Muddy Posted August 31, 2009 Report Posted August 31, 2009 Thought you might like to read this letter to the editor ~ ever notice how some people just seem to know how to write a letter?.This one sure does! This was written by a Canadian woman, but oh how it also applies to theU.S., U.K. and Australia THIS ONE PACKS A FIRM PUNCH?Here is a woman who should run for Prime Minister!?Written by a housewife in New Brunswick , to her local newspaper. This is one ticked off lady.?'Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001 and have continually threatened to do so since??Were people from all over the world, not brutally murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan , across the Potomac from the nation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania ??Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they??And I'm supposed to care that a few Taliban were claiming to be tortured by a justice system of the nation they come from and are fighting against in a brutal insurgency.?I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11.?I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere belief of which is a crime punishable by beheading in Afghanistan ?I'll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry for hacking off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat.?I'll care when the cowardly so-called 'insurgents' in Afghanistan come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques and behind women and children.?I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search ofnirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide bombs.?I'll care when the Canadian media stops pretending that their freedom of speech on stories is more important than the lives of the soldiers on the ground or their families waiting at home to hear about them when something happens.?In the meantime, when I hear a story about a CANADIAN soldier roughing up an Insurgent terrorist to obtain information, know this:?I don't care.?When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the bank:?I don't care.?When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and 'fed special food' that is paid for by my tax dollars, is complaining that his holy book is being 'mishandled,' you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts:?I don't care.?And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled 'Koran' and other times 'Quran.' Well, Jimmy Crack Corn you guessed it, ?I don't care!!?If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all your E-mail friends.? Sooner or later, it'll get to the people responsible for this ridiculous behavior!?If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete button. Should you choose the latter, then please don't complain when more atrocities committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great Country!? And may I add:?'Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Soldiers don't have that problem.'?I have another quote that I would like to add, AND.......I hope you forward all this.?One last thought for the day:?Only five defining forces have ever offered to die for you:?1. Jesus Christ?2. The BritishSoldier.?3. The Canadian Soldier.?4. The US Soldier, and?5. The Commenwealth Soldier?One died for your soul, the other 4 for your freedom.??YOU MIGHT WANT TO PASS THIS ON, AS MANY SEEM TO FORGET ALL OF THEM.?AMEN! Quote
Tawasakm Posted August 31, 2009 Report Posted August 31, 2009 There may be some relevant points but chain mail is chain mail. Quote
eyeball Posted August 31, 2009 Report Posted August 31, 2009 Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001...? Islamic people definitely did not start this. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Army Guy Posted August 31, 2009 Report Posted August 31, 2009 Islamic people definitely did not start this. I don't think you get the gist of the post "who cares"...... what radical muslims did do is bring it into our living rooms ....and awoke the bull, and now they are going to get both horns.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted August 31, 2009 Report Posted August 31, 2009 I don't think you get the gist of the post "who cares".....what radical muslims did do is bring it into our living rooms.... I'd say I've been getting that gist for at least 8 years now. At least you've akcnowledged that muslims did not start this fight. At least some part of you cared enough to get that fact straight. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
DogOnPorch Posted August 31, 2009 Report Posted August 31, 2009 I'd say I've been getting that gist for at least 8 years now. At least you've akcnowledged that muslims did not start this fight. At least some part of you cared enough to get that fact straight. Saddam started this when he invaded Kuwait. I'm not sure if you'd call Saddam a Muslim...perhaps, eh? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted August 31, 2009 Report Posted August 31, 2009 Saddam started this when he invaded Kuwait. I'm not sure if you'd call Saddam a Muslim...perhaps, eh? No, I don't think that's quite right, it seems fairly clear the US and the British started this when they overthrew Mossadegh, but what do you care? As for Saddam I was calling him a monster back when the US was still calling him a friend, but again, what do you care? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 31, 2009 Report Posted August 31, 2009 No, I don't think that's quite right, it seems fairly clear the US and the British started this when they overthrew Mossadegh, but what do you care? Nah...I think it started with the Romans....yea...that's it. As for Saddam I was calling him a monster back when the US was still calling him a friend, but again, what do you care? ...but not Canada, right? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted August 31, 2009 Report Posted August 31, 2009 No, I don't think that's quite right, it seems fairly clear the US and the British started this when they overthrew Mossadegh, but what do you care?As for Saddam I was calling him a monster back when the US was still calling him a friend, but again, what do you care? I wasn't aware we had troops fighting in Iran. You learn something new everyday. Re: Mossadegh. A Communist sympathizer who nationalizes one's oil wells in the McCarthy Era gets what he deserves. Plus I'm sure you're aware that the Shah was put in by the Soviets and British during WW2...not the Americans in the 50s. He just took over from Mossadegh as per the Iranian monarchy of many thousands of years. The Shah was put on the throne in 1941 due to his daddy courting the Nazis...going so far as to rename Persia to Iran (Aryan). But why am I telling you this?...You're an expert on this! Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted August 31, 2009 Report Posted August 31, 2009 Nah...I think it started with the Romans....yea...that's it. Pffffttt....it t'was the Ancient Egyptians...everybody knows THAT. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted August 31, 2009 Report Posted August 31, 2009 ...but not Canada, right? No, Canada's been with you pretty much every step of the way. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted August 31, 2009 Report Posted August 31, 2009 You learn something new everyday. Not necessarily in your case. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Army Guy Posted August 31, 2009 Report Posted August 31, 2009 I'd say I've been getting that gist for at least 8 years now. At least you've akcnowledged that muslims did not start this fight. At least some part of you cared enough to get that fact straight. I think thats the problem nobody cares who started what, it's been generations now....and both sides have no idea why we dislike each other....just that we do.....does it really matter to know who started it....we both wake up scratch our balls, spit on the floor, and wipe our ass with our favorite middle eastern dictactor toilet paper.....look out the window and snarl "wonder what those damn middle easterners are up to today".... But for years it had been contained to one side shooting down a jet, the other side blowing up this or that....ya we disliked each other .....but 911 and OB brought all that into our front rooms....they attacked on our soil....WTF was he thinking ""bring the war to America he said"""....i guess he was counting on the US not doing anything.....Surprise, surprise ,surprise.....my five year old could of told him that was a bad move.....and then they act like they were surprised at the amount of NATO forces pouring in to Afghan....OBL gave them the keys to the door all the US did was kick it down....and now some of us are wondering maybe we started this whole thing....""""WHO CARES""" Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
DogOnPorch Posted August 31, 2009 Report Posted August 31, 2009 Not necessarily in your case. Ooooooooooooooooooooo....such razor wit...I'm cut to thee bone. A touche! Dastardly villaine...fore soothe! (Chorttle) Meanwhile, please explain in point form (if you're capable) how this event in 1953 caused 9-11 in 2001 and so forth. I look forward to your detailed response. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted August 31, 2009 Report Posted August 31, 2009 ....now some of us are wondering maybe we started this whole thing....""""WHO CARES""" DOP seems to. You don't seem to have any disagreement with the fact this is a war involving two sides. Do you care enough to explain to him how to connect the dots? I doubt he has much time for anything I might have to say. In any case here's a link or two to chew on, assuming anyone around here cares. All The Shah’s Men: An American Coup and the Roots of Middle East Terror. Had Iran’s secular democracy been allowed to develop, mature, and solidify under Mossadegh, it is likely that the Islamic fundamentalism now threatening the entire region would not be a serious issue. Obama admits US involvement in 1953 Iran coup Arab American Institute President James Zogby said that although Obama's admission of US involvement in the coup added little to historical knowledge as it was already well known, it remained an important gesture to Iran."There is no surprise," Zogby said when asked about the fact of CIA involvement, But he added that Obama's admission of it was a "very important statement, it's the beginning of closing the chapter." Of course there will be other chapters that need closing too, but its a start. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Muddy Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Posted September 1, 2009 Who cares! I care that our troops keep us safe! We have not had an attack on North America since 9/11 since we picked up the gauntlet!. If it is us or them I choose us. Quote
charter.rights Posted September 1, 2009 Report Posted September 1, 2009 ....our troops keep us safe! Boy are you ever delusional..... Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
Argus Posted September 1, 2009 Report Posted September 1, 2009 If I was going to set blame for the rising religious fanaticism and fundamentalism in the Islamic world I would point the finger at Saudi Arabia. It has spent the last two decades spreading it's fanatic wahabi sect throughout the Muslim world, spending billions upon billions of petro dollars to fund fanatic religious schools and mosques throughout the world, including in Canada, btw. I am among those who felt that instead of invading Afghanistan the US should have bombed the living hell out of Saudi Arabia. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Muddy Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Posted September 1, 2009 Boy are you ever delusional..... Well as the sign says ,if you don`t want to stand behind our soldiers ,your welcome to stand in front of them. I would also suggest a visit to Sunnybrook Hospital and express your sentiments to those old Vets spending their last days on earth. You know the guys who made sure you don`t have to speak German today.. Quote
eyeball Posted September 1, 2009 Report Posted September 1, 2009 I am among those who felt that instead of invading Afghanistan the US should have bombed the living hell out of Saudi Arabia. No, they should have simply got out of SA. As for bombing the living hell out people, that's only your famous penchant for vindictive justice talking. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Posted September 1, 2009 No, they should have simply got out of SA. They did. As for bombing the living hell out people, that's only your famous penchant for vindictive justice talking. It also worked quite well during WW2. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Posted September 1, 2009 ..... I am among those who felt that instead of invading Afghanistan the US should have bombed the living hell out of Saudi Arabia. ...gee, I thought Canada should have done this too....oh well. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Army Guy Posted September 1, 2009 Report Posted September 1, 2009 DOP seems to. You don't seem to have any disagreement with the fact this is a war involving two sides. Do you care enough to explain to him how to connect the dots? I doubt he has much time for anything I might have to say.In any case here's a link or two to chew on, assuming anyone around here cares. All The Shah’s Men: An American Coup and the Roots of Middle East Terror. For all the intervention that went on during the cold war i just curious to know why is it that the US is to blame for all the problems within the middle east ....i mean there was 2 sides was there not, Mother Russia had her paws over alot of middle eastern countries as well and yet you never see anyone burning any Russian flags or suicide bombing any Russian interests....or is it that we only pick on the guy on top, with all the cash....History has always had 2 sides of the story.....and thru out that period it had the red white and blue on one side and the Red Russian bear on the other.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Muddy Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Posted September 1, 2009 The Cold War was a different kettle of fish. NATO was a lot stronger in those days. The objective was clear. Our Brigade in Germany was well respected and we were an active member of NORAD. The vast majority of citizens were loyal and knew what side they were on. Then along came Pearson and followed by Trudeau. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted September 1, 2009 Report Posted September 1, 2009 For all the intervention that went on during the cold war i just curious to know why is it that the US is to blame for all the problems within the middle east ....i mean there was 2 sides was there not, Mother Russia had her paws over alot of middle eastern countries as well and yet you never see anyone burning any Russian flags or suicide bombing any Russian interests....or is it that we only pick on the guy on top, with all the cash....History has always had 2 sides of the story.....and thru out that period it had the red white and blue on one side and the Red Russian bear on the other.... Libtards like to forget history. They particularly like to forget things like the Arabs bring defacto Warsaw Pact members 'back in the day'...or that the Palestinian Cause was the pipe dream of an SS Obergruppenfuhrer Holocaust criminal who never saw justice. Leaves a bad taste in the mouth that doesn't go well with that mocha latte. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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