Michael Hardner Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 (edited) Simple question to lifelong Liberal, NDP, BQ supporters: Do you support the coalition ? As someone who has never voted conservative, I don't support it. I think the timing for this action is terrible, that it destabilizes the government, and that the foundation is shaky at best. Against. *Note - I didn't make this a 'POLL' thread because I don't want anonymous responses here. Edited December 4, 2008 by Michael Hardner Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
cybercoma Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 (edited) first reply, Conservative supporter! just kidding. I don't support any party in Canada, other than the Rhino Party, so I absolutely oppose the coalition. Edited December 4, 2008 by cybercoma Quote
Michael Hardner Posted December 4, 2008 Author Report Posted December 4, 2008 OK... so what part of 'Liberal, NDP, BQ supporters only' wasn't clear ? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
DrGreenthumb Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 OK... so what part of 'Liberal, NDP, BQ supporters only' wasn't clear ? Support it. I am a NDP voter, who also would vote liberal if it was the best chance to defeat a Harpercon. I have voted Conservative in the past but never for Harper's goon squad. Quote
stevoh Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 I don't support the coalition because it isn't actually a coalition that creates a majority. Its a coalition between liberals and NDP, which doesn't give them the majority. An agreement with the Bloc is NOT the same as a formal coalition with the bloc. And, while I have no real problem with an NDP liberal coalition, I would have a problem with a formal coalition with the bloc, so no, I don't support the "coalition" being the ruling party. On the other hand, Harper was given a golden opportunity to forge a budget that showed forsight and was good for all Canadians. Instead, he decided to attempt to fire the killing shot into the liberal party, plainly partisan, and he deserves all of the turmoil he is in now. He should step down as leader of the conservatives. I don't know what the answer is. I don't support the coalition because it doesn't form a majority, and I wouldn't want the bloc joining it anyway. But I also believe Harper has messed up royally and shouldn't be leading either. Perhaps the only real choice is another election. *sigh* Quote Apply liberally to affected area.
Michael Hardner Posted December 4, 2008 Author Report Posted December 4, 2008 Stevoh, for my own records - you're 'usually' a Liberal, NDP, BQ supporter then ? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Alta4ever Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 I don't support the coalition because it isn't actually a coalition that creates a majority. Its a coalition between liberals and NDP, which doesn't give them the majority. An agreement with the Bloc is NOT the same as a formal coalition with the bloc. WOW I actually have found some common ground with you. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
stevoh Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 Stevoh, for my own records - you're 'usually' a Liberal, NDP, BQ supporter then ? Liberal. Quote Apply liberally to affected area.
Topaz Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 Harper is to blame for all of this happening because of the way Harper and his gang have acted in Commons and the oppositions had had enough! Harper said he couldn`t work with the opppsoition parties so he called an election which didn`t chance anything but then Harper said in the throne speech I`ll try. When the Budget update came along and took away the 1.95 from parties and take away the right to strike for the Fed. workers but did nothing for people who REALLY need help.... I don`t blame the opposition parties. What would the Cons be like without Harper as leader...I would hope civil! Quote
mjp Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 (edited) I support it only for the reason dion will make Elizabeth May part of the senate thus forcing a leadership race in the green party. Edited December 4, 2008 by mjp Quote
Smallc Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 I support it only for the reason dion will make Elizabeth May part of the senate thus forcing a leadership race in the green party. Why would she have to leave the leadership? Quote
mjp Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 Why would she have to leave the leadership? because the leader of the party has to be in the house of commons, not the senate. That would make a requirement for a new leader, unless she quit being a senator. thats how it works. Quote
M.Dancer Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 because the leader of the party has to be in the house of commons, not the senate. That would make a requirement for a new leader, unless she quit being a senator.thats how it works. I don't think that is necessarily so...I'm pretty sure there has been a leader who sat in the house of lords... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
mjp Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 I don't think that is necessarily so...I'm pretty sure there has been a leader who sat in the house of lords... not in canada, it is custom that the leader be able to be questioned in question period. and to sit in the house of commons, that requires a seat in the HoC. Quote
M.Dancer Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 not in canada, it is custom that the leader be able to be questioned in question period. and to sit in the house of commons, that requires a seat in the HoC. yet there has been many times when the leader had no seat. In this case it is moot cause the leader of the greens already has no seat. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
mjp Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 yet there has been many times when the leader had no seat.In this case it is moot cause the leader of the greens already has no seat. fact is she is a bad leader. anyone that goes out during an election and endorses another party needs to be replaced as a leader. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted December 4, 2008 Author Report Posted December 4, 2008 To circle back to the point of the thread. We're at 40% of Lib/NDP/BQ supporters AGAINST the coalition, I think. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
blueblood Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 Against. The train wreck is claiming victims, Harper's plan is working... Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Smallc Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 The train wreck is claiming victims, Harper's plan is working... I already had reservations about it because of the Bloc. Dion's TV appearance last night cemented it for me. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted December 4, 2008 Author Report Posted December 4, 2008 Small c - are you normally a lib/ndp/bq supporter ? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Smallc Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 Small c - are you normally a lib/ndp/bq supporter ? card carrying Liberal. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted December 4, 2008 Author Report Posted December 4, 2008 Wow. We seem to be at 3 lib/ndp/bq AGAINST the coalition vs 3 FOR the coalition. Only 50% of supporters here support the coalition ! This doesn't bode well for the 3-headed hydra. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Vancouver King Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 Wow.We seem to be at 3 lib/ndp/bq AGAINST the coalition vs 3 FOR the coalition. Only 50% of supporters here support the coalition ! This doesn't bode well for the 3-headed hydra. Allow me to break the tie. I am pro NDP and favor the coalition. It's chances of succeeding would increase if the Liberal Party can devise a way - any legitimate or even an illegitimate way - to ditch Stephen Dion. All considered, Dion is the only albatross against the coalition assuming power in January, '09. Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
Michael Hardner Posted December 4, 2008 Author Report Posted December 4, 2008 Ok. 4/7 in favour.... Not a good number... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
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