Mr.Canada Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 Harper had a great year in 2009 and 2010 will be even better. last year the socialists here were saying Harper would be done by summer...lol. And again they're making predictions of Harpers downfall. Please stop it my guts are busting from all this laughter. Ignatieff will Harper in an election? Bob Rae will? LOL....Layton? LOL seriously you have to stop it I'm dying here. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
wulf42 Posted January 7, 2010 Author Report Posted January 7, 2010 (edited) It removes the problem from society, but it doesn't solve the problem. The problem comes from the Gang culture that exists with these youngs punks, partly to blame is that crap they call rap that glorifies gun violence....if i had my way anyone 16 years and older that is involved in violence with a weapon causing serious injury or death would be put away for a minimum 15 years no parole no exceptions......and then go up from there depending on the severity of the crime. Society wants the problem removed from them they don t really care about much else! Everybody has a choice in life make the wrong one and your gone simple as that! Edited January 7, 2010 by wulf42 Quote
wulf42 Posted January 7, 2010 Author Report Posted January 7, 2010 Harper had a great year in 2009 and 2010 will be even better. Totally agree Quote
wulf42 Posted January 7, 2010 Author Report Posted January 7, 2010 good read Welcome to the forum. Quote
DrGreenthumb Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 good read Don't let these Conservative wing-nuts corrupt you. They won't be happy till you are all goose stepping your way to school,while thumping your bibles to the tune of stars and stripes forever. Not till you are on your way to science class where they will explain how the world is only 6000 years old, and all the species we have on earth are here today cuz Noah floated them around on a giant boat while the Lord flooded the earth to punish the sinners. Oh and forget about the book of Genesis where God gives man "all the seed bearing plants and herbs to use, if you get caught with any cannabis plants or seeds they have some mandaTORY prison sentences for THAT. Quote
Alta4ever Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 Don't let these Conservative wing-nuts corrupt you. They won't be happy till you are all goose stepping your way to school,while thumping your bibles to the tune of stars and stripes forever. Not till you are on your way to science class where they will explain how the world is only 6000 years old, and all the species we have on earth are here today cuz Noah floated them around on a giant boat while the Lord flooded the earth to punish the sinners. Oh and forget about the book of Genesis where God gives man "all the seed bearing plants and herbs to use, if you get caught with any cannabis plants or seeds they have some mandaTORY prison sentences for THAT. I don't know what conservative movement your posting about, but certainly isn't the one that i have been following. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
nicky10013 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 I don't know what conservative movement your posting about, but certainly isn't the one that i have been following. Yeah well other parties haven't suspended parliament. I thought the goose-stepping comment was particularly apt. Quote
Alta4ever Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 Yeah well other parties haven't suspended parliament. I thought the goose-stepping comment was particularly apt. Really is that so, Chretien did, so did trudeau,as with every other PM in history, it been prorogued 105 times. So want to try again. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
William Ashley Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 (edited) Canada belongs to Nato meaning we could be deployed anywhere in the world, yes including the desert like we are now right? Afghanistan is mountainous /desert terrain you must have see news clips on tv?? Ok, what does deployment have to do with camaflouge? Hell the US and Aussies wore street clothes in Afghanistan for their illegal operations. Why not just let them buy their own clothes. Hell its not like they follow the rules of war anyway. Its not like they are invisible driving that vehicle into the IED in uniform. Harder for cleanup when their splatered body parts can't be found in the desert? Look at death rates since they got their new desert uniforms, now they likely look like the rest of NATO and are more likely to be killed. Geuss what THEY WENT UP SINCE THE NEW UNIFORMS. Edited January 7, 2010 by William Ashley Quote I was here.
nicky10013 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 Really is that so, Chretien did, so did trudeau,as with every other PM in history, it been prorogued 105 times. So want to try again. Are we going to get into this again? Prorogual is normal. Not this time. Not to get away from questions. It's great to be able to prorogue for a couple days and come back with a new agenda for the upcoming session of parliament, which is what happened. Not to get away from answering questions. This is either intentional or you really know nothing about parliamentary democracy. Something tells me it's the former. Quote
Guest TrueMetis Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 Ok, what does deployment have to do with camaflouge? Hell the US and Aussies wore street clothes in Afghanistan for their illegal operations. Why not just let them buy their own clothes. Hell its not like they follow the rules of war anyway. It is harder to be shot if you can't be seen. Its not like they are invisible driving that vehicle into the IED in uniform. No shit camofluage is ment for foot patrols. Which there are a lot of. Harder for cleanup when their splatered body parts can't be found in the desert? What the hell is wrong with you? Look at death rates since they got their new desert uniforms, now they likely look like the rest of NATO and are more likely to be killed. Geuss what THEY WENT UP SINCE THE NEW UNIFORMS. Correlation does not imple causation. Quote
William Ashley Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 It is harder to be shot if you can't be seen. Uniform does not = invisibility. When was the last time you saw some white boy with face paint in Afghan? Oddly probably only on combat operations BUT when last I saw a firefight no face camo, yet that is what they need to look out of to shoot (usually) A uniform does not make a warrior it dresses one. Although yes you want every advantage - not knowing where you are going to deploy or stockpiling uniforms you may never use is not spendthrift, especially when the US itself only implemented new uniforms and equipment while in the conflict. It is hard to plan for a fight you don't know about. No shit camofluage is ment for foot patrols. Which there are a lot of. Why? To converse with the public? Hard to be seen if you are invisible. Why are they doing foot patrols to remind the public that their vengence and vunerability is only steps away. Give them a chance to fight back on a personal level? What exactly are they trying to do? Engineer their society or protect it? What the hell is wrong with you? Harper. Correlation does not imple causation. Huh? What? Where does your logic come from? Quote I was here.
Keepitsimple Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 Are we going to get into this again? Prorogual is normal. Not this time. Not to get away from questions. It's great to be able to prorogue for a couple days and come back with a new agenda for the upcoming session of parliament, which is what happened. Not to get away from answering questions. This is either intentional or you really know nothing about parliamentary democracy. Something tells me it's the former. For heavens sake, stop whining. Chetien prorogued to shut down discussion of a REAL scandal - Adscam. The detainee "issue" might make for good "gotcha" politics but its 3 years old and the one instance of "abuse" that was raised involved someone who was beaten with a shoe - and Canadian soldiers removed him from Afghan custody. Big deal. Canadians have decidedly said that it's not an issue that they are overly concerned about. Quote Back to Basics
Alta4ever Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 (edited) Are we going to get into this again? Prorogual is normal. Not this time. Not to get away from questions. It's great to be able to prorogue for a couple days and come back with a new agenda for the upcoming session of parliament, which is what happened. Not to get away from answering questions. This is either intentional or you really know nothing about parliamentary democracy. Something tells me it's the former. Here is an instance of Trudeau using a prorogation of parliament to silence a member Feb 23, 1972 - Parliament had been dismissed the day. of Mr Lundrigan's speech, in preparation for a new session. said the opposition had been effectively muzzled on this occasion, normally a chance for .the opposition to he' heard, by the prime minister's decision to prorogue after 50 seconds of ... From Ruddle-duddle" Provoker Predicts Liberal Downfall . - http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=P9o8AAAAIBAJ&sjid=VSsMAAAAIBAJ&pg=1336,6363660&dq=history+of+prorogued+parliaments&hl=en Edited January 7, 2010 by Alta4ever Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
nicky10013 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 For heavens sake, stop whining. Chetien prorogued to shut down discussion of a REAL scandal - Adscam. The detainee "issue" might make for good "gotcha" politics but its 3 years old and the one instance of "abuse" that was raised involved someone who was beaten with a shoe - and Canadian soldiers removed him from Afghan custody. Big deal. Canadians have decidedly said that it's not an issue that they are overly concerned about. Chretien prorogued to hand over power to Martin. No one knew about adscam until Feb. 2004 when Sheila Fraser dropped her bombshell report. Go back through the news articles of the time when he did prorogue and see if adscam is mentioned once. You're not going to like what you see. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 Whats wrong with people having money and why does the amount they have matter to you? In order to have a huge pile of money someone somewhere else has to have a pile that is in a constant state of depletion. People who have to much is not the problem..It's those that control the flow of all the cash causes problems for the world. Usually these people think they know what is best for the population and sometimes they are wrong about the way they percieve humanity..how are you going to change this type of person into getting the current flowing again? It's impossible because the control of money is power and their very personal identiy is tied up in that power. They fear if they are fair that they will become a nobody, a person with no identity. It's fear and pride that stiffles economies..they have no faith in themselves let alone faith in the populace. Quote
Guest TrueMetis Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 Uniform does not = invisibility. When was the last time you saw some white boy with face paint in Afghan? Oddly probably only on combat operations BUT when last I saw a firefight no face camo, yet that is what they need to look out of to shoot (usually) A uniform does not make a warrior it dresses one. Although yes you want every advantage - not knowing where you are going to deploy or stockpiling uniforms you may never use is not spendthrift, especially when the US itself only implemented new uniforms and equipment while in the conflict. It is hard to plan for a fight you don't know about. No but it gets you pretty damn close. My link Why? To converse with the public? Hard to be seen if you are invisible. Why are they doing foot patrols to remind the public that their vengence and vunerability is only steps away. Give them a chance to fight back on a personal level? What exactly are they trying to do? Engineer their society or protect it? Really? Besides that a foot patrol lets you get into places you can't with a vehicle you are much less exposed. There is also that some patrol areas are small enough that a vehicle would be pointless. Huh? What? Where does your logic come from? A basic understanding of how things work. Quote
nicky10013 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 Here is an instance of Trudeau using a prorogation of parliament to silence a member Feb 23, 1972 - Parliament had been dismissed the day. of Mr Lundrigan's speech, in preparation for a new session. said the opposition had been effectively muzzled on this occasion, normally a chance for .the opposition to he' heard, by the prime minister's decision to prorogue after 50 seconds of ... From Ruddle-duddle" Provoker Predicts Liberal Downfall . - http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=P9o8AAAAIBAJ&sjid=VSsMAAAAIBAJ&pg=1336,6363660&dq=history+of+prorogued+parliaments&hl=en I looked through the entire article you posted and I didn't see anything about proroguement. I saw something about dair farmers and pee wee hockey and how Trudeau rose in the house that day to thank a cabinet member who was resigning for his services. The quality is bad, could you point out what page it's on? Quote
Alta4ever Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 (edited) I looked through the entire article you posted and I didn't see anything about proroguement. I saw something about dair farmers and pee wee hockey and how Trudeau rose in the house that day to thank a cabinet member who was resigning for his services. The quality is bad, could you point out what page it's on? Bottom left hand corner on page a3 Edited January 7, 2010 by Alta4ever Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Oleg Bach Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 Bottom left hand corner on page a3 Love watching you guys...great to see a couple of young people imporving themselves and actually assisting each other...good work...wish I had a friend. Well maybe not...might have to be civil all the time and kind..as you can tell I am running out of important things to say - so I better recharge. Cheers! Quote
nicky10013 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 Bottom left hand corner on page a3 The pages aren't marked anything nevermind a1-a3. Furthermore, the article in the bottom left of A3 indicates lovely prizes handed out at a euchre tournament. The extreme bottom left is for carpet cleaning. In case you're wondering, yes I do want to make my carpets look like new Quote
Alta4ever Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 The pages aren't marked anything nevermind a1-a3. Furthermore, the article in the bottom left of A3 indicates lovely prizes handed out at a euchre tournament. The extreme bottom left is for carpet cleaning. In case you're wondering, yes I do want to make my carpets look like new http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=P9o8AAAAIBAJ&sjid=VSsMAAAAIBAJ&pg=1336%2C6363660 its their google doesn't have pages in the proper order. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
nicky10013 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 (edited) http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=P9o8AAAAIBAJ&sjid=VSsMAAAAIBAJ&pg=1336%2C6363660 its their google doesn't have pages in the proper order. Ok, I read it and I smell a rat. It says Trudeau prorogued in the first 50 seconds, not the first 50 seconds of this poor man's speech. So, my question to you is this: what bills did he kill? How long was the house prorogued for? Trudeau had a majority and therefore confidence of the house. Could it be that his legislative agenda was simply exhausted and wanted a new session of parliament? The answer is yes. It's not like Trudeau of all people was afraid of some back bencher's speech. Let's be realistic here. Edited January 7, 2010 by nicky10013 Quote
Alta4ever Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 Ok, I read it and I smell a rat. It says Trudeau prorogued in the first 50 seconds, not the first 50 seconds of this poor man's speech. So, my question to you is this: what bills did he kill? How long was the house prorogued for? Trudeau had a majority and therefore confidence of the house. Could it be that his legislative agenda was simply exhausted and wanted a new session of parliament? The answer is yes. It's not like Trudeau of all people was afraid of some back bencher's speech. Let's be realistic here. Why would he prorogue in the middle of a session, 50 seconds into the day just before the oppositions first day of the session? Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
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