SHOULD Canada break up?

Argus · December 8, 2008

I think

Don't exaggerate.

Argus · December 8, 2008

In the grand scheme of things, $300 million isn't all that much and the province could certainly survive without it. Had Ontario not been doling out all the money it has to support the western provinces, it certainly would be in much better financial shape.

And if it hadn't elected and then re-elected a shallow lying phoney with the intellectual ability of a walnut who has raised taxes and spending by 50% in just four years it would likely be in better shape too.

Argus · December 8, 2008

Don't make Manitoba go with those redneck Albeta shmucks! I Love Canada. As we can all plainly see Harper is the most devisive prime minister Canada has ever had. Every time i even SAY "Harper" I get this bad taste in my mouth, Like I vomited just a little in the back of my throat.

Just smoke more weed and the taste will go away - like most of your brain did.

JerrySeinfeld · December 8, 2008

I agree
I note that Stephen Harper alienated the east, demonized quebec, his finance minister hasn't given the time of day to Ontario.

The fear card, he played over and over, during the recent "crisis", waving the seperatist boogey man was a disgrace for a pm who claims he stands up for Canada.

He clearly plays to his western audience, and pits west against east in a very disgraceful manner for a PM of the country, the entire country.

ARRRRG!

As a ration, logical person it is so frustrating and difficult to see people spew this kind of crap.

Harper demonized quebec? Are you FREAKING KIDDING ME?!

This has got to be the only country in the world where an entire province elects a party who's stated objective is to think about QUEBEC FIRST and to BREAK UP THE COUNTRY. Then when THAT party is the lynchpin that holds an entire new government in place, somehow the left wing nutjobs find a perverse way to pin it all on the "fear mongering conservatives".

You should go join Michael Moore. After all, when 3,000 innocent civilians were blown up on 9-11, it was their fault, right?

Talk about seeing the world from the inside of your own ass.

Jesus.

JerrySeinfeld · December 8, 2008

You know what folks? Out here in Alberta we could literally opt out of all of your federal programs and afford to pay for all of them ourselves. When we do that we could literally tell the feds to take their net federal debt per person and have the value of those fed programs they supply deducted from that total and we would have paid our share of the national debt.
In short Alberta doesn't need or want you folks anymore.

And here lies the REAL reason why Alberta should leave Canada.

In large part, we are an entrepreneural, pioneering self supporting people who haven't generally grown up on the government teet the way the rest of Canada has been indoctrinated to do.

Here lies the fundamental difference. See, most people in central or eastern Canada think like "Smallc" and actually think that, when they threaten that Alberta will no longer have the "Canada Pension Plan" or "Health Transfer Payments", they actually consider that to be a legitimate threat.

This is because most central and eastern Canadians are trained to think of the federal government as a giant nanny who is gonig to take care of you.

The breakdown in communication comes when they make these "threats" to take away government programs, when in reality we couldn't care less. Albertans would just look blindly at this kind of threat and say "so freaking what"? :lol:

Moonbox · December 8, 2008

Actually no not at all.

Personally I think it's hilarious when Alberta threatens to leave. It's a province entirely dependent on ONE industry and would flop without it. 25-35 years from now, when we don't really need any oil anymore, what's Alberta going to do? A landlocked province far from any meaningful economic hubs is unlikely to thrive without oil revenue to depend on.

Maybe this is why nobody but the loonies are actually serious about the idea.

Overall I agree with the idea of 'Albertanism', however, and generally accept their views on the whining leeches our social welfare net provides for. Oops...I didn't mean to say it like that. Sorry.

JerrySeinfeld · December 8, 2008

Personally I think it's hilarious when Alberta threatens to leave. It's a province entirely dependent on ONE industry and would flop without it. 25-35 years from now, when we don't really need any oil anymore, what's Alberta going to do? A landlocked province far from any meaningful economic hubs is unlikely to thrive without oil revenue to depend on.

The sad part is that this is actually a really GOOD predicament to be in when compared to QUebec, however for some reason everyone feels the need to take THEIR threats more seriously.

kuzadd · December 8, 2008

ARRRRG!
As a ration, logical person it is so frustrating and difficult to see people spew this kind of crap.

Harper demonized quebec? Are you FREAKING KIDDING ME?!

This has got to be the only country in the world where an entire province elects a party who's stated objective is to think about QUEBEC FIRST and to BREAK UP THE COUNTRY. Then when THAT party is the lynchpin that holds an entire new government in place, somehow the left wing nutjobs find a perverse way to pin it all on the "fear mongering conservatives".

You should go join Michael Moore. After all, when 3,000 innocent civilians were blown up on 9-11, it was their fault, right?

Talk about seeing the world from the inside of your own ass.

Jesus.

A logical and rational person, does not use capitals to shout in anger, nor use the term "left wing nutjobs", nor exclaim opinions other then their own as "perverse."

Or claims others are seeing the world from the inside of their own a$$ infact, they wouldn't resort to profanity either.

nope nothing rational or logical there!

oh an yes, the PM of Canada played the fear (divide and conquer) card wrt to the Bloc.

And Canada as of right this moment includes quebec

wether you like it or not.

But then given the irrationality your post indicates............

JerrySeinfeld · December 8, 2008

oh an yes, the PM of Canada played the fear (divide and conquer) card wrt to the Bloc.

The Bloc's stated objective is to divide Canada.

You're blaming the PM for citing the Bloc's stated objective?

If we're gonnaq accuse someone of wanting to "divide" as you put it - shouldn't we at least give g=creidt where credit is due?

Oleg Bach · December 8, 2008

At least he is trying....maybe you should tell the Block that they are Canadian and not French. The younger member fails to realize that old experienced weasils in politics use the emotion and the reactionism of the young to control the young...he will learn to calm down...Once he knows the system.

kuzadd · December 8, 2008

The Bloc's stated objective is to divide Canada.
You're blaming the PM for citing the Bloc's stated objective?

If we're gonnaq accuse someone of wanting to "divide" as you put it - shouldn't we at least give g=creidt where credit is due?

The PM is the PM of ALL of Canada, what part of that don't you comprehend?

blueblood · December 8, 2008

The PM is the PM of ALL of Canada, what part of that don't you comprehend?

Nice double standard, It's alright for Trudeau to divide Canada, but when Harper "does it" he's a villian. Nice brain cramp.

kuzadd · December 8, 2008

Nice double standard, It's alright for Trudeau to divide Canada, but when Harper "does it" he's a villian. Nice brain cramp.

Is he the PM at this time?

do you live in the present?

the spectre of trudeau, another boogey man, who cares except you?

:rolleyes:

pathetic

Edited December 8, 2008 by kuzadd

Oleg Bach · December 8, 2008

Tredeau is gone and will never be back - his son is not him! End Of Story...we are not Americans who Kennedify families.

JerrySeinfeld · December 8, 2008

The PM is the PM of ALL of Canada, what part of that don't you comprehend?

Yes. And part of his job as a public servant to the country is to point out the fact that the coalition was supported by a separatist party.

And that a Quebec enviro-nazi who can barely speak english - remember, that OTHER official language? - who was resoundingly rejected in a very recent eletion tried to weasel his way to the primeministership through the support and lynchpinning of a separatist party. What part of this FACT don't YOU understand?

kuzadd · December 8, 2008

Yes. And part of his job as a public servant to the country is to point out the fact that the coalition was supported by a separatist party.

and to use fear to do so, and shout treason from the mountains, cause that was productive right, as PM of the entire country of Canada???

perhaps you should go off and review what the PM said.

JerrySeinfeld · December 8, 2008

perhaps you should go off and review what the PM said.

Perhaps you should look at the polls.

If an election were held today, the conservatives would march to a majority.

Oleg Bach · December 8, 2008

Yes. And part of his job as a public servant to the country is to point out the fact that the coalition was supported by a separatist party.
And that a Quebec enviro-nazi who can barely speak english - remember, that OTHER official language? - who was resoundingly rejected in a very recent eletion tried to weasel his way to the primeministership through the support and lynchpinning of a separatist party. What part of this FACT don't YOU understand?

"Enviro-Nazi" - Is that like a school boyish man that has never cleaned a fish or swam in a swamp? I know the type - nothing to do with nature and the understanding and support of it - but ALL to do with the environment...which has nothing to do with natural law or nature - If you are talking about Dion? Perfect example of a male who does not understand that in the real environment and in real natual law you have to be an alpha male to command...so they like the artifical environs they create for themselves but hate NATURE . Nature eats Dions and uses them for fertilizer. Did I just decribe the un-natural artifical man that they refere to as environmentalist Nazis? :lol:

blueblood · December 8, 2008

Is he the PM at this time?
do you live in the present?

the spectre of trudeau, another boogey man, who cares except you?

pathetic

Score one for Team Blue! Trudeau still did that nonsense and your argument is now irrelevant.

blueblood · December 8, 2008

and to use fear to do so, and shout treason from the mountains, cause that was productive right, as PM of the entire country of Canada???
perhaps you should go off and review what the PM said.

And what about the fear being spread that Harper is a fascist and will stop at nothing to get power.

And what does the looney left do, they slap the voters in the face and will stop at nothing to get power, apparently they don't believe in taking their message to the people

Score 2 for team Blue.

kuzadd · December 8, 2008

Score one for Team Blue! Trudeau still did that nonsense and your argument is now irrelevant.

do you live in the present?

just keep moving the goal posts............ when you got nothing, what else is there?

blueblood · December 8, 2008

do you live in the present?
just keep moving the goal posts............ when you got nothing, what else is there?

Im not moving the goal posts, Trudeau was extremely divisive in his rule. That's a fact.

In your sick view there is only one set of goal posts. In mine there's two.

You sir are a hypocrite.

Score 3 for team Blue

Topaz · December 9, 2008

You know what folks? Out here in Alberta we could literally opt out of all of your federal programs and afford to pay for all of them ourselves. When we do that we could literally tell the feds to take their net federal debt per person and have the value of those fed programs they supply deducted from that total and we would have paid our share of the national debt.
In short Alberta doesn't need or want you folks anymore.

Tell me Jerry, does Harper feel the same way???

Topaz · December 9, 2008

Yes. And part of his job as a public servant to the country is to point out the fact that the coalition was supported by a separatist party.
And that a Quebec enviro-nazi who can barely speak english - remember, that OTHER official language? - who was resoundingly rejected in a very recent eletion tried to weasel his way to the primeministership through the support and lynchpinning of a separatist party. What part of this FACT don't YOU understand?

Wait a minute first of all who let them in?? They are there in the Commons and no gov't has toss them out. They may stand up for separatist but when The bloc votes, all quebecers are rewarded. Who helped the cons take down Martin....the NDP and the BLOC!! Don't get angry with the Bloc get angry with the two parties that let them stay and IF the Bloc has a RIGHT to be there, then vent your anger some where else because the Bloc will always be included with the taken down of a government no matter who is in the PMO!

BubberMiley · December 9, 2008

One small change to your plan to kick out the West: please keep Manitoba. They are used to your welfare mentality and quite comfy with it. Plus the Blue Bombers already play in the East. Ta.

Sad to see such hatred for Aboriginals, but I guess they were exterminated in Alberta along with the rats.