Obama speaking in classroom

[GostHacked]

...but you said...nevermind.

Good call!

[Shakeyhands]

Wow... you forget how much of a terrible speaker W. was...

[bloodyminded]

Why...I had a full ride scholarship. Palin sells books...lots of 'em...deal with it.

There's nothing to deal with. It's no skin off my back. I'm only pointing out the incontestable fact that Palin didn't write her book.

And you, hilariously, were unaware of this salient fact. So much for your vaunted "education."

Then I suggest you take remedial math (e.g. "100% of the credit" ).

Sure, Palin posing for a photograph is truly impressive. I understand. Did you get that from school? Or are you as opposed to "book-larnin'" as is Ms. Palin?

I think you've got a cute little crush on the End-times Fundamentalist. You're very sensitive. About the witch-hunter, and about your most excellent education.

But then, no one is more delicate and dainty than the American Right Wing. You guys are almost adorable. Almost.

[Shady]

No. Just the truth. The Republicans still won't take the house in 2010. If you think they have in the bag, you are, once again, delusional.

When did I ever say that have it in the bag? Although, it's looking better and better everyday!

G.O.P. Seeks to Widen Field of Play in Fall Elections

Stuart Rothenberg, a political analyst who follows Congressional races, said a report he will release Monday will count 58 Democratic House seats in play, up from 47 in December. The number of Republican seats in play has held at 14 in that period, he said. And Democrats expect more of their incumbents to retire, which could put additional seats at risk.

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I'm only pointing out the incontestable fact that Palin didn't write her book.

Ghost writers are a part of most memoires. It's an incontestable fact that Bill Ayers help Barack Obama with his book.

Sure, Palin posing for a photograph is truly impressive. I understand. Did you get that from school? Or are you as opposed to "book-larnin'" as is Ms. Palin?

Why is Palin opposed to book-larnin? Because you say so?

[Born Free]

Why is Palin opposed to book-larnin? Because you say so?

Apparently Palin stood at the top of the Capitol Building the other day and declared...."Hey I can see Haiti from here!"

[BubberMiley]

It's an incontestable fact that Bill Ayers help Barack Obama with his book.

Now I understand your relationship to the truth. If something is true but you don't like it, it's false and a lie. If something is false but you wish it were true (and can't support it with any evidence other than from those who are as divorced from reality in far-right la-la land as you are), then it's an incontestable fact.

That's some custom-made "truth detector" you have there.

[Shady]

Now I understand your relationship to the truth. If something is true but you don't like it, it's false and a lie. If something is false but you wish it were true (and can't support it with any evidence other than from those who are as divorced from reality in far-right la-la land as you are), then it's an incontestable fact.

That's some custom-made "truth detector" you have there.

Sorry, I was just poking fun at his ridiculous criticizm of Palin having a ghost writer. As for the Republican election prospects, I believe I backed all that up, and then some.

[BubberMiley]

As for the Republican election prospects, I believe I backed all that up, and then some.

In terms of the GOP taking the House in 2010, even Michael "Not this year" Steele would say "worst prediction ever!"

[Shady]

In terms of the GOP taking the House in 2010, even Michael "Not this year" Steele would say "worst prediction ever!"

You seem to be completely clueless.

Democrats currently have 49 seats listed as Lean or Toss Up.

Republicans currently have 10 seats listed as Lean or Toss Up.

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Cook Report on intensity gap: "If this level remains constant, you can count on the Democratic majority in the House being toast this fall"

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You're still living in the political environment of a year ago. Wake up and smell the coffee!

[BubberMiley]

You seem to be completely clueless.

I'm referring to what Michael Steele said. Are you calling him clueless?

[Shady]

I'm referring to what Michael Steele said. Are you calling him clueless?

He said he didn't think that Republicans could take back the house. He didn't say that it wasn't possible.

Anyways, looks like Jon Stewart agrees with me on Obama's classroom teleprompter!

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Once again, I'm right, and most of you are terribly, terribly wrong. And once again, it's American Woman and Bubber leading the pack!

You both get gold medals in ineptitude.

[BubberMiley]

He said he didn't think that Republicans could take back the house. He didn't say that it wasn't possible.

He said "Not this year." Spin that however you like. I'm sure that whatever wild-eyed interpretation you come up with will be the "correct" one.

[Shady]

He said "Not this year." Spin that however you like. I'm sure that whatever wild-eyed interpretation you come up with will be the "correct" one.

Are you purposely being stupid?

Steele said in a TV interview that he didn't believe Republicans could win enough seats to take control of the House in 2010.

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Yes, a few weeks ago, he didn't think that Republicans could win enough seats to take the house. However, things have certainly changed since then. And as I posted, several political prognosticators, most notibly, Charlie Cook, have dramatically changed the expected scenario. If you choose not to see or read the links, that's definitely your prerogative. But don't tell me i'm spinning, or interpreting anything. It's not my conclusion. It's the conclusion of political professionals. The same professionals who called the Dem take over of congress. If you have a beef, take it up with them!

And I'll take your silence on the Jon Stewart/Obama teleprompter issue as an apology.

[BubberMiley]

You said Steele didn't say it wasn't possible when he said "Not this year." That's called spin.

I'm often silent when Jon Stewart makes a joke. This never means I'm apologizing to you. I'm not sure where in your universe you thought there was a connection, but there isn't.

[August1991]

The TOTUS argument isn't necessarily about intelligence, it's about a certain level of detachment, and I would say coldness, and an endless need for scripted dialogue.

Obama is neither cold nor detached. He wisely uses the teleprompter because he knows that he usually speaks to several million people - some of whom look for the tiniest flaw.

Reagan also used a teleprompter, and his critics noted this fact endlessly. To no effect.

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When teh Right criticizes Obama as TOTUS, it is playing the man not the ball. This was a fundamental mistake of the Left when criticizing Bush Jnr. and Reagan.

Obama is a smart guy. If the Right follows him, it'll lose. If the Right looks at where the ball will be, it might beat him.

No. Just the truth. The Republicans still won't take the house in 2010. If you think they have in the bag, you are, once again, delusional.

But the double majority Senate is already lost. And I think many Democrats are already looking at marginal seats in the House.

More fundamentally, local Democrats are now wondering about Obama's coattails.

Alright, back for this one more post. This thread has been a train wreck I could hardly peel my eyes away from.

Giggle. Well said!

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I don't know if Palin wrote her book with help. I haven't read it or even looked at it.

I suspect Obama wrote his books with help - but then, I'm not sure. They are not works of literature; they read like books written by a politician. (Obama is no Vaclav Havel or Pierre Trudeau.) In the talking book versions of Obama's two books, he does the various voices and accents - and he does them very well.

Edited January 27, 2010 by August1991

[Shady]

Obama is neither cold nor detached.

He may not be, but perception is reality in politics. And more photo-ops like this classroom incident will only reinforce that perception.

Captain Obvious Learns the Limits of Cool

But when he failed to immediately step up to the microphones in Hawaii after the Christmas terror and thank the passengers for bravely foiling the plot that his intelligence community had failed to see, President Cool reached the limits of cool.

No Drama Obama is reticent about displays of emotion. The Spock in him needs to exert mental and emotional control. That is why he stubbornly insists on staying aloof and setting his own deliberate pace for responding — whether it’s in a debate or after a debacle.

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Why Obama's Cool Comes off as Cold

Obama's coolness and detachment put him in a different category that includes Lincoln (on the positive side) and Jimmy Carter (on the negative). His relationship with the world is primarily analytical rather than intuitive or emotional. As he acknowledged in his interview with George Stephanopoulos the day after Scott Brown's victory, his tendency to focus on substance can make him seem remote and technocratic.

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Again, idiotic photo-ops like this latest one only reinforce this growing narrative. You can disagree with it all you want. But in the end, you're wrong.

[bloodyminded]

Sorry, I was just poking fun at his ridiculous criticizm of Palin having a ghost writer.

It's not a ridiculous criticism; it's an objective truth.

The "answer" to this was that Obama did this as well...with Bill Ayres.

Now first of all, i suspect this "fact" was invented out of whole cloth. But it doesn't matter anyway, because it's irrelevant to the original fact itself.

You see, I was informed that Palin's authorship was evidence of her talent. But she didn't write her book...which proves the original assertion wrong.

[Shady]

It's not a ridiculous criticism; it's an objective truth.

I'm aware that Sarah Palin had a ghost writer. What I was objecting to, was the criticizm that she used one. The vast majority of memoires involve some collaboration with multiple writers.

But again, what Sarah Palin does or doesn't do, isn't a defence of Obama's ineptitude.

Edited January 27, 2010 by Shady

[bloodyminded]

I'm aware that Sarah Palin had a ghost writer. What I was objecting to, was the criticizm that she used one. The vast majority of memoires involve some collaboration with multiple writers.

When the subject isn't much of an author, yes.

But normally, "collaboration" is done with an editor. A ghostwriter does most or all of the actual writing.

But again, what Sarah Palin does or doesn't do, isn't a defence of Obama's ineptitude.

My comments weren't about Obama in any way. You brought him up. You seem to think a criticism of Palin (which, again, was my RESPONSE to someone implying what a successful "writer" she is) must imply support for Obama.

For...some reason, unstated.

[Guest American Woman]

I don't know if Palin wrote her book with help.

She did.

MSNBC's Chris Matthews noted back in May, “She’s got this book deal, she obviously is not gonna write it."

Matthews was right. Palin had help.

The "help" came from Lynn Vincent, who had proven commercial success...

I suspect Obama wrote his books with help - but then, I'm not sure.

He didn't.

...unofficially, we'd estimate that 90 percent of the books published by politicians are heavily ghost-written. (A notable exception: Barack Obama, whose "Dreams from My Father" was considered by many critics to have real literary merit.)

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[Shady]

...unofficially, we'd estimate that 90 percent of the books published by politicians are heavily ghost-written. (A notable exception: Barack Obama, whose "Dreams from My Father" was considered by many critics to have real literary merit.)

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Exactly.