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We should have English language laws in Ontario - and anyone that so-much has even a trace of an accent that is not home grown - can be forced out of buisness - Language laws laws are absurd. It's like telling everyone not only how to talk but how to think and communicate...this leads to loss of the full use of the diverse collective - maybe the hicks up north should be fined for talking funny also.
My point is that Quebec should not be receiving rescue from self-inflicted wounds. If Quebec persists in being a French-only island in an English-speaking continent and country, that's fine as long as it doesn't drag down either the ROC or Quebec's English-speaking minority.
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You make it sound like English speaking Ontarians are the minority in Ontario when they in fact comprise 96% of Ontario's population.

You are wasting your time on this forum a gem like that belongs in a comedy club.

But the people who have worked to create jobs have accomplished that feat and in Ontario we speak English.

Speaking of English.... English translation please?

Ontario provincial and municipal politics have taken on the undemocratic political characteristics of a federal parliamentary democracy. English speaking Ontarians had better smarten up and demand proper democratic representation relating to major issue's like bilingual policies.

In other words, parliamentary democracy is not democratic, since it does not fit your prejudice. A communist would not have said it better.

It is only a right as long as their is sufficient taxes to pay for it.

Sound principle... that all tinpot dictotors should adopt all around the words. Think about what a Robert Mugabe, to name just one example, could do with this. "Can't have elections, we are too poor a country". "Uuversal right to education? Sorry, there is no money in the coffers". "Fair trials? Nope, it's more economical to just shoot opponents in the back of the head".

French in Ontario is not a dominant nor official language.

Who said it was dominant, or that it should be? Not me. As usual, you dpn't get it.

ONLY WHERE NUMBERS WARRANT provincially speaking.
That's exactly what's happening. Clueless again, you are.
Try demanding French services in at the majority of retail outlets in Toronto and they will look at you with a blank stare as if you are from another planet.

News to you again. Retail outlets are NOT part of government. And you are the one who wants Quebec-style language laws, the kind that would dictate what language retail outlets serve their clients in.

There was no need to proclaim English as an official language.

And there still isn't.

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I don't agree with your sentiments (...)

Of course. The Aboriginals are not Canadian enough and intelligent enough to FREELY make their own decisions, right?

Enjoy.

But you only have a limited amount of time left until Canada financially collapses supporting the abundance of solitudes and users of corrupt laws and unearned rights in this country.

I was wondering about the root cause of the U.S. economic crisis. Thanks to you, I nnow found out: the U.S. has not adopted English as its official language, and French is on the curriculum in Louisiana schools.

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unearned rights in this country.

So now, rights are something that are earned? Apart from the rights attached to citizenship (such as the right to vote). and the loss of certain rights as a result of criminal acts, you have managed something I thought impossible... to be even more wrong than usual.

From the Universal Declaration of Human Rights:

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.

I know, I know... you won't get it.

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You are wasting your time on this forum a gem like that belongs in a comedy club.

Beats your CONTINUAL personal attacks and immature insults which as you know is against forum rules.

Speaking of English.... English translation please?

It is the English speaking people of Ontario and their governments provincial and municipal that have created the atmosphere and favourable conditions for job creation in Ontario.

In other words, parliamentary democracy is not democratic, since it does not fit your prejudice. A communist would not have said it better.

Without proper MP representation especially relating to important constitutional matters parliamentary democracy is very similar to a dictatorship.

It is like Lester Pearson once said: "When he has an assured majority in the House of Commons the Canadian prime minister is the nearest thing to a dictator."

Sound principle... that all tinpot dictotors should adopt all around the words. Think about what a Robert Mugabe, to name just one example, could do with this. "Can't have elections, we are too poor a country". "Uuversal right to education? Sorry, there is no money in the coffers". "Fair trials? Nope, it's more economical to just shoot opponents in the back of the head".

Obviously countries and governments are created out of nothing in your illogical mind.

Who said it was dominant, or that it should be? Not me. As usual, you dpn't get it.

It is just that you keep forgetting.

News to you again. Retail outlets are NOT part of government.

Good thinking.

Sort of busts your little socialist bubble

And you are the one who wants Quebec-style language laws, the kind that would dictate what language retail outlets serve their clients in.

Absolutely, now that it has been proven oppressive, Quebec style language legislation has moved into Ontario.

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And YOU want the same kind of language laws in Ontario.

Yes.

To keep Quebec style language legislation out of Ontario and to insure the English linguistic atmosphere remains vibrant, to continue to attract companies and investors that in most cases are culturally friendly with themselves being users of the dominant English language.

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The Homer Simpson of MLW. Keeps on hitting his head and wonders why it hurts. Sheesh...

To keep Quebec style language legislation out of Ontario

Even though you loathe the same for Quebec.

and to insure the English linguistic atmosphere remains vibrant, to continue to attract companies and investors that in most cases are culturally friendly with themselves being users of the dominant English language.

Well, you could help this province by moving to Quebec since your english is well, 'pitoyable'

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Beats your CONTINUAL personal attacks and immature insults which as you know is against forum rules.

This comingfrom the guy who has compared me to Stalin, Hitler, Mugabe (missing anyone here?), called me a communist, a radical, etc. etc., etc., for the only reason that I know that I am as much a Canadian and an Ontarian as he is. Hi Pot, my name is kettle.

Without proper MP representation especially relating to important constitutional matters parliamentary democracy is very similar to a dictatorship.

In the REAL world, prpoer representation means someone elected in a true and democratic election, not someone who shares your opinions, or mine for that matter.

Obviously countries and governments are created out of nothing in your illogical mind.

Obviously, you don't get it... again.

Absolutely, now that it has been proven oppressive, Quebec style language legislation has moved into Ontario.

The only oppressive language legislation in Ontario is the one you propose. You still don't get it.

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In the REAL world, prpoer representation means someone elected in a true and democratic election, not someone who shares your opinions, or mine for that matter.

I don't think so.

An MP responsibility is:

Representing Constituents in Parliament

Members of parliament represent the regional and local concerns of the constituents in their ridings (also called electoral districts) in the House of Commons. Members of parliament solve problems for constituents on a wide variety of federal government matters - from checking on individual problems with federal government departments to providing information on federal government programs and policies. Members of parliament also maintain a high profile in their ridings and take part in local events and official functions there.

http://canadaonline.about.com/cs/parliament/a/rolemps.htm

We all know in the real world MP's tow the party line.

IOW- Canada is ruled by a dictatorship and the level of corruptness is dependent on who that dictator is.

Obviously, you don't get it... again.

Nope.

Your the socialist who wants a Nanny State, a French Nanny State.

The only oppressive language legislation in Ontario is the one you propose. You still don't get it.

You are twisted.

Francophones are using Quebec style language legislation (sign laws and bilingualism policies) AGAINST English speaking Ontarians in majority English Ontario to advance French ideologies and gain English speaking jobs under the guise of 'services'.

And you say I don't get it when I propose to counteract this corrupt Francophone attack with advocating The province adapt an 'official English language policy' to halt this aggressive Francophone linguistic attack.

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IOW- Canada is ruled by a dictatorship and the level of corruptness is dependent on who that dictator is.

Feel free to flee that place you call Canada anytime. I'll settle for the real one.

Your the socialist who wants a Nanny State, a French Nanny State.
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Francophones are using Quebec style language legislation (sign laws and bilingualism policies)

And all those years, I thought the aim of Quebec's langauge laws was to make that province UNILINGUAL French, not bilingual....

And you say I don't get it

And you keep proving me right.

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Let's compare things, shall we?

Quebec Language laws: aim to make the province unilingual French

You: aim to make Ontario unilingual English

Me: would like nothing better that seeing the rights of English and French-speakers respected in both provinces

Quebec language laws: limit access to government services in English

You: want no government services in French in Ontario

Me:think that government services in English and French should be widely available in both provinces

Quebec language laws: make it near impossible for municipalities to offer services in English

You: don't want Ontario municipalities to offer any service in French

Me: think it should be done where the number warrants it, and most certainly in Ottawa and Montreal

Quebec language laws: impose French as the main language on business signs

You: have made it clear you want English to be the sole language of business, including signs

Me: am no big fan a signage legislation, even though I have made it clear they don't necessarily violate freedom of expression

Quebec language laws: limit access to education in English

You: probably don't want any public education in French

Me: know it's up to each individual Canadian to decide the Canadian language in which their children will be educated

Quebec language laws: were written by people who want Quebec out of canada

You: want Quebec out of Canada

Me: know that Quebec is part of Canadian identity

Quebec language law: are trempling on people's rights as Canadian

You: deny people's rights as Canadians

Me: will not loose my rights as a Canadian

So tell me, who is the twisted one who wants to impose in Ontario the same type of law that exist in Quebec?

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Feel free to flee that place you call Canada anytime.

A Francophone's wishful thinking. Think back to the Plains of Abraham.

I'll settle for the real one.

Then feel free to move to Quebec where they think like you.

And all those years, I thought the aim of Quebec's language laws was to make that province UNILINGUAL French, not bilingual....

Francophone's use Quebec style corrupt language legislation to CREATE bilingual policies in Ontario to steal previously English speaking only jobs.

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Then feel free to move to Quebec where they think like you.

Actually the suggestion was that YOU think exactly like the sovereignists in Quebec. Perhaps if a moderate Canada is not to your liking then moving away say to someplace like Cuba were equality rights and language freedoms are denied might be better to your liking....Casto might just like another fascist in his midst.

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Let's compare things, shall we?

Quebec Language laws: aim to make the province unilingual French

You: aim to make Ontario unilingual English

Nope, only to make Ontario officially English speaking similar to 30 U.S. States: Canadian provinces retain the right to accomplish that as language falls under the jurisdiction of the provinces.

States with official English

Alabama (1990)[12]

Alaska (1998)[13]

Arizona (2006)[14]

Arkansas (1987)[15]

California (1986)[16]

Colorado (1988)[17]

Florida (1988)[18]

Georgia (1986, 1996)[citation needed]

Hawaii (1978)[19]

Idaho (2007)[20]

Illinois (1969)[21][clarification needed]

Indiana (1984)[citation needed]

Iowa (2002)[22]

Kansas (2007) [23]

Kentucky (1984)

Louisiana (1807)[a]

Massachusetts (1975)

Mississippi (1987)

Missouri (1998)

Montana (1995)

Nebraska (1920)

New Hampshire (1995)

North Carolina (1987)

North Dakota (1987)

South Carolina (1987)

South Dakota (1987)

Tennessee (1984)

Utah (2000)

Virginia (1981, 1996)

Wyoming (1996)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_United_States

Me: would like nothing better that seeing the rights of English and French-speakers respected in both provinces

Good for you.

Quebec language laws: limit access to government services in English

You: want no government services in French in Ontario.

Certain provincial government documents, regulations, ballots etc. should be made available to all language groups where numbers warrant.

But certainly not language policies designed to undermine the English language to steal jobs under the guise of services.

Quebec language laws: impose French as the main language on business signs

You: have made it clear you want English to be the sole language of business, including signs

Feel free to post whatever sign you want providing it does not interfere with the English language in areas where languages other than English might dominate a large area and does not include any type of discriminatory forced sign legislation.

Quebec language laws: limit access to education in English

You: probably don't want any public education in French

Only if French speaking taxpayers pay for it themselves.

Quebec language laws: were written by people who want Quebec out of canada

You: want Quebec out of Canada.

Only because they are linguistically insatiable and do not conform to Canadian nationalistic ideologies and expectations.

Separatist ideologies are not part of the Canadian identity.

Quebec language law: are trempling on people's rights as Canadian

You: deny people's rights as Canadians

Fabricated corrupt, discriminatory rights that make some Canadians more equal than others are rights I do not support.

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Actually the suggestion was that YOU think exactly like the sovereignists in Quebec. Perhaps if a moderate Canada is not to your liking then moving away say to someplace like Cuba were equality rights and language freedoms are denied might be better to your liking....Casto might just like another fascist in his midst.

Quebec is not part of a 'moderate Canada' and is more closely related to Castro and Cuba than any other part of the ROC.

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Quebec is not part of a 'moderate Canada' and is more closely related to Castro and Cuba than any other part of the ROC.

You are in fine company then, since you are no different in your views than sovereignists are (or Castro is) in theirs.

{message to Canadien} No he doesn't really get, does he.....but then again neither do sovereignists....

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Nope, only to make Ontario officially English speaking (...)

Yep, that's your objective... I believe that as much as I believe in flying pigs.

Certain provincial government documents, regulations, ballots etc. should be made avalable to all language groups where numbers warrant.

Where numbers warrant... It's exactly what it happens with French. You don't get it.

But certainly not language policies designed to undermine the English language
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Feel free to post whatever sign you want providing it does not interfere with the English language in areas where languages other than English might dominate a large area

I was about to remind you that YOU have advocated English being the sole language of business, but you gave me something even better (once I translated your sentence into English). What does "not inerfering with the English language" means in English? That businesses should have English on their signs? Perhaps even that English should be proeminent on the signs? Sounds a lot like Quebec language laws to me.

and does not include any type of discriminatory forced sign legislation.
A legislation that mandates the use of English and French maybe a lot of things, but discriminatory against any of these two languages it is not. You don't get it.
Only if French speaking taxpayers pay for it themselves.
Come back to me on the day I no longer have to pay for English-language schools in Ontario through my taxes.
Separatist ideologies are not part of the Canadian identity.

Your own personal ideology includes the separation of Quebec.

Fabricated corrupt, discriminatory rights that make some Canadians more equal than others are rights I do not support.

Yet you support English-speaking Canadians being more equal, and discrimination against French-speeaking Canadians. You still don't get it.

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You are in fine company then, since you are no different in your views than sovereignists are (or Castro is) in theirs.

{message to Canadien} No he doesn't really get, does he.....but then again neither do sovereignists....

I have known that about them for a long time.

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{message to Canadien} No he doesn't really get, does he.....but then again neither do sovereignists....

How nice to see the Aboriginals teaming up with the Francphones once again in a attack against English speaking Canadians.

But then again this is nothing new as this is how the Metis originated.

Recent research and DNA analysis has often shown forgotten aboriginal lineages in many people of French Canadian and Acadian descent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9tis_people_(Canada)

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