bush_cheney2004 Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Interesting. The document mentions the country as the "Republic" of Kenya. Kenya became independant on November 1963, but did not become a republic until the end of 1964. Maybe these guys need some help from Dan Rather when it comes to forging documents.....wait.....that didn't work out so well for the Lefties either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 (edited) according to masterful right-wing nutbar sleuthing: "Kenya became independent on Oct. 17, 1963 via an agreement between Prime Minister of Kenya Messrs Jomo Kenyatta, and the Prime Minister of Zanzibar M. Shamte nearly TWO months earlier than the rest of Kenya declared independence on Dec. 12, 1963. The Muslims in the ten-mile strip seemingly called themselves the "Republic of Kenya" in 1963, before the rest of the country was officially known by the same name on Dec. 12, 1964" warning: you may need a shower should you choose to follow this freeper link - apparently, there is a reputable timeline to follow... one between the Kenyan birth certificate and the divorce of Obama's parents. And I always thought that Zanzibar joined TANGANYKA to form TANZANIA. Obama's conspiracy knows no border. Now as for the piece of comedy you posted... The mother is being asked to produce a birth certificate for the child. The child was born half way around the globe, so she contacts the Kenyan ambassy, gets info as to the form to be used and the fees to be paid, send her request to Kenya. In Kenya, it finds its way through the bureaucracy and lo and behold., in 24 days. Wow, you can not even have that fast of a service in Ontario in 2009. As for the bit about the possible registration of foreign births in Hawaii. It exists, that's a fact... so is the fact that the birth registration then shows the PLACE OF BIRTH. State officials says that the registration gives Honolulu as the place of birth. If this was a registration of a birth in Mobasa, it would say... Mombasi. And there there's the claim that the original Kenya birth record may have ended up in the UK... yet a Kenyan official would have been able to produce a copy of it. Particularly interesting considering that usually, when countries become independant, vvital records stay there. And finally, the bit about the copy found in Kenya may be the only surviving copy... Routinely, when government agencies anywhere issue a birth certificate or certification of a birth record, they do not keep a copy of that certificate... They do not need to, they have the original registration already on file... Unless Kenya has unique and different procedures. Edited August 3, 2009 by CANADIEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 If this document is not credible enough, some Republicans will go after better counterfeiters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 I almost forgot. The lawyer, knowing that the mother could have her son's foreign birth could be registered with the Hawaii authorities, may have risked disbarment by counselling her to commit fraud (attempting to registered the birth as a delayed registration of a birth in Hawaii). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Very hard to have information on Joshua Simon Oduya through internet, the main websites on him seem infected by viruses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 They found it. It is a copy of a Australian birth certificate of the sametime but photoshoped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 They found it. It is a copy of a Australian birth certificate of the sametime but photoshoped. About a reference!? http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/200...pears-in-court/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Made a mistake yesterday. Mombasa belonged nominally to Zanzibar until it was ceded to Kenya in December 1962. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 If I had to choose who's posts to read. I will choose Bush_cheney. I may not like much of what he says, but at least he says something. Not sure what Benny is doing anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 If I had to choose who's posts to read. I will choose Bush_cheney. I may not like much of what he says, but at least he says something. Not sure what Benny is doing anymore. summer saults Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guthrie Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 don't let it die --- keep up this insane conspiracy theory -- just because some ol gnarly taetzed broad used a Crayola Brand Forgery Kit, it doesn't mean that Lou Dobbs and Joe Scarbroad are wrong!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 don't let it die --- keep up this insane conspiracy theory -- just because some ol gnarly taetzed broad used a Crayola Brand Forgery Kit, it doesn't mean that Lou Dobbs and Joe Scarbroad are wrong!!!! Media personalities can always be wrong because they can always read scripted apologies (if their "facts" get out of hand). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guthrie Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Media personalities can always be wrong because they can always read scripted apologies (if their "facts" get out of hand). gee, I thought they got fired for offering fraudulent documents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 gee, I thought they got fired for offering fraudulent documents as your remark appears targeted at Rather, you would be wrong - he retired/contract was not renewed. I now catch him regularly on HDNET... on occasion he still puts out some good reporting. besides, aren't you a tad premature given his lawsuit against CBS News is still working its way through the system/courts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guthrie Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 as your remark appears targeted at Rather, you would be wrong - he retired/contract was not renewed. I now catch him regularly on HDNET... on occasion he still puts out some good reporting.besides, aren't you a tad premature given his lawsuit against CBS News is still working its way through the system/courts? sure, it was HIS idea to retire -- go ahead, kid yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 sure, it was HIS idea to retire -- go ahead, kid yourself of course it wasn't Rather's idea to leave CBS - hence the lawsuit... but... he was not fired. He officially retired since his contract was not renewed. After the "incident" he stayed on at CBS for some time - just no longer reading the nightly news. That's not my definition of being fired. by the way... has any information/documentation ever come forward to substantiate the Shrub's National Guard service. You know, account for all those glaring discrepancies? Didn't think so..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 of course it wasn't Rather's idea to leave CBS - hence the lawsuit... but... he was not fired. He officially retired since his contract was not renewed. After the "incident" he stayed on at CBS for some time - just no longer reading the nightly news. That's not my definition of being fired. That sure is putting a positive spin on his fall from grace....I suppose Mary Mapes (producer) wasn't fired either? by the way... has any information/documentation ever come forward to substantiate the Shrub's National Guard service. You know, account for all those glaring discrepancies? Didn't think so..... Yes...we have confirmed that "Shrub" completed his service with not one, but two terms as President of the United States. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 gee, I thought they got fired for offering fraudulent documents Media profitability depends on personality cults. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 by the way... has any information/documentation ever come forward to substantiate the Shrub's National Guard service. You know, account for all those glaring discrepancies? Didn't think so.....Yes...we have confirmed that "Shrub" completed his service with not one, but two terms as President of the United States. ah yes, Bush - the gift that keeps giving. Quite a fervor the last couple of days over the renewed/increased publishing of the 2003 exchange between Bush and French President Chirac... where Bush asked for French troops to join American soldiers in attacking Iraq as a mission from God - where Iraq had be invaded to thwart Gog and Magog, the Bible’s satanic agents of the Apocalypse. Didn't get much play when the Toronto Star published the account in May but it's now getting picked up by several U.S. mainstream newspapers/magazines: Stranger still are new accounts emerging from France describing how former president Jacques Chirac was utterly baffled by a 2003 telephone conversation in which Bush reportedly invoked fanatical Old Testament prophecy – including the Earth-ending battle with forces of evil, Gog and Magog – in his arguments to enlist France in the Coalition of the Willing."This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people's enemies before a New Age begins," Bush said to Chirac, according to Thomas Romer, a University of Lausanne theology professor who was later approached by French officials anxious to understand the biblical reference. Romer first revealed his account in a 2007 article for the university review, Allez savoir, which passed largely unnoticed. nutbag... "leader of the free world" - yeesh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 W Bush and Obama share something that is related to this topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents_controversy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 nutbag... "leader of the free world" - yeesh! That's right.....PMs Chirac and Martin came begging later for a piece of the Iraq oil services contracts. "Please Mr. Nutbag, now that the invasion is over, may we partake in the spoils...pretty please?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 That's right.....PMs Chirac and Martin came begging later for a piece of the Iraq oil services contracts. "Please Mr. Nutbag, now that the invasion is over, may we partake in the spoils...pretty please?" How to avoid scandals like the ones perpetrated by Blackwater, Halliburton,...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 ah yes, Bush - the gift that keeps giving. Quite a fervor the last couple of days over the renewed/increased publishing of the 2003 exchange between Bush and French President Chirac... where Bush asked for French troops to join American soldiers in attacking Iraq as a mission from God - where Iraq had be invaded to thwart Gog and Magog, the Bible’s satanic agents of the Apocalypse. Didn't get much play when the Toronto Star published the account in May but it's now getting picked up by several U.S. mainstream newspapers/magazines:Stranger still are new accounts emerging from France describing how former president Jacques Chirac was utterly baffled by a 2003 telephone conversation in which Bush reportedly invoked fanatical Old Testament prophecy – including the Earth-ending battle with forces of evil, Gog and Magog – in his arguments to enlist France in the Coalition of the Willing."This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people's enemies before a New Age begins," Bush said to Chirac, according to Thomas Romer, a University of Lausanne theology professor who was later approached by French officials anxious to understand the biblical reference. Romer first revealed his account in a 2007 article for the university review, Allez savoir, which passed largely unnoticed. nutbag... "leader of the free world" - yeesh! That's right.....PMs Chirac and Martin came begging later for a piece of the Iraq oil services contracts. "Please Mr. Nutbag, now that the invasion is over, may we partake in the spoils...pretty please?" excellent! As you don't dispute that Bush was on a "Mission From God", apparently you also condone it... as you've said several times... "regime change" - the end that justified the Bush lunacy. Now that a heathen is leading your country (snark, snark), I can appreciate your ever increasing attempts to enshrine that Bush "legacy". It's just so damn unjust that it will take hundreds of years for people to appreciate Bush's legacy... rewriting history is not the work of idol revisionists... it's "hard work", as your hero was prone to often say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 excellent! As you don't dispute that Bush was on a "Mission From God", apparently you also condone it... as you've said several times... "regime change" - the end that justified the Bush lunacy. Now that a heathen is leading your country (snark, snark), I can appreciate your ever increasing attempts to enshrine that Bush "legacy". It's just so damn unjust that it will take hundreds of years for people to appreciate Bush's legacy... rewriting history is not the work of idol revisionists... it's "hard work", as your hero was prone to often say. Doesn't matter either way....the legacy of Bush's presidency is the continuation of power....and there is nothing you can do about it except whine. Bush told the world what he was going to do, and then promptly did it. At least France and Germany objected.....Canada just sat on the fence, preferring to kill Afghans instead with available resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Doesn't matter either way....the legacy of Bush's presidency is the continuation of power....and there is nothing you can do about it except whine. Bush told the world what he was going to do, and then promptly did it. At least France and Germany objected.....Canada just sat on the fence, preferring to kill Afghans instead with available resources. Bush's legacy will require falsification and destruction of more documents than Obama's legacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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