kengs333 Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 My guess is between 900,000 and 1.05 million... Quote
M.Dancer Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 My guess is between 900,000 and 1.05 million... under 700,000 Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
PoliticalCitizen Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 under 700,000 That's what it was for the 2006 elections - 665,940. This time around the number should at least double - I would say anywhere from 1 to 1.5 million votes. Quote You are what you do.
Alta4ever Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 That's what it was for the 2006 elections - 665,940.This time around the number should at least double - I would say anywhere from 1 to 1.5 million votes. Hopefully there are a lot, I love the left vote split! Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
eyeball Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 No more than last time and perhaps worse. Strategic voting is probably not going to favour them. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
PoliticalCitizen Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 Hopefully there are a lot, I love the left vote split! There are a lot of us fortunate ones who live in securely Liberal ridings. We are free to vote whomever we please without the "strategic" considerations Quote You are what you do.
PoliticalCitizen Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 No more than last time and perhaps worse. Strategic voting is probably not going to favour them. Well the popular support more than doubled. I guess we'll see soon enough, he-he Quote You are what you do.
Mr.Canada Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 I like the Green party. They have some good ideas. I'll stipulate the other quotes. 900k-1.5 mil Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
BC_chick Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 Hopefully there are a lot, I love the left vote split! Of course you do, it's the only way your party has a shot of winning. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Alta4ever Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 Of course you do, it's the only way your party has a shot of winning. It was the only way the libs got sucessive majority governments for 13 years. You had your turn, now its time for ours. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Chuck U. Farlie Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 There are a lot of us fortunate ones who live in securely Liberal ridings. We are free to vote whomever we please without the "strategic" considerations I just voted something other than Liberal in a similar riding - and I feel my vote was useless. That is why we need proportional representation... Quote I swear to drunk I'm not god. ________________________
Mr.Canada Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 (edited) I just voted something other than Liberal in a similar riding - and I feel my vote was useless. That is why we need proportional representation... The person with the most votes wins, perfect. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Also your vote is worth $2 to the party you voted for. EDIT- Alta - absolutely correct. IF these people go back to the 1997 and 2000 elections and add up the total from the Reform and PC's they would have lost that election by a long shot. Edited October 14, 2008 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Alta4ever Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 I just voted something other than Liberal in a similar riding - and I feel my vote was useless. That is why we need proportional representation... Proportional representation does nothing to further democracy without a regional proportonal elected body. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
BC_chick Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 (edited) It was the only way the libs got sucessive majority governments for 13 years. You had your turn, now its time for ours. Edited to correct the following: Under Chretien Liberals were winning majorities by 50+% of the vote. They locked in 60% in 93. http://www.sfu.ca/~aheard/elections/1867-2004.html You're comparing that to a PM who at the best of times can barely hold his support at 35%? Eeks, imagine if the left wasn't divided... Edited October 14, 2008 by BC_chick Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Alta4ever Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 Under Chretien Liberals were winning majorities by 45+% of the popular vote. They locked in over 50% once if I recall correctly.You're comparing that to a PM who at the best of times can barely hold his support at 35%? Eeks, imagine if the left wasn't divided... 1993 liberals won with 41% of the popular vote 1998 liberals won a majority with 38% 2000 liberals won a majority on 40% They never broke 41% but benefited by the split between the PC and the reform or alliance. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Alta4ever Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 Edited to correct the following:Under Chretien Liberals were winning majorities by 50+% of the vote. They locked in 60% in 93. http://www.sfu.ca/~aheard/elections/1867-2004.html You're comparing that to a PM who at the best of times can barely hold his support at 35%? Eeks, imagine if the left wasn't divided... you were reading seat percentages not the popular vote Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
capricorn Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 Eeks, imagine if the left wasn't divided... You're absolutely right bc chick. The best thing the left could do for the country is merge into one party. The problem is the Liberal Party still thinks it is the natural governing party and will do anything to keep the Liberal brand alive. The NDP also has a huge ego. Although I support the Conservatives, I desperately want a strong opposition that will keep the Conservatives in check and keep them on their toes. The games played in the House of Commons just doesn't cut it. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
mjp Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 I'm in a riding where it dont matter if you vote ndp, liberal or green.. so I voted green anyways... Quote
BC_chick Posted October 15, 2008 Report Posted October 15, 2008 you were reading seat percentages not the popular vote Yes, I think my correction in my post reflected that. In any case, even when combining the divided right at that time, you were not anywhere near where the combined divided left today. Face it, the right has never recovered from the fall of the Progressives. That's because they knew the difference between fiscal conservatism and social conservatism. You put someone like Peter MacKay as your leader (a progressive conservative) and you'll break the 40+% support in no time at all. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
M.Dancer Posted October 15, 2008 Report Posted October 15, 2008 My guess is between 900,000 and 1.05 million... Looks like the greens have not come close to doubling their vote..... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
HistoryBuff44 Posted October 15, 2008 Report Posted October 15, 2008 Looks like the greens have not come close to doubling their vote..... yep, looks like they got about half of what people were figuring they'd get, so far 0 seats Quote An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last -- WSC
M.Dancer Posted October 15, 2008 Report Posted October 15, 2008 Greens will come in around 5.5%....or less. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
cybercoma Posted October 15, 2008 Report Posted October 15, 2008 If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Except that first-past-the-post distorts the results. Consider the BQ will get somewhere in the neighbourhood of 7.5% of the vote and they'll have around 50 seats or 16% of the seats in the house. The Green Party will get somewhere around 6.5% of the vote and they'll end up with ZERO seats or ZERO % of the seats in the house. That's an issue. Also, the Conservative Party will end up with something around 36% of the vote and nearly 47% of the seats. The system does not reflect the votes. Even within a riding, a candidate can win without having the support of the majority of the riding. When you think about it, if voter turnout is around 58% as they're projecting, the governing party only garnered 36% of 58% of the voters. That means of all eligible voters only 21% voted for the governing party. When less than 1/4 of eligible voters choose the prime minister there's something wrong. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 15, 2008 Report Posted October 15, 2008 21% of eligible voters voted for the CPC and they have 47% of the seats in the house. If that doesn't tell you there's a problem with fptp, then nothing does. Quote
Smallc Posted October 15, 2008 Report Posted October 15, 2008 Actually, the Bloc will get just under 10% of the vote. Quote
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