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[jbg]

This post has so many inaccuracies and incoherent statements. I will try to refute a few.

With this response I know you to be ignorant and know eff all about anything. The US exists because of the King Louis IV of France. The United States with Frances support fought four years against Canada? Why?

France got involved after some key U.S. victories, including thwarting the British attempt to divide the colonies from Lake Champlain down the Hudson Valley. It was more like joining the winning side.

For the fun of it? This support by King Louis IV bankrupted France, which King Louis XV tried to pass on the costs of this war onto the people. This led to revolt and the Rise of Napoleon.

France was involved in centuries of wars before the 1776 skirmish in the Americas. Their loss in the Seven Years War from 1756-63 was far more important. In fact the British victory was so expensive to Britain that their attempt to tax the American colonists led to the U.S. declaring and then fighting for independence.

Napoleon Bitch slapped Europe and crushed the Monarchies of Europe. Napoleon was ultimately done in by his own ego. He marched in on Russia with the largest army ever amassed and was defeated by the weather, not because Russia was able to defend itself but because of the weather. Napoleon dominated Europe for forty Years.

Not even close to forty years.

The fact is, the rise of the United States and the combination of Napoleon Broke the monarchies of Europe.

No, their own internecine slaughters of WW I and WW II broke Europe and allowed the U.S. to predominate.

The kennedy's in the sixties to declare themselves as king and Queens.

Huh?

What did the Romans do? The crucified Jesus and they burned downed the Jewish temple in Jeruselum in 70 AD. What do you make of that? The Romans obviously did not think much of the so called Jews or the Christians.

Until they became Roman Catholics.

If what you are saying about the kennedy's was actually the case, and they were trying to make themselves king and Queen of the United States it would be no mystery why he got shot.

When was their declaration of monarchy?

As for this thread, the aboriginals have no pyramids, they have no hierglyphs, everything they are is heresay.

Ever hear of the Mayans or the Aztecs?

[whowhere]

When was their declaration of monarchy?

I suggest you read the post I was replying to. As for argueing the logic of how the United States Came to be and the collapse of the Monarchies I will leave that to your dementia.

[whowhere]

Ever hear of the Mayans or the Aztecs?

What does Canada's aboriginals have to do with them?

[benny]

What does Canada's aboriginals have to do with them?

In a way, Canadian indigenous nations should shut up because sharing such a vast territory was easy.

[bush_cheney2004]

In a way, Canadian indigenous nations should shut up because sharing such a vast territory was easy.

Sure, as long as you don't mind residential schools, sterilizations, and having to file land claims.

Sharing is fun!

[benny]

Sure, as long as you don't mind residential schools, sterilizations, and having to file land claims.

Sharing is fun!

In yet another way, Canadian indigenous nations should shut up because when one is polytheist, sharing his beliefs about human sacrifices and human scalping is also very easy.

[bush_cheney2004]

In yet another way, Canadian indigenous nations should shut up because when one is polytheist, sharing his beliefs about human sacrifices and human scalping is also very easy.

Not in any way.

[Guest TrueMetis]

In yet another way, Canadian indigenous nations should shut up because when one is polytheist, sharing his beliefs about human sacrifices and human scalping is also very easy.

Ya cause native americans invented scalping and all native americans scalp. I'm not gonna bother with the human sacrifice thing.

[benny]

Ya cause native americans invented scalping and all native americans scalp. I'm not gonna bother with the human sacrifice thing.

Monotheism was and still is today a violent rupture with polytheism.

[Pliny]

And if HM tried to impose her will she'd be laughed at, not obeyed. That would hold true in the U.K. and in the Dominions.

Perhaps true if she stood on her balcony and demanded taxes. Monarchs learned at the time of Napoleon to save their necks and use government as their proxy. People don't love government but they can love their benign royalty and so government takes the salvoes.

I think the Queen has done a good job so far, most of us in the Commonwealth are doing ok.

[benny]

I think the Queen has done a good job so far, most of us in the Commonwealth are doing ok.

Only old-school communism is about common wealth really!

[g_bambino]

I shortened it a bit....

And with one sentence you project your full inadequacies.

Given your, er... "theories"... on the monarchy, its role in Canada, and how the situation came to be, you're hardly in a position to deride others for their kooky opinions.

[Bryan]

We've already paid far too much. Enough is enough. Everyone's family has a hard-luck "I was screwed" story somewhere in their past. Get over it.

[benny]

We've already paid far too much. Enough is enough. Everyone's family has a hard-luck "I was screwed" story somewhere in their past. Get over it.

It doesn't work like that!

[Moonbox]

Why shouldn't it?

[eyeball]

We've already paid far too much. Enough is enough. Everyone's family has a hard-luck "I was screwed" story somewhere in their past. Get over it.

I can get over what I was screwed out of but not the undemocratic manipulative method by which I was screwed. Personally, I'm amazed at just how restrained and patient native people have been.

[Oleg Bach]

I can get over what I was screwed out of but not the undemocratic manipulative method by which I was screwed. Personally, I'm amazed at just how restrained and patient native people have been.

Saw my wife get screwed out of an inheritence..a lot of cash - I will never forget what a lawyer said "It maybe immoral but it's legal".. I leaned one thing about being patient...don't bother even being envolved with what will never grant positive results. Natives that look toward the white man for salvation are foolish - the pale eyed white wolf will never look at them as anything but a victim. How can you trust a person or social structure..that looks at natural man as inferiour - and imagines that the white mans world of artifical nature and clever artifice is superiour.

White people that run this nation are buisness people - merchant class. In order to conduct buisness and be successful you must lie - cheat and steal in the most clever and clean way - the natives are not match for this wickedness.

[benny]

Why shouldn't it?

It is too easy an excuse.

[Oleg Bach]

It is too easy an excuse.

Stating "everything is bad all over" so get used to it..does not cut it..It's a statement that is not based in fact. It is an easy excuse - It's like someone paying you cheaply once you find employment - and he says 'Hey - you weren't doning anything anyway." People like to think that the poor deserve what they get - nothing! As if the poor made themselves that way by design and intent...when from what I understand is that poor is done to you...someone has to inflict the povert. The inflictor will always justify his abuse of the weak - but will never mention ever that it was him who caused the weakness.

[benny]

Stating "everything is bad all over" so get used to it..does not cut it..It's a statement that is not based in fact. It is an easy excuse - It's like someone paying you cheaply once you find employment - and he says 'Hey - you weren't doning anything anyway." People like to think that the poor deserve what they get - nothing! As if the poor made themselves that way by design and intent...when from what I understand is that poor is done to you...someone has to inflict the povert. The inflictor will always justify his abuse of the weak - but will never mention ever that it was him who caused the weakness.

The worst started to happen when the Protestants started abusing of the expression "things happen for a reason".

[Oleg Bach]

The worst started to happen when the Protestants started abusing of the expression "things happen for a reason".

That's like saying that the chaos created by man and the worst parts of life are to be excepted because it is "God's will" - no human being can possibly understand the will of the universe...it's arrogance and ignorance.

[benny]

That's like saying that the chaos created by man and the worst parts of life are to be excepted because it is "God's will" - no human being can possibly understand the will of the universe...it's arrogance and ignorance.

Somehow, Protestants have find in the Gospels that poverty is a divine sign of eternal damnation.

[Oleg Bach]

Somehow, Protestants have find in the Gospels that poverty is a divine sign of eternal damnation.

Yah that being poor is holy...well being poor on purpose is holy - but being made poor on purpose by someone else is not holy. I bet those Protestants..had no quams about sending off a plunderning army to detach their neighbours riches and attatch them to themselves.

[benny]

Yah that being poor is holy...well being poor on purpose is holy - but being made poor on purpose by someone else is not holy. I bet those Protestants..had no quams about sending off a plunderning army to detach their neighbours riches and attatch them to themselves.

Accusing these neighbours to be lazy was enough for Protestants to justify expropriations.

[Oleg Bach]

Accusing these neighbours to be lazy was enough for Protestants to justify expropriations.

It's irky to hear some guy who inherits 20 million bucks and takes over the running of an empire - call someone lazy. Look at our over debated Lord B - He attempted to exprobriate in an incrimmental fashion - the property of others - except they were not quite poor and weak enough, they had lawyers.