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This story keeps getting weirder. The Mark Standford vanished 5 days ago with out telling anyone where he was going. The Lt Governor says his last contact was from Atlanta and people saw him at the air port there. However his staff ,who can't reach him even in an emergency, says he went hiking on the Appalachian Trail, which is not in Atlanta. However over the weekend it was nude hiking weekend on the trail. His wife says she does not know where he is and was not him with his 4 sons on fathers day. It is just crazy.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/...nta_airport.php

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This one piqued my curiousity:

South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford was expected back at work Wednesday, trading a backpack and boots for a blazer and tie, after a five-day hiking trip turned into more of a fuss than he ever expected.

He cut his vacation on the Appalachian Trail short when news broke he'd been out of touch for four days, raising questions of just who was running the state.

The governor's spokesman Joel Sawyer, said Sanford wanted to get away to clear his head after the legislative session, during which he lost a key battle.

AP

Giscard d'Estaing, when he was president of France, used to do the same thing. He'd go away and nobody knew where he was although I think he left a sealed envelope with a phone number.

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This is certainly not what Republicans around the U.S. needs.

The moral rectitude of a party is completely falling apart as one prominent Republican goes down like dominoes. You can't even blame the Democrats for this since all of this is self inflicted. Catching the Governor in the airport? Holy cow!

This guy was chair of the Republican Governor's Association, a leader in the party. He was being touted a future candidate on the federal front.

If a political party is going to make hay on the sanctity of marriage, it had better have unimpeachable marriages to a man and woman for their political representatives.

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This is certainly not what Republicans around the U.S. needs.
So speaks:

J. Dobbin, Supreme Leader, Mr. Politically Correct.

Dobbin, the Moral Referee of Maple Leaf Web, Federal Liberal Ayatollah and Decider of What Is Canadian.

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So speaks:

J. Dobbin, Supreme Leader, Mr. Politically Correct.

Dobbin, the Moral Referee of Maple Leaf Web, Federal Liberal Ayatollah and Decider of What Is Canadian.

August, you really are stepping over some line.

I think you should take a deep breath and consider how one moral scandal after another doesn't help the Republican party.

If the Republicans stay focused on financial matters rather than the morality of their opponents they stand a greater chance of rising in their standing. The sad fact of every 1 in 2 marriages collapsing means that supporting the sanctity of marriage puts greater emphasis on your own marriage.

Your preference to attack me rather than the point made in the post is an indication of what is wrong in the conservative movement.

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This is certainly not what Republicans around the U.S. needs.

The moral rectitude of a party is completely falling apart as one prominent Republican goes down like dominoes. You can't even blame the Democrats for this since all of this is self inflicted. Catching the Governor in the airport? Holy cow!

What are the other dominoes? Bill Clinton?

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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I think you should take a deep breath and consider how one moral scandal after another doesn't help the Republican party.

My how quickly you forgot about John Edwards and Eliot Spitzer. Why am I not suprised. :rolleyes:

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Hell yea...only Democrats are allowed to get laid. :lol:

He was pitiful ---he used the word "increadably" at least 18 times ---and sorry --- a lot - but he sure did not look sorry...he looked a bit worn out - much like an old dog after a week away on the wrong side of the corn field.

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My how quickly you forgot about John Edwards and Eliot Spitzer. Why am I not suprised. :rolleyes:

Why am I not surprised that you forget that the Republicans routinely whacked the Democrats as being immoral. Heck, the Republicans set themselves up as the shining example of moral rectitude.

Republicans have been playing the moral card for some time now. The problem is that it means you kind of have to live by those standards or risk bring not only bringing discredit to yourself but your political movement.

So...are you angry that your party can't seem to to live up to those standards? Are you concerned that if you cry immoral about your opponent that maybe it might come back to haunt you?

Is it now wonder that Republicans are floundering. Two possible future candidates blown up and no one to blame but themselves.

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It's not so much about morality - but about loyalty>? If he is not loyal to his own - then it is doubtful he can be loyal to his public wards...that's the breach in trust..not sex - but disloyalty.

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It's not so much about morality - but about loyalty>? If he is not loyal to his own - then it is doubtful he can be loyal to his public wards...that's the breach in trust..not sex - but disloyalty.

I think that some in his state will be more concerned that he left the country and no one could contact him. I have a hard time seeing how this will not end up in his own party asking him to step down.

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I think that some in his state will be more concerned that he left the country and no one could contact him. I have a hard time seeing how this will not end up in his own party asking him to step down.

I did not know that....Yes - It's like a father or mother leaving the kids alone for an extended time - you take the kids away - take the state away from this man - of course he should give up his position as protecting patron.

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Why am I not surprised that you forget that the Republicans routinely whacked the Democrats as being immoral.

Well, when one refuses to speak out against immoral actions, then one deserves to be criticized for it.

Heck, the Republicans set themselves up as the shining example of moral rectitude.

I don't think speaking out against obvious issues that any sane person would agree is wrong, and unacceptable (unwed pregnancies, adultery, drug use, etc, etc) is setting one's self up as shining examples of moral rectitude.

Republicans have been playing the moral card for some time now. The problem is that it means you kind of have to live by those standards or risk bring not only bringing discredit to yourself but your political movement.

Nope. So 1% of Republicans don't live up to proper standards everyone should live up to, and somehow that makes anyone affiliated to the party as discredited? Nonsense.

So...are you angry that your party can't seem to to live up to those standards? Are you concerned that if you cry immoral about your opponent that maybe it might come back to haunt you?

Nope. Most Republicans, and most of the general populations live up to those standards. Unfortunately, sometimes certain individuals don't. That's wrong, and they're wrong, but it doesn't mean speaking out against adultery is wrong. I guess when you're affiliated with a political party which refuses to take stands on particular moral issues, even when those issues are broadly agreed to as being wrong, you never have to worry about living up to any standards.

Two possible future candidates blown up and no one to blame but themselves.

Yes, they have only themselves to blame. Nobody else.

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Well, when one refuses to speak out against immoral actions, then one deserves to be criticized for it.

And when one criticizes immoral actions and does it themselves they get doubly whacked.

I don't think speaking out against obvious issues that any sane person would agree is wrong, and unacceptable (unwed pregnancies, adultery, drug use, etc, etc) is setting one's self up as shining examples of moral rectitude.

Well, the polls certainly think that if you talk the talk you had better walk the walk.

Nope. So 1% of Republicans don't live up to proper standards everyone should live up to, and somehow that makes anyone affiliated to the party as discredited? Nonsense.

C'mon, the Republicans as a party take a whack when their most powerful take it on the chin. The polls show that floundering.

Nope. Most Republicans, and most of the general populations live up to those standards. Unfortunately, sometimes certain individuals don't. That's wrong, and they're wrong, but it doesn't mean speaking out against adultery is wrong. I guess when you're affiliated with a political party which refuses to take stands on particular moral issues, even when those issues are broadly agreed to as being wrong, you never have to worry about living up to any standards.

I think the Republicans should probably button it on the morality squad until they can button it elsewhere.

Yes, they have only themselves to blame. Nobody else.

And now they hurt not only themselves and their families but their party too.

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This is all anybody really needs to know about regarding this kind of topic...

The reason any conservative's failing is always major news is that it allows liberals to engage in their very favorite taunt: Hypocrisy! Hypocrisy is the only sin that really inflames them. Inasmuch as liberals have no morals, they can sit back and criticize other people for failing to meet the standards that liberals simply renounce. It's an intriguing strategy. By openly admitting to being philanderers, draft dodgers, liars, weasels and cowards, liberals avoid ever being hypocrites.

God is that ever true.

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This is all anybody really needs to know about regarding this kind of topic...

You see this is why right wing Republicans get kicked in the soft spot so often. They take the position that the other side is immoral. It is the very thing that backlashes.

And who gets most disappointed? Well, it would appear to be your own supporters.

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I don't think speaking out against obvious issues that any sane person would agree is wrong, and unacceptable (unwed pregnancies, adultery, drug use, etc, etc) is setting one's self up as shining examples of moral rectitude.

But it makes them hypocrites when, in the next breath, they do all those wrong things. I can even think of conservatives who would say that attacking politicians' children is off-limits and then do it themselves.

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"I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
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This is certainly not what Republicans around the U.S. needs.

The moral rectitude of a party is completely falling apart as one prominent Republican goes down like dominoes. You can't even blame the Democrats for this since all of this is self inflicted. Catching the Governor in the airport? Holy cow!

This guy was chair of the Republican Governor's Association, a leader in the party. He was being touted a future candidate on the federal front.

If a political party is going to make hay on the sanctity of marriage, it had better have unimpeachable marriages to a man and woman for their political representatives.

Oh please. You are hardly the one to pronounce what the Republican party needs, you are hardly in touch with Canadians let alone Americans.

This nonsense about hypocrisy whenever a Republican fails morally is rich indeed. The Dems proudly announce that they are pro-family and parade their spouses/families around during elections just as much as Republicans. The only difference is, when Dems get caught they usually don't take responsibility for their actions, Bill being the poster child for this particular strategy.

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But it makes them hypocrites when, in the next breath, they do all those wrong things. I can even think of conservatives who would say that attacking politicians' children is off-limits and then do it themselves.

Here is Associated Press's view on how it hurts the Republicans.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31523823/ns/po...-more_politics/

South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford's admission of an affair with a woman from Argentina is the latest sign that Republican governors — once thought to be President Obama's most credible adversaries — haven't quite lived up to their billing.

From Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal's cringe-inducing nationally televised response to Obama's first budget address to Texas Gov. Rick Perry's suggestion that his state might secede, GOP governors — including those said to be eyeing a potential 2012 presidential bid — haven't exactly looked like the political grown-ups many party strategists had promised.

I can remember how a few posters here trumpeted at how Sanford was safeguarding the taxpayer's money by not accepting all of the stimulus.

Now, it appears he might have used taxpayer money to have an affair.

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He flew all the way to Argentina for a little light oral sex...reminds me of Mr. Lord of the flys Black having a million dollar birthday party for his hot old wife so he could get lucky---that night...don't these men know how to control that monster between their legs?

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Yes, it seems some Dem supporters think they are the only ones who can control themselves. Really!

No, but they don't spend the rest of their time condemning other people for what they do themselves.

"I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
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No, but they don't spend the rest of their time condemning other people for what they do themselves.

Talk is cheap, Bubs. Provide some links to prove your point(as you've lectured me about recently) with several examples of disgraced Republicans who have "spent the rest of their time condemning other people for what they do themselves".

My, my, these Republicans you speak of should be easy to spot since by your comments they don't do any thing else but hold press conferences to judge and condemn others. Riiiight. :lol:

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