Justin Trudeau

[lukin]

Is this guy really the "messiah" of the new Liberal generation. I keep hearing that he will return the Liberals to the glory days. I've seen or heard nothing from him that reveals a knowledgeable politician. Yes, he is Pierre's son. Is that reason enough for the hype? I just think there are too many Canadians looking for an Obama type Liberal candidate to rally behind without any real substance. This is part of the reason I've been turned off of the LPC in the last 10 years.

[eyeball]

I think its pretty obvious just as many non-Liberal Canadians are willing to believe in and follow their political messiahs around like they were the last great hope for civilization. That's what makes things seem so dangerous these days.

[Oleg Bach]

Is this guy really the "messiah" of the new Liberal generation. I keep hearing that he will return the Liberals to the glory days. I've seen or heard nothing from him that reveals a knowledgeable politician. Yes, he is Pierre's son. Is that reason enough for the hype? I just think there are too many Canadians looking for an Obama type Liberal candidate to rally behind without any real substance. This is part of the reason I've been turned off of the LPC in the last 10 years.

Obama turned the brains of Americans to mush, by stirring their emotions with the silver spoon that is his tongue. Canada can decide if it wants to be manipulated though emotion or logic - You can not have both - If I want to get warm and fuzzy about sweet kid Trudeau...I will go see a tear jerker movie..Do you want to be entertained or do you want to do buisness? This kid has the naive parasitc persona of an "early childhood educator" - Some can look at the big brown eyes of a puppy and melt - but can you put that puppy in an old doctors bag and toss it in the river if nessesary - liberals love puppies more than adults and children. If young Trudeau is to lead some day - and if we were attacked by some tin pot syphletic dictator - could he fight him off - or would he simply show the guy his weepy eyes and puppy dog face and hug him? Lets see what time does for his character - Is he a man or not - seeing liberals do not allow manhood - then I say no to puppy face.

[lukin]

I think its pretty obvious just as many non-Liberal Canadians are willing to believe in and follow their political messiahs around like they were the last great hope for civilization. That's what makes things seem so dangerous these days.

You nailed it eyeball. People with very little political aptitude will get behind anything that seems popular. That is what Trudeau will be banking on in 8 years. The "Time for Change" philosophy.

[Alberta_Blue]

well everyone out west will always remember for the rest of our history of what his dad did to our side of the country, and i can guarantee if he ever did make a run, it'll be mayhem out here and the conservatives will be out in full force and extremeists will be bountiful for western separation

[Alta4ever]

You nailed it eyeball. People with very little political aptitude will get behind anything that seems popular. That is what Trudeau will be banking on in 8 years. The "Time for Change" philosophy.

Without the west it won't matter. Another Generation of westerns were just given the finger by the liberal party. The Hate of anting liberal will prevent any pheonix like rise that liberals and Justin may be deluding themselves with.

[Oleg Bach]

You nailed it eyeball. People with very little political aptitude will get behind anything that seems popular. That is what Trudeau will be banking on in 8 years. The "Time for Change" philosophy.

I hear that the Trudeau boy may be the illigitmate son of KIETH RICHARDS ----do we want those genetics running the nation?

[Topaz]

Is this guy really the "messiah" of the new Liberal generation. I keep hearing that he will return the Liberals to the glory days. I've seen or heard nothing from him that reveals a knowledgeable politician. Yes, he is Pierre's son. Is that reason enough for the hype? I just think there are too many Canadians looking for an Obama type Liberal candidate to rally behind without any real substance. This is part of the reason I've been turned off of the LPC in the last 10 years.

Justin would be the first to say he not really for the leadership of the party and needs more experience in politics, unlike Harper, who should have waited for more maturity to be PM.

[BC Viking]

You nailed it eyeball. People with very little political aptitude will get behind anything that seems popular. That is what Trudeau will be banking on in 8 years. The "Time for Change" philosophy.

Like using the imaginary threat of a seperatist agenda to avoid losing what little political power you have? This seems quite popular with conservatives who indeed are bereft of any politcal aptitude. Running away and hiding behind prorogement does not = political savy, its called being a coward. Does this country really need a coward for a leader? Trudeau jr. will be our version of Obama, the sonner you accept this, the sooner you can get back to killing puppies.

[BC Viking]

Without the west it won't matter. Another Generation of westerns were just given the finger by the liberal party. The Hate of anting liberal will prevent any pheonix like rise that liberals and Justin may be deluding themselves with.

Unless of course an all together new party is formed. Lets call it the Liberal Democratic Party of Cananda, if this is what it takes to make sure the majority of Canadian voters run the country, it will happen.

[White Doors]

Like using the imaginary threat of a seperatist agenda to avoid losing what little political power you have? This seems quite popular with conservatives who indeed are bereft of any politcal aptitude. Running away and hiding behind prorogement does not = political savy, its called being a coward. Does this country really need a coward for a leader? Trudeau jr. will be our version of Obama, the sonner you accept this, the sooner you can get back to killing puppies.

Why is the Coalition allowed to use Parliamentary rules to their advantage and the Conservatives are not?

[Alta4ever]

Unless of course an all together new party is formed. Lets call it the Liberal Democratic Party of Cananda, if this is what it takes to make sure the majority of Canadian voters run the country, it will happen.

We aren't stupid you know, we will still see the same players doing the same things. We do not have short memories.

[ToadBrother]

Is this guy really the "messiah" of the new Liberal generation. I keep hearing that he will return the Liberals to the glory days. I've seen or heard nothing from him that reveals a knowledgeable politician. Yes, he is Pierre's son. Is that reason enough for the hype? I just think there are too many Canadians looking for an Obama type Liberal candidate to rally behind without any real substance. This is part of the reason I've been turned off of the LPC in the last 10 years.

I see no evidence that he's his father in any way. He seems like a nice sort of chap, but Trudeau was a fearsome political warrior who could dominate a room even if it was filled with presidents and monarchs. The younger Trudeau sort of seems like an innocuous fellow that might have a hard time getting a menu at a restaurant.

[guyser]

Another Generation of westerns were just given the finger by the liberal party.

How so?

[Jerry J. Fortin]

There is time for him to grow in political terms. How many politicians can that be said of these days?

[BC Viking]

Why is the Coalition allowed to use Parliamentary rules to their advantage and the Conservatives are not?

Forming a coallition government is not setting a prescedent. Locking the commons doors 6-7 weeks after a new government takes power is. Harper and his Reform/Alliance lackys ran out of fear for their political lives. Enjoy the paychecks for another 7 weeks Harperites, the times they are a' changin!

[White Doors]

Forming a coallition government is not setting a prescedent. Locking the commons doors 6-7 weeks after a new government takes power is. Harper and his Reform/Alliance lackys ran out of fear for their political lives. Enjoy the paychecks for another 7 weeks Harperites, the times they are a' changin!

Incorrect. The Proroguing Parliament has been done before, many times in fact, in the Westminster system.

I understand being partisan, but I cannot tolerate hypocricy.

Neither it seems, can the Canadian public.

[BC Viking]

We aren't stupid you know, we will still see the same players doing the same things. We do not have short memories.

Same players yes, working together to ensure whats best for the majority of Canadians! Short memories will ensure that the extremist right will soon be forgotten.

[Oleg Bach]

Looks like the extremist right turned out to be moderates...and the left was so extreme that if they could they would have over thrown the government with violent force...apparently the right is right and the left are blood thirsty..finally they are exposed.

[ToadBrother]

Incorrect. The Proroguing Parliament has been done before, many times in fact, in the Westminster system.

I understand being partisan, but I cannot tolerate hypocricy.

Neither it seems, can the Canadian public.

It has never been done, not in the whole British Empire or the Commonwealth, to escape a confidence vote. Please don't try to minimize this. I happen to agree with the GG's actions, but this still could set an ugly precedent. Governments as a general rule should not be allowed to sneak away from votes they figure are going to see them toppled.

[BC Viking]

Incorrect. The Proroguing Parliament has been done before, many times in fact, in the Westminster system.

I understand being partisan, but I cannot tolerate hypocricy.

Neither it seems, can the Canadian public.

Again I say, never at this early a point in the session. The only reason Harper closed the doors was to avoid a vote of non-confidence, this is setting a prescedent. Totally correct and not remotely hypocritical. Not only that, but the timing of this proroguement during possibly the worst economic crisis since the great depression, shows the country that Harper is not fit to lead. Instead of addressing the crisis he instead tried to nueter the opposition parties through 'Reformist' legislature. Perhaps this should have been part of his platform during the last election, it wasn't of course. He vowed to work with the opposition in the best interest of Canadians. He did not. He has proven himself to be self serving time and time again, and the house has rightfully lost confidence in his party's ability to govern. The fact that the opposition supported the speech from the throne, was the olive branch that if Harper et al truly wanted to lead should have been grasped. They did not. The coservatives have made their bed.

[Alta4ever]

Same players yes, working together to ensure whats best for the majority of Canadians! Short memories will ensure that the extremist right will soon be forgotten.

Ya we've seen what the left thinks is best for Canadians, they think that they know better and can override elections. They think they know better then the average election. They think its best to give seperatist control over the house of commons agenda. Thank god that Canadians have see this coup and the people invovled for what they are.

[bush_cheney2004]

.....Trudeau jr. will be our version of Obama, the sonner you accept this, the sooner you can get back to killing puppies.

Oh well...I knew it wouldn't last long. References to all things American are essential for definition in Canada.

We know Obama...and frankly....Trudeau is no Obama!

[Alta4ever]

Again I say, never at this early a point in the session. The only reason Harper closed the doors was to avoid a vote of non-confidence, this is setting a prescedent. Totally correct and not remotely hypocritical. Not only that, but the timing of this proroguement during possibly the worst economic crisis since the great depression, shows the country that Harper is not fit to lead. Instead of addressing the crisis he instead tried to nueter the opposition parties through 'Reformist' legislature. Perhaps this should have been part of his platform during the last election, it wasn't of course. He vowed to work with the opposition in the best interest of Canadians. He did not. He has proven himself to be self serving time and time again, and the house has rightfully lost confidence in his party's ability to govern. The fact that the opposition supported the speech from the throne, was the olive branch that if Harper et al truly wanted to lead should have been grasped. They did not. The coservatives have made their bed.

The GG agreed to it beacuse the coalition was tearing the country apart. Canadian unity was on the mend until this stunt was pulled. Even my father who has never been pro-seperation was telling me that I need to change my mind and that it was time for Alberta to go.

[BC Viking]

Ya we've seen what the left thinks is best for Canadians, they think that they know better and can override elections. They think they know better then the average election. They think its best to give seperatist control over the house of commons agenda. Thank god that Canadians have see this coup and the people invovled for what they are.

I'd love to respond to you sir, but I'm not sure exactly what was said. Please clarify. "Me no like Liberal, hyuk hyuk" would suffice.