Oleg Bach Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 No...you made the drug reference without any provocation. Jeeezzz Cheney - I attack without provocation and you don't have a problem with me? Am I special ....wish I was smart as you.......maybe you should get a job and assist humaity....maybe play the banjo and sing old field songs -----don't know why I blurted that out..no offence...so how are you - you old privateer pirate watchman you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Jeeezzz Cheney - I attack without provocation and you don't have a problem with me? Am I special ....wish I was smart as you.......maybe you should get a job and assist humaity....maybe play the banjo and sing old field songs -----don't know why I blurted that out..no offence...so how are you - you old privateer pirate watchman you? All is well kind sir.....please enjoy tonight's...and every night's musings from our esteemed members. The world is depending on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 All is well kind sir.....please enjoy tonight's...and every night's musings from our esteemed members. The world is depending on it. Your very courteous and a sweet bright individual...I am not prepared to be included in any musings of OUR members - It's just such a privledge that I blush at the invitation...Tonight - I am going across the street to the club and play some music with the wild kids ---- last week the former "dancer" that I supposedly rejected did everything but stick me with a knife - I feel so 1930s and so bluesy - I am almost black - cut my hair and shaved the beard - don't want no trouble ----- BB King - " I think I got to move, from my neighbourhood. The woman tell lies about me and the men ain't no good" - It's kind of wonderful that I get to have an adventure in my old age ---- To night I will try out a new tune "Queen Of The Strip" ---- and I have change the hair colour from red to black - just to be on the safe side - in case the old hooker comes in and wants to kill me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Of course, "justified". My wanting your $ million is also very well justified. By me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 ...last week the former "dancer" that I supposedly rejected did everything but stick me with a knife - I feel so 1930s and so bluesy - I am almost black - cut my hair and shaved the beard - don't want no trouble ----- BB King I think knives are making a comeback.....getting harder and harder to pack heat in a garter belt. More passion and an up-close-and-personal touch with a knife, unless you throw it expertly from across the room ! Yea...crimes of passion should include a knife and crimson puddles....just ask OJ Simpson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 I think knives are making a comeback.....getting harder and harder to pack heat in a garter belt. More passion and an up-close-and-personal touch with a knife, unless you throw it expertly from across the room ! Yea...crimes of passion should include a knife and crimson puddles....just ask OJ Simpson. Had a lot of fun last night - the son played bass and I ripped it up ---- and - the old hooker did not recognize me as I made my escape ---- you know the one that said we could sit on the porch and drink tea and grow old... Mayor Miller wants to "ban" the gun --- all we hear of these days is stabbing after stabbing after stabbing.........so where do I get a crimson poodle......ooops - I had this vision of a hot lady of the night with a red dog in her arms ---wishful thinking....anyway_ a clean bullet hole is easy to treat - There was a fine tall lady that comes to the club ---- she is a university student --- and very dashing with great character ---- she has been in therapy...Last year she stood a a street car stop and some crazed Muslim just released from the nut house tried to gut her when he came up behind her and stabbed her numerous times --- the surgery scar is huge...you can not ban monsters ---- The guy was sentence yesterday - she can not sue - because under our mental health act - When you release a crazy person prematurely - and he maims or kills --the gov is off the hook --- great system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 ...The guy was sentence yesterday - she can not sue - because under our mental health act - When you release a crazy person prematurely - and he maims or kills --the gov is off the hook --- great system. Good thing she wasn't riding a Greyhound bus! My own mother was fond of the blade.....cut my old man once over another woman....ah....such passion! I remember the days when "switchblade" or "butcher" knife got your attention. Kids even played games with knives in the dirt....like playing Jacks only with blood. Have to mention Israeli settlements....I say give 'em all knives! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Good thing she wasn't riding a Greyhound bus! My own mother was fond of the blade.....cut my old man once over another woman....ah....such passion! I remember the days when "switchblade" or "butcher" knife got your attention. Kids even played games with knives in the dirt....like playing Jacks only with blood. Have to mention Israeli settlements....I say give 'em all knives! Why bring a knife to a nuke fight? If you get there quick enough you can cut the finger off the guy pushing the button..but if it's Israel...it's probably some Jewish mother at the helm with Woody Allen trying to convince the lady that it would not be kosher to send human fat fumes into the air on a holy holiday. Getting back to passionate domestics --- My father slapped my mother once....she was no push over - a week later when he was enjoying a drink - she came up on him from behind and crashed him on the head with a flower pot full of very hard clayish soil. He bragged to his friends what a wonderful woman he had - looking like Frankenstein stitches along his hair line. Awh the good old days when things got settled quick - Pops never raised a hand to her ever again. Yah I remember tossing knifes into the dirt...and I remember blasting garbage cans across the back yard with a 12 gauge and the neighbours never complained - It was the kids playing - not once did we ever consider shooting someone or even THINKING of pointing a gun at a human being...what happened to the good old days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dub Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Again...how the destruction of Hamas is conducted is not up to me. But, I fully support their destruction.I'm not obligated to answer you by any means. That being said, my opinion on the "realities of occupation" no doubt are different from your "realities of occupation". JB Globe will have his own reply i'm sure. however, if i may, you keep mentioning hamas like they've been "a problem" for the past 60+ years of the occupation. they were recently elected as the government of the palestinians. what is your excuse for supporting the occupation for the past 60 years or your inability to criticize israel's actions for the past 60 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 (edited) however, if i may, you keep mentioning hamas like they've been "a problem" for the past 60+ years of the occupation. Hamas may be 'new' (1987) but their ideas are right out of the 1930s-1940s. Hezbollah...same deal. But seeing who their heros are...no wonder. they were recently elected as the government of the palestinians. what is your excuse for supporting the occupation for the past 60 years or your inability to criticize israel's actions for the past 60 years? I'm well aware of the history of the area. In my opinion, the Arabs bet double or nothing on three occassions and lost the bet each time. Had they won, their victory would have been the destruction of Israel. But, they lost and now they tend to pay the price for their mistakes. Should have took that deal... --------------------------------------- The National Socialist movement of Greater Germany has, since its inception, inscribed upon its flag the fight against the world Jewry. It has therefore followed with particular sympathy the struggle of the freedom-loving Arabs, especially in Palestine, against Jewish interlopers. ---Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler Edited February 10, 2009 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hamas may be 'new' (1987) but their ideas are right out of the 1930s-1940s. Hezbollah...same deal. But seeing who their heros are...no wonder.I'm well aware of the history of the area. In my opinion, the Arabs bet double or nothing on three occassions and lost the bet each time. Had they won, their victory would have been the destruction of Israel. But, they lost and now they tend to pay the price for their mistakes. Should have took that deal... --------------------------------------- The National Socialist movement of Greater Germany has, since its inception, inscribed upon its flag the fight against the world Jewry. It has therefore followed with particular sympathy the struggle of the freedom-loving Arabs, especially in Palestine, against Jewish interlopers. ---Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler The Arabs did not lose to Israel - they lost to the United States Of America! The average Arab is much like the average American - they can be emotionally manipulated to protect Israel as the common American does - and with the Arabs - they are emotionally manipulated to hate Israel and the Jew - both are diversions - The Arabs should forgive Israel and hate America - and the Americans should hate themselves for practicing deception on their own populace. No one ever looks at the source and cause of a problem - Israel is not guilty of anything - America is as is Saudi Arabia and those other jerks...As long as we continue to percieve this as a racial or religious conflict there will never be a solution - this is and always will be about money - and the domination that money inflicts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 The Arabs did not lose to Israel - they lost to the United States Of America! The Arabs lost big-time to Israel. No matter what the 'I Hate USA' crowd might think, Americans had little to nothing to do with any of the Arab-Israeli Wars other than force ceasefires. America tended to view the entire conflict as a proxy of the Cold War against the Warsaw Pact...as did the Soviets (vs NATO/SEATO). The average Arab is much like the average American - they can be emotionally manipulated to protect Israel as the common American does - and with the Arabs - they are emotionally manipulated to hate Israel and the Jew - both are diversions - The Arabs should forgive Israel and hate America - and the Americans should hate themselves for practicing deception on their own populace. I think plenty of Muslims/Arabs/Iranians already hate America. They are unlikely to stop hating Israel anytime soon as it seems to disagree with bits in their holy book (or some such dark-age thinking). No one ever looks at the source and cause of a problem - Israel is not guilty of anything - America is as is Saudi Arabia and those other jerks...As long as we continue to percieve this as a racial or religious conflict there will never be a solution - this is and always will be about money - and the domination that money inflicts. As the entire area is what could be described as 'the armpit of the world', it is hard to imagine anything other than religion (both by itself and as it relates to politics) being the cause of all this fuss. Other than the work Israelis have done terraforming the place, it's just a giant dust pit with distant religious connections to three major stupidities religions. --------------------------------------------------------- Well, I can't figure out God. ---Oral Roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 The Arabs lost big-time to Israel. No matter what the 'I Hate USA' crowd might think, Americans had little to nothing to do with any of the Arab-Israeli Wars other than force ceasefires. America tended to view the entire conflict as a proxy of the Cold War against the Warsaw Pact...as did the Soviets (vs NATO/SEATO).I think plenty of Muslims/Arabs/Iranians already hate America. They are unlikely to stop hating Israel anytime soon as it seems to disagree with bits in their holy book (or some such dark-age thinking). As the entire area is what could be described as 'the armpit of the world', it is hard to imagine anything other than religion (both by itself and as it relates to politics) being the cause of all this fuss. Other than the work Israelis have done terraforming the place, it's just a giant dust pit with distant religious connections to three major stupidities religions. --------------------------------------------------------- Well, I can't figure out God. ---Oral Roberts America is Israel...and Israel is America - do you really believe that Israel without the backing of big brother would be feared by it's cousins? Even with nukes they are but a tiny little twerp of a nation ...the Arab nations would take some hits and lose a city or two but they would overwhelm the little brat Israel -- if not for the American Empire that continues to use the Jews to irritate the Arabs and keep them hating and weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 America is Israel...and Israel is America - do you really believe that Israel without the backing of big brother would be feared by it's cousins? Even with nukes they are but a tiny little twerp of a nation ...the Arab nations would take some hits and lose a city or two but they would overwhelm the little brat Israel -- if not for the American Empire that continues to use the Jews to irritate the Arabs and keep them hating and weak. In 1973, Israel defeated the combined armored forces of Syria and Egypt who had the latest Soviet tanks/planes/guns (free of charge) with the M-50 Super Sherman which they bought from the Americans in the 1950s. Old WW2 tanks. Over 2000 Arab/Soviet tanks littered tha battlefield. The Israelis lost a fraction of that. Israel has what the Arabs/Iranians can't seem to grasp: excellent leadership and command/control skills on the battlefield. No amount of massed 'wave attacks' by Arabs/Iranians screaming "Jihad!!!" is gonna help. ---------------------------------- Republicans have nothing but bad ideas and Democrats have no ideas. ---Lewis Black Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dub Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 (edited) In 1973, Israel defeated the combined armored forces of Syria and Egypt who had the latest Soviet tanks/planes/guns (free of charge) with the M-50 Super Sherman which they bought from the Americans in the 1950s. Old WW2 tanks. Over 2000 Arab/Soviet tanks littered tha battlefield. The Israelis lost a fraction of that.Israel has what the Arabs/Iranians can't seem to grasp: excellent leadership and command/control skills on the battlefield. No amount of massed 'wave attacks' by Arabs/Iranians screaming "Jihad!!!" is gonna help. ---------------------------------- Republicans have nothing but bad ideas and Democrats have no ideas. ---Lewis Black what israel has that the arabs/iranians or many other countries don't have is this: Benefits to Israel of U.S. Aid Since 1949 (As of November 1, 1997) Foreign Aid Grants and Loans $74,157,600,000 Other U.S. Aid (12.2% of Foreign Aid) $9,047,227,200 Interest to Israel from Advanced Payments $1,650,000,000 Grand Total $84,854,827,200 Total Benefits per Israeli $14,630 ---- Cost to U.S. Taxpayers of U.S. Aid to Israel Grand Total $84,854,827,200 Interest Costs Borne by U.S. $49,936,680,000 Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers $134,791,507,200 Total Taxpayer Cost per Israeli $23,240 Edited February 10, 2009 by dub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 (edited) what israel has that the arabs/iranians or many other countries don't have is this:Benefits to Israel of U.S. Aid Since 1949 (As of November 1, 1997) Foreign Aid Grants and Loans $74,157,600,000 Other U.S. Aid (12.2% of Foreign Aid) $9,047,227,200 Interest to Israel from Advanced Payments $1,650,000,000 Grand Total $84,854,827,200 Total Benefits per Israeli $14,630 ---- Cost to U.S. Taxpayers of U.S. Aid to Israel Grand Total $84,854,827,200 Interest Costs Borne by U.S. $49,936,680,000 Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers $134,791,507,200 Total Taxpayer Cost per Israeli $23,240 The Arab's sugar daddy seems to have left them in a lurch. I suppose...in fairness 'n all...folks on the pro-Hamas side of this issue would like (either or both): 1. America to give equal billions to the Arabs. 2. America to abandon her old ally, Israel. ------------------------------------------------- Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted. ---Vladimir Lenin Edited February 10, 2009 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dub Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 The Arab's sugar daddy seems to have left them in a lurch. I suppose...in fairness 'n all...folks on the pro-Hamas side of this issue would like (either or both): my world is not as black and white as yours. 1. America to give equal billions to the Arabs.2. America to abandon her old ally, Israel. abandoning giving US taxpayer's money to israel would be the best thing US has ever done for itself in a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 my world is not as black and white as yours. lol...yeah, sure. abandoning giving US taxpayer's money to israel would be the best thing US has ever done for itself in a long time. Choice two it is. ------------------------- One and one is two, and two and two is four, and five will get you ten if you know how to work it. ---Mae West Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Globe Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Again...how the destruction of Hamas is conducted is not up to me. But, I fully support their destruction. Then, you must support the full withdrawal of the Israeli military from all Palestinian territory, and the dismantling of all settlements outside the pre-1967 borders (save for a few remaining settlements negotiated via land swaps). Because Hamas would not exist without the occupation, and without it it would quickly become irrelevant and fade in power and influence. I'm not obligated to answer you by any means. So, you respond to my post with snide-one-liners, then when asked to clarify what your position is on the issue, you answer vaguely, now you're telling me you're not obligated to answer my questions. Well, congratulations, you're right, but perhaps you could explain to me why I or anyone else should bother trying to engage with someone with your kind of behavior? I mean, you definitely want people to respond to you, otherwise you'd be talking to yourself, after all. But why should I or anyone else bother if all you ever do is make snarky one-liners and then run away from ever clearly defining your position on any given issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) what israel has that the arabs/iranians or many other countries don't have is this: I guess this means that Palestinians, Egyptians, and Jordanians are not Arabs....but they have received many American billions anyway. Edited February 11, 2009 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 ....abandoning giving US taxpayer's money to israel would be the best thing US has ever done for itself in a long time. Then clearly this is a bad idea...Americans will continue to support Israel thank-you-very-much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Then, you must support the full withdrawal of the Israeli military from all Palestinian territory, and the dismantling of all settlements outside the pre-1967 borders (save for a few remaining settlements negotiated via land swaps). Because Hamas would not exist without the occupation, and without it it would quickly become irrelevant and fade in power and influence. I don't recall saying that, at all. As for your assumptions re: Hamas...you can trust fellows like them if you like. So, you respond to my post with snide-one-liners, then when asked to clarify what your position is on the issue, you answer vaguely, now you're telling me you're not obligated to answer my questions. That's right. Well, congratulations, you're right, Told you... ...but perhaps you could explain to me why I or anyone else should bother trying to engage with someone with your kind of behavior? I mean, you definitely want people to respond to you, otherwise you'd be talking to yourself, after all. But why should I or anyone else bother if all you ever do is make snarky one-liners and then run away from ever clearly defining your position on any given issue? I really don't care if you wish to 'engage' with me or not. Last I checked, the planet still rotates. --------------------------------------------------- We sail the ocean blue, And our saucy ship's a beauty; We're sober men and true, And attentive to our duty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) As a kid, I had a record from 1960 of old Stan Freberg radio plays. One of my favorites was 'Incident At Los Varosis', a spoof on Las Vegas and the (ever growing) acts being brought into the casinos. The two clubs (the El Sodom and the Rancho Gomorrah) vie for audiences by bringing in such "acts" as the Presidntial Inaguration of JFK, Florance Chadwick swimming the English Channel, etc. I recall one of the clubs booking the Gaza Strip...very funny. Eventually...one of the clubs goes too far....... All I can think when recalling this record is that this crap in Gaza has been going on for a long, long time. You can listen to it here if you have Real Player installed. http://www.otr.net/r/freb/1.ram http://www.otr.net/?p=freb ---------------------------------- Hood: Booking a war gave the club a bad name. Why not book peace? The Boss: Because they booked it into Geneva last year and it laid an egg. Edited February 11, 2009 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Globe Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I don't recall saying that, at all. You never said otherwise either. Thank you for supporting the only plan that will reduce Hamas' long-term influence and contribute to long-term peace and stability for Israelis and Palestinians - thank you for supporting the end of the Israeli occupation of Palestine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dub Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Then clearly this is a bad idea...Americans will continue to support Israel thank-you-very-much. bad idea for who? maybe for the pro settler, anti palestinian state zionists. but it would be great for the american people who wouldn't have to pay billions a year of their money to israel and they wouldn't have to worry about people hating them for supporting israel's violation of international law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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