ironstone Posted December 29, 2009 Report Posted December 29, 2009 She hits the nail on the head with this column. Is there anyone who can give one reason why the stance of Quebec on the tar sands project is not 100% pure hypocrisy? http://www2.canada.com/calgaryherald/columnists/story.html?id=fa618fd4-2cf3-4b64-acce-580827cd5c23 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Argus Posted December 29, 2009 Report Posted December 29, 2009 Yes, but in the bizzaroland world of Quebec media and culture you'd be hard pressed to find any recognition that Quebec gets ANYTHING from the rest of Canada. In fact, as far as I'm aware, Quebec's governmental, economic, media, cultural and business interests are unanimous in their stated belief that Quebec actually contributes more than it gets back, and has for decades. It's the kind of sulky resentful ingratitude which makes us all love Quebec so very much. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Jerry J. Fortin Posted December 29, 2009 Report Posted December 29, 2009 She hits the nail on the head with this column. Is there anyone who can give one reason why the stance of Quebec on the tar sands project is not 100% pure hypocrisy? http://www2.canada.com/calgaryherald/columnists/story.html?id=fa618fd4-2cf3-4b64-acce-580827cd5c23 I am an Albertan, but even I understand what they are doing. Its all about leverage, and in the context of "green" they have it in spades. Frankly I don't give a damn what the ROC thinks of oil sands development, because it is a natural resource and comes under Alberta jurisdiction. Let them rave. Quote
wyly Posted December 29, 2009 Report Posted December 29, 2009 She hits the nail on the head with this column. Is there anyone who can give one reason why the stance of Quebec on the tar sands project is not 100% pure hypocrisy? http://www2.canada.com/calgaryherald/columnists/story.html?id=fa618fd4-2cf3-4b64-acce-580827cd5c23 if anyone other than Corbella had written a column I'd might be tempted to read it...the woman is dumber than a bag of hammers... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
waldo Posted December 29, 2009 Report Posted December 29, 2009 if anyone other than Corbella had written a column I'd might be tempted to read it...the woman is dumber than a bag of hammers... ya, she's a peach; given her SUN tabloid roots, we should expect nothing else... and... certainly... Conrad Black would be so proud. I must have missed that isolated Quebec only position - here I thought it was a somewhat joint Ontario/Quebec position... but, then again, that wouldn't fit Corbella's history of Quebec bashing. Nor would it allow the expected Argus types to chime in. Quote
ironstone Posted December 29, 2009 Author Report Posted December 29, 2009 if anyone other than Corbella had written a column I'd might be tempted to read it...the woman is dumber than a bag of hammers... Can you give me an example of something she's written that indicates she's "dumber than a bag of hammers" as you put it? As for myself,there are some columnists that I generally disagree with on most topics,like ultra-left leaning Susan Riley of the Ottawa Citizen,but I often read her column anyway.It's important to keep an open mind and listen to different viewpoints I think. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
ironstone Posted December 29, 2009 Author Report Posted December 29, 2009 ya, she's a peach; given her SUN tabloid roots, we should expect nothing else... and... certainly... Conrad Black would be so proud. I must have missed that isolated Quebec only position - here I thought it was a somewhat joint Ontario/Quebec position... but, then again, that wouldn't fit Corbella's history of Quebec bashing. Nor would it allow the expected Argus types to chime in. Would that be the same Ontario with the dirty coal fired generating plants?Can you deny the fact that an enormous amount of money flows out of Alberta and ends up in the province(yeah I said PROVINCE!)of Quebec?One must not confuse Quebec bashing with cold,hard facts. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
wyly Posted December 29, 2009 Report Posted December 29, 2009 Can you give me an example of something she's written that indicates she's "dumber than a bag of hammers" as you put it? As for myself,there are some columnists that I generally disagree with on most topics,like ultra-left leaning Susan Riley of the Ottawa Citizen,but I often read her column anyway.It's important to keep an open mind and listen to different viewpoints I think. I'll read a column by someone who I may not agree with but it needs to be factually correct, Corbella doesn't research her opinions they're just political rants...I don't agree with Andrew Coyne or Don Martin but I respect their opinions...do I have examples of Corbella's opinions? I stopped reading her garbage years ago why would I even bookmark it? I emailed her back then and pointed out her numerous factual errors and biases which could have been easily confirmed by a 10 yr old doing a web search....corbella is journalism at it's worst Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
wyly Posted December 29, 2009 Report Posted December 29, 2009 Would that be the same Ontario with the dirty coal fired generating plants?Can you deny the fact that an enormous amount of money flows out of Alberta and ends up in the province(yeah I said PROVINCE!)of Quebec?One must not confuse Quebec bashing with cold,hard facts. that could be just find a real journalist's report and I'll read it... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Alta4ever Posted December 29, 2009 Report Posted December 29, 2009 I'll read a column by someone who I may not agree with but it needs to be factually correct, Bull, you are so full of it. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
wyly Posted December 29, 2009 Report Posted December 29, 2009 Bull, you are so full of it. your ability to add insightful thoughtful comments is remarkable a Licia Corbella fan by chance? Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
ironstone Posted December 30, 2009 Author Report Posted December 30, 2009 I'll read a column by someone who I may not agree with but it needs to be factually correct, Corbella doesn't research her opinions they're just political rants...I don't agree with Andrew Coyne or Don Martin but I respect their opinions... do I have examples of Corbella's opinions? I stopped reading her garbage years ago why would I even bookmark it? I emailed her back then and pointed out her numerous factual errors and biases which could have been easily confirmed by a 10 yr old doing a web search....corbella is journalism at it's worst I'll take that as a no,that you can't provide any evidence of her alleged factual errors. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
wyly Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 I'll take that as a no,that you can't provide any evidence of her alleged factual errors. what have I set the standard too high? (not hard with corbella)...find a piece by someone with a brain and journalistic standard higher than that found in a tabloid and I'll read it...I cancelled my daily delivery of the Herald 2 yrs ago corbella was one of the reasons for that, the Herald is no more than a tabloid with amateur journalists the exception being Don Martin but he wasn't enough to justify it's .50 cost per day... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Alta4ever Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 your ability to add insightful thoughtful comments is remarkable a Licia Corbella fan by chance? Never knowingly read an opinion piece by her before, but, I will at least read articals i may not agree with you dismiss them out of hand. When it comes to blow hards like you I have little time nor care give you the time of an "insightful" comment as it would be wasted. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Argus Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 if anyone other than Corbella had written a column I'd might be tempted to read it...the woman is dumber than a bag of hammers... The sense of an opinion stands on its own without regard to the person who utters it. It's sad you don't seem to understand that. Sad, but hardly surprising. Why, I bet even you sometimes have an opinion which makes some degree of sense. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
August1991 Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) From link above: Quebec hasn't made a net contribution to the rest of Canada for a very long time. This is not to be critical (after all, fairy godmothers never criticize) it's just a fact. This is the simplistic version of Canadian history, far too common in English Canada. For a very long time? Is that a qualification? ---- Most Canadians are not rich through acumen. We are rich because of accidents of geology. About 15,000 years ago, most of Canada was under several kilometers of ice. The glaciers gone, Albertans now have easily accessible oil, the NWT have diamonds, Ontarians have gold and Quebecers have rivers. Canadians are rich because of glaciers. It happens that Quebec (like Manitoba) has rivers. Quebec can produce alot of energy without producing CO2. Glaciers? Who said that life was fair? Edited December 31, 2009 by August1991 Quote
wyly Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 Never knowingly read an opinion piece by her before, but, I will at least read articals i may not agree with you dismiss them out of hand. When it comes to blow hards like you I have little time nor care give you the time of an "insightful" comment as it would be wasted. I never read Mein Kampf and don't need to know it's crap...although I'm sure you have several times...an insightful comment from the peanut gallery?...I haven't seen one yet from you happen since I joined the forum, I'll grow old and die before that ever happens... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
wyly Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 The sense of an opinion stands on its own without regard to the person who utters it. It's sad you don't seem to understand that. Sad, but hardly surprising. Why, I bet even you sometimes have an opinion which makes some degree of sense. you are consistent...when given the chance to contribute you have nothing to offer but personal attacks...which means I won yet again... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Alta4ever Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 an insightful comment from the peanut gallery?...I haven't seen one yet from you happen since I joined the forum, I'll grow old and die before that ever happens... I doubt you will ever post such a comment. Your are an ignorant fool who seems content not to expand their horizons, by actually reading differing opinions that may be contrary to your own. Have fun in your blissful life of ignorance. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Jerry J. Fortin Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 I doubt you will ever post such a comment. Your are an ignorant fool who seems content not to expand their horizons, by actually reading differing opinions that may be contrary to your own. Have fun in your blissful life of ignorance. Most citizens could benefit from a little insightful education and a relaxation of personal morals and standards when confronted with issues of judgment. It would be wise to consider the needs of society instead of the desires of the person. Quote
Alta4ever Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 Most citizens could benefit from a little insightful education and a relaxation of personal morals and standards when confronted with issues of judgment. It would be wise to consider the needs of society instead of the desires of the person. The needs and desires of people are what drives societies, not the other way around. It is human nature. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
blueblood Posted January 4, 2010 Report Posted January 4, 2010 you are consistent...when given the chance to contribute you have nothing to offer but personal attacks...which means I won yet again... Ho hum My link won my cowboy ass Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Bryan Posted January 4, 2010 Report Posted January 4, 2010 ...Quebec's governmental, economic, media, cultural and business interests are unanimous in their stated belief that Quebec actually contributes more than it gets back, and has for decades. Frighteningly, I know people who live in Quebec who honestly believe this. When presented with evidence to the contrary, they simply accuse you of lying. Quote
Jerry J. Fortin Posted January 4, 2010 Report Posted January 4, 2010 Frighteningly, I know people who live in Quebec who honestly believe this. When presented with evidence to the contrary, they simply accuse you of lying. The provinces need to stand on their own, each and every one of them. If you are serious about debt and deficit at the federal level that is the way to go. Yes you would drive that debt and deficit down to the provinces, who would drive it down to the cities, but what choice is there? We need to figure out how to handle our own affairs, and to do that properly we need responsibility and accountability. Quote
Older&Wiser Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 if anyone other than Corbella had written a column I'd might be tempted to read it...the woman is dumber than a bag of hammers... If "wyly" were literate, the post would still be highly ignorant. I cannot condone that type of slur on one of the most brilliant, articulate, honest, and insightful journalists in Canada. I suspect the real reason "wyly" doesn't read the excellent article by Licia is because he/she/it can't. Quote
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