Pliny Posted June 3, 2009 Author Report Posted June 3, 2009 Too bad he wasn't a muslim Do you think, unlike the other situation, he will never rob again? This story has a better outcome most certainly, no one was hurt. the store owner had a gun and the robber had a bat. Makes for better odds it will turn out a harmless event. Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
KrustyKidd Posted June 3, 2009 Report Posted June 3, 2009 Heard an interview with the guy and his lawyer and the story goes............ Guy is messed up and just had surgery and can hardly move. Gets robbed and shoots one masked guy (has no idea of how old they are). Chass other guy out the store. Returns and hears screaming from gal in back room, figures one of the gals is down and wants to check but .......... can't leav potentially lethal robber able to inflict harm on floor and, can't kick or hit with a club as he is messed up so, does the next best thing (in his mind) and caps the guy a few times to be sure. Ends up one gal was screaming to freind who was in shock from being ini panic on the floor in one of the back rooms. Cops come, sure, it's murder. But with a story so they charge him and free he is waiting to tell his story. From this, I get two morals; 1. Don't rob stores. 2. If working in a store, have a really big gun so when you drll 'em, nothing is left so going back is not necessary. Quote We're Paratroopers Lieutenant. We're supposed to be surrounded - CPT Richard Winters
noahbody Posted June 3, 2009 Report Posted June 3, 2009 Guy is messed up and just had surgery and can hardly move. Chass other guy out the store. That would suggest he can move. The problem with his defense is that the store video doesn't backup his story. It shows he walked past the guy without concern. He'll likely be found guilty of 2nd degree murder but given some leniency. Quote
Pliny Posted June 4, 2009 Author Report Posted June 4, 2009 That would suggest he can move. The problem with his defense is that the store video doesn't backup his story. It shows he walked past the guy without concern. He'll likely be found guilty of 2nd degree murder but given some leniency. In Oklahoma I will be surprised if he isn't let off. If it were in one of the New England States I might think differently. Funny how justice differs based upon politics. Sotomayor may decide differently than some white guy. Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
wyly Posted June 4, 2009 Report Posted June 4, 2009 even under rules of war shooting a wounded and incapcitated person is murder... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Shady Posted June 4, 2009 Report Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) It shows he walked past the guy without concern. Are you the thought police now? You know exactly what he was thinking and feeling as he was walking by? Most people in his situation, would be feeling shock, not peace and tranquility. Edited June 4, 2009 by Shady Quote
moderateamericain Posted June 4, 2009 Report Posted June 4, 2009 A little time on the range and he could have got them both. Prolly would not even need a coup de grace afterwards either. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Posted June 4, 2009 A little time on the range and he could have got them both. Prolly would not even need a coup de grace afterwards either. Sight alignment and trigger control. One shot....one kill. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
KrustyKidd Posted June 5, 2009 Report Posted June 5, 2009 That would suggest he can move. The problem with his defense is that the store video doesn't backup his story. It shows he walked past the guy without concern. He'll likely be found guilty of 2nd degree murder but given some leniency. If I remember right he addressed that saying he was checking on the status of one of the girls and walked into one of the back rooms, didn't see them and capped the guy prior to looking in the other room(s). Also, when I said 'chased' possibly I should have said followed. Also, never seeing the vid myself or the guy, I've only hard him and he sounds a bit retarded as his speech is slow and weird if that makes a difference. Quote We're Paratroopers Lieutenant. We're supposed to be surrounded - CPT Richard Winters
Molly Posted June 5, 2009 Report Posted June 5, 2009 Next question.... since he was killed during the commission of an offense, does that mean his escaped accomplice could be charged with murder? Just curious. Quote "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" — L. Frank Baum "For Conservatives, ministerial responsibility seems to be a temporary and constantly shifting phenomenon," -- Goodale
Oleg Bach Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 Very unfortunate...the Pharmacist has paid the price - the robber has paid the price - I say it's about even and no one should be jailed...unless the Pharmacist is a crazy mother who gloats and enjoys killing - then jail him out of sheer spite and just revenge for being a jerk. Quote
jbg Posted June 11, 2009 Report Posted June 11, 2009 even under rules of war shooting a wounded and incapcitated person is murder... Yes. Tell that to the killers of Leon Klinghoffer. Or do you make an exception for that given that the killers were fighters and the victim was a Zionist Jew? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted June 11, 2009 Report Posted June 11, 2009 The real point of contention here is that the clerk went back and shot the wounded robber with the intent of ensuring he was dead even though the situation appeared to no longer be a matter of self-defense.The case in Texas where a citizen shot two robbers who had robbed his neighbours home and were now on his property ended with charges being dropped. Should charges be dropped in this case? Sometimes this kind of action can turn a place around. In many respect, Bernie Goetz (link) helped revitalize Manhattan when he stood up to the subway thugs. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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