Liberal MP Introduces Bill to Decriminalize Marijuana

benny · April 17, 2009

The first thing to consider before legalizing THC is the capacity of the most vulnerable persons in the population to stay in control.

bush_cheney2004 · April 17, 2009

....But then, perhaps you think that the US should be proud of the fact that they incarcerate more citizens than any other country on earth, both in terms of absolute numbers and in terms of inmates per capita:

Yes...it is a growth industry, coupled with lowest crime rates in years. Obviously I have zero sympathy for dopers and the pickles their cute little habit gets them into. But again, what does this have to do with decrim in Canada? Go for it...do something for once without worrying about the Big Show to the south. US states already down the decrim path don't give a damn what Canada does.

BubberMiley · April 17, 2009

Yes...it is a growth industry, coupled with lowest crime rates in years. Obviously I have zero sympathy for dopers and the pickles their cute little habit gets them into. But again, what does this have to do with decrim in Canada? Go for it...do something for once without worrying about the Big Show to the south. US states already down the decrim path don't give a damn what Canada does.

One would have to be an anonymous internet poster suffering from (perhaps drug-induced) delusions to think that people would be interested in hearing how he doesn't care about something, or that people feel they somehow need his permission to do something.

Don't worry. We in Canada don't give a damn if we have your blessing or not. :lol:

benny · April 17, 2009

Yes...it is a growth industry, coupled with lowest crime rates in years. Obviously I have zero sympathy for dopers and the pickles their cute little habit gets them into. But again, what does this have to do with decrim in Canada? Go for it...do something for once without worrying about the Big Show to the south. US states already down the decrim path don't give a damn what Canada does.

Marijuana sounds Spanish to me and America Latina is not a model.

Edited April 17, 2009 by benny

bush_cheney2004 · April 17, 2009

Marijuana sounds Spanish to me and America Latina is not a model.

Spanish for hemp is canamo.....think Mexico instead. What do they call it in Canada?

bush_cheney2004 · April 17, 2009

One would have to be an anonymous internet poster suffering from (perhaps drug-induced) delusions to think that people would be interested in hearing how he doesn't care about something, or that people feel they somehow need his permission to do something.
Don't worry. We in Canada don't give a damn if we have your blessing or not.

Gosh, I sure hope not. But it's hard to avoid the 50,000 Yankee references that some members use just to justify wiping or not wiping their asses.

benny · April 17, 2009

Spanish for hemp is canamo.....think Mexico instead. What do they call it in Canada?

mary-jane/marie-jeanne

bush_cheney2004 · April 17, 2009

mary-jane/marie-jeanne

Of course....so the Queen would approve.

benny · April 17, 2009

Of course....so the Queen would approve.

Our Queen even approves Ozzy.

normanchateau · April 17, 2009

Yes...it is a growth industry, coupled with lowest crime rates in years.

There's no denying that crime rates will decline if all criminals are in prison.

Crime rates for marijuana possession will also decline if marijuana possession is not a crime.

benny · April 17, 2009

There's no denying that crime rates will decline if all criminals are in prison.
Crime rates for marijuana possession will also decline if marijuana possession is not a crime.

Not speaking of legal lethal drug injection in US prisons.

Edited April 17, 2009 by benny

normanchateau · April 17, 2009

Go for it...do something for once without worrying about the Big Show to the south.

What, and become like Mexico?

http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/581/me...na_debate_forum

bush_cheney2004 · April 17, 2009

What, and become like Mexico?

I suppose you'll have to find another foil....may as well be Mexico. Will the real Canada please stand up?

bush_cheney2004 · April 17, 2009

There's no denying that crime rates will decline if all criminals are in prison

Funny how that works...huh?

Crime rates for marijuana possession will also decline if marijuana possession is not a crime.

But it is a crime....minor for personal use quantities....more for dopers who think they are a drug cartel. No mercy...fine the bastards and lock them up. Millions of Americans find a way to toke without inviting any legal attention....give them a call.

normanchateau · April 17, 2009

But it is a crime....

So was alcohol and prior to that, heresy.

bush_cheney2004 · April 17, 2009

So was alcohol and prior to that, heresy.

People still get arrested for alcohol possession and use.

normanchateau · April 17, 2009

People still get arrested for alcohol possession and use.

And in some countries they still get arrested for heresy.

bush_cheney2004 · April 17, 2009

And in some countries they still get arrested for heresy.

Right....so now we are back to pot smokers who want to be decrimmed. So what's the problem....just do it.

normanchateau · April 17, 2009

Right....so now we are back to pot smokers who want to be decrimmed. So what's the problem....just do it.

To do it, we need a Prime Minister who agrees with the majority of Canadians. A majority of Canadians support both decriminalization and legalization. The current Prime Minister does not. If he did, Keith Martin's proposed legislation would be brought to Parliament for discussion. Keith Martin also proposed similar decriminalization legislation in a private member's bill in 2007 but Harper prevented discussion of it.

bush_cheney2004 · April 17, 2009

To do it, we need a Prime Minister who agrees with the majority of Canadians. A majority of Canadians support both decriminalization and legalization. The current Prime Minister does not. If he did, Keith Martin's proposed legislation would be brought to Parliament for discussion. Keith Martin also proposed similar decriminalization legislation in a private member's bill in 2007 but Harper prevented discussion of it.

PM Harper has only been around for a few years...surely there are some other roadblocks. Why didn't it happen earlier? Why wait until a "NeoCon" (LOL!) is Prime Minister?

normanchateau · April 17, 2009

PM Harper has only been around for a few years...surely there are some other roadblocks. Why didn't it happen earlier?

A change in Liberal Prime Ministers prevented earlier passage of decriminalization legislation. Decriminalization legislation was introduced to Parliament under then Prime Minister Jean Chretien. Chretien anticipated the legislation would pass by the end of 2003. Here's the story:

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...?hub=TopStories

However, the more conservative Paul Martin replaced Jean Chretien in the fall of 2003 and chose not to act on the legislation. Numerous disagreements between Chretien and Martin served to fracture the Liberals.

bush_cheney2004 · April 17, 2009

....However, the more conservative Paul Martin replaced Jean Chretien in the fall of 2003 and chose not to act on the legislation. Numerous disagreements between Chretien and Martin served to fracture the Liberals.

Hmmm....as I suspected....really has nothing to do with PM Harper at all. The Grits didn't have the balls or unity to do it either.

benny · April 17, 2009

PM Harper has only been around for a few years...surely there are some other roadblocks. Why didn't it happen earlier? Why wait until a "NeoCon" (LOL!) is Prime Minister?

Given his age (50 in a few days) and generation, it is unacceptable that Harper is allowed to remain blind to the relationship between wars and the Flower Power.