Is it time to de-criminalize Pot posession?

[benny]

If we in the west were more content, there would be much less drug use.

Contentment comes with a civilization that is less individualistic (i.e. West-like), more collectivistic (i.e. East-like).

[M.Dancer]

Carnation Evaporated Milk Comes From Contented Cows

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnation_(brand)

[BubberMiley]

Contentment comes with a civilization that is less individualistic (i.e. West-like), more collectivistic (i.e. East-like).

Not a chance. It comes from not being bored and being free to do what you want, so long as it doesn't hurt others.

[benny]

Not a chance. It comes from not being bored and being free to do what you want, so long as it doesn't hurt others.

Destroying one's self-will is Asian's main freedom conception.

[sharkman]

I suppose if you lose self-will, your tendency to become bored decreases.

[benny]

I suppose if you lose self-will, your tendency to become bored decreases.

In Asia, Nirvana is not grunge music.

[sharkman]

Contentment comes with a civilization that is less individualistic (i.e. West-like), more collectivistic (i.e. East-like).

Godliness with contentment is great gain.

[benny]

Godliness with contentment is great gain.

Godliness is an altered state of a busy mind.

[GostHacked]

Oh please, you post an opinion without backing it up with links and such just like the rest of us, only I don't whine about it. I'm not going to waste my time with research and links on a thread with people who have displayed a sheeple like attitude about pot, even if you say pretty please.

Come hang out with me, we can smoke a couple , chill out, maybe play some guitar hero. Or hey, we could hit the trails on the bikes. Wait .. pot smokers just got called sheeple???

[sharkman]

Godliness is an altered state of a busy mind.

Can't a peaceful mind consider God?

[benny]

Can't a peaceful mind consider God?

Primitives use drugs to receive answers from gods.

[Oleg Bach]

Primitives use drugs to receive answers from gods.

Yah you use them and move on...It's like a cave man who comes upon a hollow in the rocks where berries have fallen and fermented - One primative drinks once - enjoys himself and moves on - the other returnes to the potion repeatedly and becomes a habitualist...go head - smoke pot on a daily basis for twenty years and wake up a victim - a person who had his life stolen..trust me I know - If I had never made drugs and alcohol part of my life as a young man - things would be different for me today - my dreams would have come true - now I am twenty years behind schedual....you want that - go head - let the crimminal suppliers suck the life, brains and soul out of you..

[benny]

Yah you use them and move on...It's like a cave man who comes upon a hollow in the rocks where berries have fallen and fermented - One primative drinks once - enjoys himself and moves on - the other returnes to the potion repeatedly and becomes a habitualist...go head - smoke pot on a daily basis for twenty years and wake up a victim - a person who had his life stolen..trust me I know - If I had never made drugs and alcohol part of my life as a young man - things would be different for me today - my dreams would have come true - now I am twenty years behind schedual....you want that - go head - let the crimminal suppliers suck the life, brains and soul out of you..

Primitives were wise enough, shamans' entering in communication with gods was very extraordinary events.

[Oleg Bach]

Primitives were wise enough, shamans' entering in communication with gods was very extraordinary events.

My father was raised in the land where Shamanism originated - eastern Siberia ...he was old orthodox Christian with Shamanic over tones - gleened from his environment - I know all about it - and Yes - I have gone though periods where I practiced the art - It's a flowing with nature - understanding it - befriending it - letting it protect you - Christianity was shamanism - to a great degree - where the natural was controled and understood by the super nature - or supernatural...yes - I understand it - you pull your power from the earth - with the assistance and trust of the force that created all nature. GOD.

[benny]

My father was raised in the land where Shamanism originated - eastern Siberia

Shamanistic practices are sometimes claimed to predate all organized religions, dating back to the Paleolithic, and certainly to the Neolithic period. In November 2008, researchers announced the discovery of a 12,000-year-old site in Israel that they regard as one of the earliest known shaman burials.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamanism

[Oleg Bach]

Shamanistic practices are sometimes claimed to predate all organized religions, dating back to the Paleolithic, and certainly to the Neolithic period. In November 2008, researchers announced the discovery of a 12,000-year-old site in Israel that they regard as one of the earliest known shaman burials.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamanism

That's nice - I grew up on the Oak Ridge Moraine --- I saw the land in it's glory before developement..it was the first bit of land in North America to pop out of the fractured glacier - There was an ancient feel about the place - plants and reptiles that existed no where else on earth - and because of the angle of the land - it had a climatic microcosim.....and I would find the powerderd bones of ancient enhabitants on the hill over looking my lake - Yes - Shamanism existed every where ---- When Christ touched a small bush and made it wither - that was the shamanism -- also - he could asend and desend - which means travel back and forth in time..He was aware of quantum mechanics also...not a whole lot has changed ----------I need to go back to the land - this city is killing me....am I a Shaman? I know my father was - he was also a trickster....he could go into a body of water and come up a quarter mile away...it was a skill...sure miss the old guy..AND the use of hashish dates back to ancient Siberia.....

What is interesting about the old Greeks was that in their mytholgy - If a person wanted to haunt his enemies she would hang herself - so her feet were not touching the ground at the moment of death - Sadam Husein attempted to re-establish the movement - but he was to old to learn the trade...like Istar - he attempted to decend into the earth then rise from it - the spider hole - he did not understand the system.

[benny]

What is interesting about the old Greeks was that in their mytholgy - If a person wanted to haunt his enemies she would hang herself - so her feet were not touching the ground at the moment of death...

What is even more interesting about the Greek Mythology is that it contains both Dionysus and Apollo as gods in order not to have to debate about legalizing drugs.

[GostHacked]

Yah you use them and move on...It's like a cave man who comes upon a hollow in the rocks where berries have fallen and fermented - One primative drinks once - enjoys himself and moves on - the other returnes to the potion repeatedly and becomes a habitualist...go head - smoke pot on a daily basis for twenty years and wake up a victim - a person who had his life stolen..trust me I know - If I had never made drugs and alcohol part of my life as a young man - things would be different for me today - my dreams would have come true - now I am twenty years behind schedual....you want that - go head - let the crimminal suppliers suck the life, brains and soul out of you..

The life gets sucked out of you, because you allow it to happen. Drugs might facilitate that, but you need to be in control of yourself no matter what. I have been a smoker for about 12 years. I may be an oddball, but my life has drastically improved in the last 6 years.

I don't make myself the victim. I shall mention that my dreams are becomming reality now. Hard work, and knowing my shit helps. If pot held be back, I would not have gotten a promotion, and two raises in the last year.

[benny]

The life gets sucked out of you, because you allow it to happen. Drugs might facilitate that, but you need to be in control of yourself no matter what.

Some will fall deeper into depression reading this individualistic pep talk yet again.

[sharkman]

Primitives use drugs to receive answers from gods.

And intellectuals use brain power to discover there is an intelligent designer. So many imposters, but they wouldn't exist if there wasn't the genuine article.

[benny]

And intellectuals use brain power to discover there is an intelligent designer. So many imposters, but they wouldn't exist if there wasn't the genuine article.

What I understand is that drugs would not exist if they would not be recognized by our neuro-receptors.

[sharkman]

And throughout history, all of these gods would not exist without something up there. Our universe is too ordered to not have a design.

[benny]

And throughout history, all of these gods would not exist without something up there. Our universe is too ordered to not have a design.

It is a thread on pot!

[sharkman]

Shamanistic practices are sometimes claimed to predate all organized religions, dating back to the Paleolithic, and certainly to the Neolithic period. In November 2008, researchers announced the discovery of a 12,000-year-old site in Israel that they regard as one of the earliest known shaman burials.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamanism

I beg your pardon?

[BubberMiley]

It is a thread on pot!

Some feel if they are incapable of arguing about something they don't like, it's best to try and change the subject.

That's the whole basis of ID theory: we don't like those scientists talking about evolution, so let's try and get them to talk about something else.

I guess strawman thought that diversion might be transferable to any topic at all.

Edited May 8, 2009 by BubberMiley