh them that is.

[M.Dancer]

CP Learns that CSIS interrogated tortured Afghan Detainees

I did not see that in the article.

[Mr.Canada]

I doubt that the average Canadian cares if the enemies of Canada who have killed Canadian soldiers were tortured or not. Only people that seem to care are the socialists who seem to place more value of the lives of foriegners then they do their own countrymen.

[Smallc]

Sorry, but I think that Canadians will care about this.

[Mr.Canada]

Sorry, but I think that Canadians will care about this.

So these people kill Canadian soldiers and we care more about their well being then our own? That is truly sad. They're the enemy, not our friends, they kill Canadian soldiers I cannot say I have a whole lot of sympathy for them.

The socialists are trying to fabricate another ABu Gharib here but they are seemingly missing the fact that if any abuse took place it was the Afgans who did it not Canadians.

Edited March 8, 2010 by Mr.Canada

[Shakeyhands]

I doubt that the average Canadian cares if the enemies of Canada who have killed Canadian soldiers were tortured or not. Only people that seem to care are the socialists who seem to place more value of the lives of foriegners then they do their own countrymen.

Thankfully I think you are wrong. I also think you are ignorant.

[Jerry J. Fortin]

Sorry, but I think that Canadians will care about this.

Here is Iggy's ball. The public will soon find out if he really wants to play or just look pretty wearing a suit. I grow tired of the political landscape and seek some sort of resolution to this bottomless pit of partisan foolishness. The damned government is supposed to be working for the benefit of all Canadians, and this childish behavior played out before my eyes for my entire adult life is a cause of concern to me. I see no positive future for this nation because we have no dreams and aspirations such as a political will and goal of achievement to strive for.

The nation needs a visionary leader.

[Mr.Canada]

Thankfully I think you are wrong. I also think you are ignorant.

What am I ignorant of?

[M.Dancer]

I fail to see what the issue is. I would hope that CSIS interrogates prisoners....they have to earn their pay cheque like everyone else.

[groupeii]

This is why war halfway across the world with people who didn't interfere in Canadian society is stupid.

It is was called the department of defence not the department of offence.

[DrGreenthumb]

This is why war halfway across the world with people who didn't interfere in Canadian society is stupid.

It is was called the department of defence not the department of offence.

Does anyone still believe that high ranking Conservative government officials were not aware of torture and violations of the geneva convention?

[M.Dancer]

Does anyone still believe that high ranking Conservative government officials were not aware of torture and violations of the geneva convention?

What violations of the geneva convention?

[nicky10013]

Worse than being beheaded?

....point is the Taliban do not take prisoners....beyond taking them and killimh them that is.

Actually they do. They've taken quite a few Americans that have turned up alive.

[M.Dancer]

Actually they do. They've taken quite a few Americans that have turned up alive.

Link...?

[nicky10013]

I fail to see what the issue is. I would hope that CSIS interrogates prisoners....they have to earn their pay cheque like everyone else.

The problem is that it has been noted quite a few times (according to the article) that CSIS wanted to get rid of the detainees as quickly as possible leading to speculation that they wanted these people to face harsher interrogations so they could get more information.

[nicky10013]

Link...?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/07/02/world/main5129132.shtml

[Moonbox]

Sorry, but I think that Canadians will care about this.

Personally I doubt they will care enough to do anything about it. I've yet to hear this come up in conversation EVER with ANYONE.

[eyeball]

I doubt that the average Canadian cares if the enemies of Canada who have killed Canadian soldiers were tortured or not. Only people that seem to care are the socialists who seem to place more value of the lives of foriegners then they do their own countrymen.

Actually we place more value on upholding Canadian principles than you do. I doubt if the average Canadian doesn't give a shit about these principles but I guess I have to allow for the off chance they actually don't.

If that's really the case I'll feel even more ashamed and duty bound to attack any countrymen who encourage our government to crap on people's human rights in my name.

You people are the real problem here. I don't think our government would be tempted to behave as badly as it's been alleged without a sycophantic 5th column beating the drum for the fear and loathing that's used to justify it's actions.

Shame on you assholes.

[Shakeyhands]

Actually we place more value on upholding Canadian principles than you do. I doubt if the average Canadian doesn't give a shit about these principles but I guess I have to allow for the off chance they actually don't.

If that's really the case I'll feel even more ashamed and duty bound to attack any countrymen who encourage our government to crap on people's human rights in my name.

You people are the real problem here. I don't think our government would be tempted to behave as badly as it's been alleged without a sycophantic 5th column beating the drum for the fear and loathing that's used to justify it's actions.

Shame on you assholes.

Exactly.

[M.Dancer]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/07/02/world/main5129132.shtml

from quite a few to....

But the only other service member that officials could recall who had been captured was Petty Officer 1st class Neil C. Roberts, a 32-year-old Navy SEAL who was captured during a battle.

Roberts fell from a Chinook and was captured and killed by al Qaeda just months after the start of the war, in March 2002. Later, a second helicopter returned under fire and dropped troops near where Roberts fell. Six more Americans died in the fighting.

And no word whether the man was killed as per usual with the Taliban.

[eyeball]

Personally I doubt they will care enough to do anything about it. I've yet to hear this come up in conversation EVER with ANYONE.

I've heard it and I'm actually starting to see a little heat coming up from under a few collars too. I can hardly wait until the government starts getting on with its plan to buff up Canada's cenotaph's.

I'd like to think the little photo-opportunistic ceremonies that are bound to spring up around these projects will provide excellent opportunities to protest how a country's misguided and mismanaged use of it's security and intelligence agencies only contribute to more dead Canadian soldiers and a more tattered Canadian reputation.

Edited March 8, 2010 by eyeball

[M.Dancer]

how a country's misguided and mismanaged use of it's security and intelligence agencies only contribute to more dead Canadian soldiers and a more tattered Canadian reputation.

Do think there's enough tinfoil around to prove that?

[Mr.Canada]

Actually we place more value on upholding Canadian principles than you do. I doubt if the average Canadian doesn't give a shit about these principles but I guess I have to allow for the off chance they actually don't.

If that's really the case I'll feel even more ashamed and duty bound to attack any countrymen who encourage our government to crap on people's human rights in my name.

You people are the real problem here. I don't think our government would be tempted to behave as badly as it's been alleged without a sycophantic 5th column beating the drum for the fear and loathing that's used to justify it's actions.

Shame on you assholes.

It's alleged that Afgans tourterd the taliban members, not Canadians. We did our job of handing over POW's to the nation we're supporting. What they do is up to them. We don't have any rights to tell a foreign nation how to secure their nation, that's up to them. Afganistan isn't like Canada and you need to accept that. They are free to govern as they see fit. It's Afganistan not socialist Canada.

You think it's Canada's place to tell a foreign nation how to conduct its affairs, I don't.

[nicky10013]

from quite a few to....

And no word whether the man was killed as per usual with the Taliban.

Excuse me, I must've been thinking of Iraq, as if they're any more moderate than the Taliban. Either way, you just made a statement "as per usual" with the Taliban. You've just proved that there was only one other capture of an American in Afghanistan by the Taliban. Not exactly usual. Try again.